snail problem

[Sky-Catcher]

hi,

i have a pond that is infested with pond snails - so much so that their dead
shells block my filter pumps & filters. Is there anything anyone here can
recommend for ridding my pond of these things. I have no fish and minimal
planting.

tia sky

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IF you do not have soft water, that is you have sufficient hardness and your pH is
above 7, then you may want to try copper sulfate... it comes in treatment for ponds.
oh hell didnt see you didnt have fish... blast it with copper sulfate, get it cheap
somewhere. will kill the little buggers. I hate snails. Ingrid

"Sky-Catcher" <bobhope@nohope> wrote:

>hi,
>
>i have a pond that is infested with pond snails - so much so that their dead
>shells block my filter pumps & filters. Is there anything anyone here can
>recommend for ridding my pond of these things. I have no fish and minimal
>planting.
>
>tia sky
>



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[Sky-Catcher]

what happens if my pH is low and i have soft water?

also, is the copper sulfate ok for the lillies & plants?

tia

sky (who also hates snails!)


> wrote in message
...
> IF you do not have soft water, that is you have sufficient hardness and
> your pH is
> above 7, then you may want to try copper sulfate... it comes in treatment
> for ponds.
> oh hell didnt see you didnt have fish... blast it with copper sulfate, get
> it cheap
> somewhere. will kill the little buggers. I hate snails. Ingrid
>
> "Sky-Catcher" <bobhope@nohope> wrote:
>
>>hi,
>>
>>i have a pond that is infested with pond snails - so much so that their
>>dead
>>shells block my filter pumps & filters. Is there anything anyone here can
>>recommend for ridding my pond of these things. I have no fish and minimal
>>planting.
>>
>>tia sky
>>
>
>
>
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[Pondmeister]

Nothing, won;t harm a thing,


On Fri, 18 May 2007 16:55:20 +0100, "Sky-Catcher" <bobhope@nohope>
wrote:

<<>>what happens if my pH is low and i have soft water?
<<>>
<<>>also, is the copper sulfate ok for the lillies & plants?
<<>>
<<>>tia
<<>>
<<>>sky (who also hates snails!)
<<>>
<<>>
> wrote in message
...
<<>>> IF you do not have soft water, that is you have sufficient hardness and
<<>>> your pH is
<<>>> above 7, then you may want to try copper sulfate... it comes in treatment
<<>>> for ponds.
<<>>> oh hell didnt see you didnt have fish... blast it with copper sulfate, get
<<>>> it cheap
<<>>> somewhere. will kill the little buggers. I hate snails. Ingrid
<<>>>
<<>>> "Sky-Catcher" <bobhope@nohope> wrote:
<<>>>
<<>>>>hi,
<<>>>>
<<>>>>i have a pond that is infested with pond snails - so much so that their
<<>>>>dead
<<>>>>shells block my filter pumps & filters. Is there anything anyone here can
<<>>>>recommend for ridding my pond of these things. I have no fish and minimal
<<>>>>planting.
<<>>>>
<<>>>>tia sky
<<>>>>
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>>
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<<>>> website.
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<<>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<<>>> Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan
<<>>



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dont use more than the recommended dose (get pond type (do a google)
I do know that copper sulfate is recommended for treating fungus on orchids.
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/Publications/PM1352J.pdf
says copper sulfate is a poor control for lilies, but might damage algae. I dont
know what concentration they are talking about, but it might be higher than needed
for snails anyway. Ingrid

"Sky-Catcher" <bobhope@nohope> wrote:
>what happens if my pH is low and i have soft water?
>also, is the copper sulfate ok for the lillies & plants?



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in soft low pH water copper sulfate is more toxic to fish. at high pH the copper
locks up with calcium. cs is not recommended to use it with high pond temps either.
they "think" the killing of algae and oxygen depletion is one reason for fish death.
not sure about that but it is a .edu site so more dependable. Ingrid

"Sky-Catcher" <bobhope@nohope> wrote:
>what happens if my pH is low and i have soft water?



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[Pondmeister]

Like I said moron , get a clue Solo, there is no fish to worry about
therefore there is nothtng else to worry about and it certainly is not
goung to hurt the plants......your about a dumbass bitch
Ingrid.........

