Re: New Tank Setup - comments and questions

[Aroon]

On May 23, 7:44 am, Wayne Sallee > wrote:
> You might see a duplicate of this post. I'm trying
> out TeraNews.com. So far I'm not impressed. The
> other post has not shown yet, so I'm sending this
> one through Earthlink.
> **
>
> Yes, set up the protein skimmer from the beginning.
> The wet dry filter will be helpful in curing the
> live rock, but after you have established live rock,
> and live sand, start taking the bioballs out a
> little at a time so that the live rock and live sand
> will do a better job of denitrifying.
>
> You will need to hold off on the anemones, and you
> will eventualy need to get hight intensity lighing
> for the anemones. So right now you can window-shop
> for lighting.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
> Aroon wrote on 5/23/2007 12:52 AM:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I am in the process of setting up my first sal****er tank (55g), and
> > have a few questions. I have included my basic plans as well, in-case
> > anyone has any comments that could improve my first tank setup.
>
> > I have read many posts on various boards that discuss new tank setups
> > and include protein skimmers. Some say not to start the skimmer till
> > cycling of the tank is complete, but some say go with it.
>
> > I have purchased a coralife protein skimmer (needle-wheel), and a
> > proclear 75 wet/dry filter (sump-style).
> > I am planning on hanging the skimmer on the side of the wet/dry filter
> > that will placed under the tank stand.
>
> > The current state of the tank is that I have added sal****er to the
> > top which I mixed in the tank itself over a period of 3 days.. The
> > temp is set to 80degC. Wet/dry filter is running. I am planning on
> > purchasing 45lbs of fiji premium LR online any day now.
>
> > Is this too much rock to start with considering I have no experience?
>
> > Once I place the semi-cured live rock in the tank, should I start the
> > skimmer?
>
> > How many powerheads do I need in a 55G tank?
> > My guess is that the return pump from the wet/dry will produce decent
> > water motion for the kind of animals I would like (below). But, just
> > in-case I have also ordered a powersweep 228 powerhead. But, its not
> > in the tank yet.
>
> > My goal is a fish and invert tank. I am planning a hardy damsel to
> > start, then an ocellis clownfish, and then a six-line wrasse. other
> > than a snail or two to control algae, i was going to wait 6 months
> > before any inverts.
>
> > Are any anemones ok to add to this sort of tank b4 6 months?
>
> > Thanks for any comments on these plans, and answers my questions.
>
> > Cheers.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

thanks for the responses, Wayne and Kurt.
I will definitely start the skimmer when i get the LR.
and heed your other comments.
onwards and upwards!
cheers, Aroon

[Wayne Sallee]

Your welcome.

Your welcome.

Your welcome.

Your welcome.

I could not resist :-)

Also it's best to put base rock on the glass, and
put the calcium based sand around the base rock, and
then stack the live rock on top of the base rock. If
you just pile up the live rock on top of the sand,
then when things start to dig in the sand, you will
have an avalanche.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

Aroon wrote on 5/23/2007 11:48 AM:
> On May 23, 7:44 am, Wayne Sallee > wrote:
>> You might see a duplicate of this post. I'm trying
>> out TeraNews.com. So far I'm not impressed. The
>> other post has not shown yet, so I'm sending this
>> one through Earthlink.
>> **
>>
>> Yes, set up the protein skimmer from the beginning.
>> The wet dry filter will be helpful in curing the
>> live rock, but after you have established live rock,
>> and live sand, start taking the bioballs out a
>> little at a time so that the live rock and live sand
>> will do a better job of denitrifying.
>>
>> You will need to hold off on the anemones, and you
>> will eventualy need to get hight intensity lighing
>> for the anemones. So right now you can window-shop
>> for lighting.
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>>
>> Aroon wrote on 5/23/2007 12:52 AM:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I am in the process of setting up my first sal****er tank (55g), and
>>> have a few questions. I have included my basic plans as well, in-case
>>> anyone has any comments that could improve my first tank setup.
>>> I have read many posts on various boards that discuss new tank setups
>>> and include protein skimmers. Some say not to start the skimmer till
>>> cycling of the tank is complete, but some say go with it.
>>> I have purchased a coralife protein skimmer (needle-wheel), and a
>>> proclear 75 wet/dry filter (sump-style).
>>> I am planning on hanging the skimmer on the side of the wet/dry filter
>>> that will placed under the tank stand.
>>> The current state of the tank is that I have added sal****er to the
>>> top which I mixed in the tank itself over a period of 3 days.. The
>>> temp is set to 80degC. Wet/dry filter is running. I am planning on
>>> purchasing 45lbs of fiji premium LR online any day now.
>>> Is this too much rock to start with considering I have no experience?
>>> Once I place the semi-cured live rock in the tank, should I start the
>>> skimmer?
>>> How many powerheads do I need in a 55G tank?
>>> My guess is that the return pump from the wet/dry will produce decent
>>> water motion for the kind of animals I would like (below). But, just
>>> in-case I have also ordered a powersweep 228 powerhead. But, its not
>>> in the tank yet.
>>> My goal is a fish and invert tank. I am planning a hardy damsel to
>>> start, then an ocellis clownfish, and then a six-line wrasse. other
>>> than a snail or two to control algae, i was going to wait 6 months
>>> before any inverts.
>>> Are any anemones ok to add to this sort of tank b4 6 months?
>>> Thanks for any comments on these plans, and answers my questions.
>>> Cheers.- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> thanks for the responses, Wayne and Kurt.
> I will definitely start the skimmer when i get the LR.
> and heed your other comments.
> onwards and upwards!
> cheers, Aroon
>

[KurtG]

Wayne Sallee wrote:
> Also it's best to put base rock on the glass, and put the calcium based
> sand around the base rock, and then stack the live rock on top of the
> base rock. If you just pile up the live rock on top of the sand, then
> when things start to dig in the sand, you will have an avalanche.

My Lawnmower Blenny is a voracious digger. He also filled up a cave
with sand to build his own personal space. Everything but a mail box.

He does a little dance in front of the glass every night. My kids call
it his break dance because he flips around. They are working on queuing
up a song on the computer, so he can do it music.

Ugly thing, but they definitely grow on you.

btw, welcome to the hobby. Hopefully, you've been warned that it is
addicting.

--Kurt (currently acclimating a purple xenia)

[Pondmeister]

Quit your freaking lying you moron. All but a mailbox, yea ****ing
right ...so I assume he also has a micro wave oven and a TV and Washer
and dryer to..your a dumbass Kurt! That dance he is doing is simply
his way of shaking his dick at his moron keeper.

On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:22:23 -0400, KurtG
> wrote:

<<>>Wayne Sallee wrote:
<<>>> Also it's best to put base rock on the glass, and put the calcium based
<<>>> sand around the base rock, and then stack the live rock on top of the
<<>>> base rock. If you just pile up the live rock on top of the sand, then
<<>>> when things start to dig in the sand, you will have an avalanche.
<<>>
<<>>My Lawnmower Blenny is a voracious digger. He also filled up a cave
<<>>with sand to build his own personal space. Everything but a mail box.
<<>>
<<>>He does a little dance in front of the glass every night. My kids call
<<>>it his break dance because he flips around. They are working on queuing
<<>>up a song on the computer, so he can do it music.
<<>>
<<>>Ugly thing, but they definitely grow on you.
<<>>
<<>>btw, welcome to the hobby. Hopefully, you've been warned that it is
<<>>addicting.
<<>>
<<>>--Kurt (currently acclimating a purple xenia)



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[kryppy@.]

On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:44:09 -0500, Pondmeister
> wrote:

>Quit your freaking lying you moron. All but a mailbox, yea ****ing
>right ...so I assume he also has a micro wave oven and a TV and Washer
>and dryer to..your a dumbass Kurt! That dance he is doing is simply
>his way of shaking his dick at his moron keeper.


LMFAO. I love usenet!!!!!!!

[Wayne Sallee]

Ignore the trolls or you will get plonked along with
them. Put the trolls in your kill file.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


kryppy@. wrote on 5/26/2007 11:26 PM:
I love usenet!!!!!!!