On Sat, 19 May 2007 11:18:15 GMT, wrote:

<<>>in soft low pH water copper sulfate is more toxic to fish. at high pH the copper
<<>>locks up with calcium. cs is not recommended to use it with high pond temps either.
<<>>they "think" the killing of algae and oxygen depletion is one reason for fish death.
<<>>not sure about that but it is a .edu site so more dependable. Ingrid
<<>>
<<>>"Sky-Catcher" <bobhope@nohope> wrote:
<<>>>what happens if my pH is low and i have soft water?
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>
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<<>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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<<>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<<>>Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan



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[Sky-Catcher]

OK - I can get 500g of copper sulphate on ebay for £6.00 - Anyone know how
much I should add per 1000 litres of pond water to destroy the snails
(without over doing it and cost me too much!).

Thanks for ALL of your help to date....

Sky
"Pondmeister" > wrote in message
...
> Like I said moron , get a clue Solo, there is no fish to worry about
> therefore there is nothtng else to worry about and it certainly is not
> goung to hurt the plants......your about a dumbass bitch
> Ingrid.........
>
> On Sat, 19 May 2007 11:18:15 GMT, wrote:
>
> <<>>in soft low pH water copper sulfate is more toxic to fish. at high pH
> the copper
> <<>>locks up with calcium. cs is not recommended to use it with high pond
> temps either.
> <<>>they "think" the killing of algae and oxygen depletion is one reason
> for fish death.
> <<>>not sure about that but it is a .edu site so more dependable.
> Ingrid
> <<>>
> <<>>"Sky-Catcher" <bobhope@nohope> wrote:
> <<>>>what happens if my pH is low and i have soft water?
> <<>>
> <<>>
> <<>>
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> <<>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> <<>>Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan
>
>
>
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http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/BODY_FA008
" A good rule of thumb is to
divide the total alkalinity (in parts per million) by
100 to get the concentration of copper sulfate to use
in parts per million (1 ppm = 1 milligram/liter) "

in other words, as the hardness increases, the concentration should increase. since
you got soft water, you dont need as much.

http://www.ams.usda.gov/NOP/NationalList/TAPReviews/cprsulfte.pdf
Ingrid


"Sky-Catcher" <bobhope@nohope> wrote:

>OK - I can get 500g of copper sulphate on ebay for £6.00 - Anyone know how
>much I should add per 1000 litres of pond water to destroy the snails
>(without over doing it and cost me too much!).
>
>Thanks for ALL of your help to date....
>



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[Pondmeister]

More hypothitical buyll**** form a wanna be fish biologist who only
came as close to a fish biologist as licking joans carpet for
her...Now she thinks she is goddess of Goldies and ponds......NOT! HOw
cum when carol did the rule of thumb bit you all condemed her for it
not being scientific and it wa prone to be dangerious, yet yu and the
other hipocrites from RPM do it all the tme and never geive it a
second thought. HIpocrits is what the mods and patrons of RPM are,
itrs there way or no way, and carol IMHO outdoes you all in what works
and works best at least expense and cost to average owner..book or no
book.......




On Sun, 20 May 2007 12:04:38 GMT, wrote:

<<>>http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/BODY_FA008
<<>>" A good rule of thumb is to
<<>>divide the total alkalinity (in parts per million) by
<<>>100 to get the concentration of copper sulfate to use
<<>>in parts per million (1 ppm = 1 milligram/liter) "
<<>>
<<>>in other words, as the hardness increases, the concentration should increase. since
<<>>you got soft water, you dont need as much.
<<>>
<<>>http://www.ams.usda.gov/NOP/NationalList/TAPReviews/cprsulfte.pdf
<<>>Ingrid
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>"Sky-Catcher" <bobhope@nohope> wrote:
<<>>
<<>>>OK - I can get 500g of copper sulphate on ebay for £6.00 - Anyone know how
<<>>>much I should add per 1000 litres of pond water to destroy the snails
<<>>>(without over doing it and cost me too much!).
<<>>>
<<>>>Thanks for ALL of your help to date....
<<>>>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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<<>>Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
<<>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<<>>I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website.
<<>>I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site.
<<>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<<>>Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan



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