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[kryppy@.]

On Sun, 27 May 2007 07:56:45 -0500, Wayne Sallee
> wrote:

>Ignore the trolls or you will get plonked along with
>them. Put the trolls in your kill file.


Sadly, I could care less.

I never use filters. Even a total troll has something useful to
contribute once in a blue moon, and when everyone has an idiot like
this blocked, they are free to spread unchecked BS to newbies.

I would probably filter me right now, because I intend to give this
guy crap from one end of the usenet to the other.

Perhaps if I have something to contribute I will just nymshift, like I
plan to do about 3000 times in all the pond newsgroups tonight. ;)

[Wayne Sallee]

Plonk

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


kryppy@. wrote on 5/27/2007 3:35 PM:
> On Sun, 27 May 2007 07:56:45 -0500, Wayne Sallee
> > wrote:
>
>> Ignore the trolls or you will get plonked along with
>> them. Put the trolls in your kill file.
>
>
> Sadly, I could care less.
>
> I never use filters. Even a total troll has something useful to
> contribute once in a blue moon, and when everyone has an idiot like
> this blocked, they are free to spread unchecked BS to newbies.
>
> I would probably filter me right now, because I intend to give this
> guy crap from one end of the usenet to the other.
>
> Perhaps if I have something to contribute I will just nymshift, like I
> plan to do about 3000 times in all the pond newsgroups tonight. ;)
>
>

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[Pondmeister]

uh huh, Wayne Salle doing what Wayne does best!



On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:37:47 -0400, Wayne Sallee
> wrote:

<<>>Plonk
<<>>
<<>>Wayne Sallee
<<>>Wayne's Pets

<<>>
<<>>kryppy@. wrote on 5/27/2007 3:35 PM:
<<>>> On Sun, 27 May 2007 07:56:45 -0500, Wayne Sallee
<<>>> > wrote:
<<>>>
<<>>>> Ignore the trolls or you will get plonked along with
<<>>>> them. Put the trolls in your kill file.
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> Sadly, I could care less.
<<>>>
<<>>> I never use filters. Even a total troll has something useful to
<<>>> contribute once in a blue moon, and when everyone has an idiot like
<<>>> this blocked, they are free to spread unchecked BS to newbies.
<<>>>
<<>>> I would probably filter me right now, because I intend to give this
<<>>> guy crap from one end of the usenet to the other.
<<>>>
<<>>> Perhaps if I have something to contribute I will just nymshift, like I
<<>>> plan to do about 3000 times in all the pond newsgroups tonight. ;)
<<>>>
<<>>>



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[kryppy@.]

On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:57:20 -0500, Pondmeister
> wrote:

>
>
>uh huh, Wayne Salle doing what Wayne does best!

What is that?

>On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:37:47 -0400, Wayne Sallee
> wrote:
>
><<>>Plonk
><<>>
><<>>Wayne Sallee
><<>>Wayne's Pets

><<>>
><<>>kryppy@. wrote on 5/27/2007 3:35 PM:
><<>>> On Sun, 27 May 2007 07:56:45 -0500, Wayne Sallee
><<>>> > wrote:
><<>>>
><<>>>> Ignore the trolls or you will get plonked along with
><<>>>> them. Put the trolls in your kill file.
><<>>>
><<>>>
><<>>> Sadly, I could care less.
><<>>>
><<>>> I never use filters. Even a total troll has something useful to
><<>>> contribute once in a blue moon, and when everyone has an idiot like
><<>>> this blocked, they are free to spread unchecked BS to newbies.
><<>>>
><<>>> I would probably filter me right now, because I intend to give this
><<>>> guy crap from one end of the usenet to the other.
><<>>>
><<>>> Perhaps if I have something to contribute I will just nymshift, like I
><<>>> plan to do about 3000 times in all the pond newsgroups tonight. ;)
><<>>>
><<>>>
>
>
>
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>I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[daneyalhardy]

Best to rock the glass, calcium-based sand around the base of the rock, Live rock and then stack the top of the bedrock. If you just piled on top of the live rock sand then when things start to dig in the sand, you will have an avalanche.