sunset gourami problem

[Denise]

One of my sunset dwarf gouramis seems to be ill. It sits on the bottom of
the tank and hides between plants and a rock. It hasn't come out to feed
since the day before yesterday. It looks OK - I've looked at it thru a
magnifying glass and can't see any obvious problems. All other tank mates,
including the other sunset gourami, are fine. Both gouramis are males and
I've had them about a month. I've had the tank up and running well for 4
months. I do regular water changes of 20-30% and I've added about 2
tablespoons of aquarium salt to the tank.
Here are the tank particulars:
29g tank with lots of plants
ammonia=0
nitrites=0
nitrates=40 or less
pH is between 7.2 and 7.8
KH=80
GH=150-300
temp=80 deg F
3 female platys
5 peppered cory cats
8 male guppies
2 male dwarf sunset gouramis

Any advice is welcome because I don't know what to do.
Denise

[RedForeman ©®]

|| One of my sunset dwarf gouramis seems to be ill. It sits on the
|| bottom of the tank and hides between plants and a rock. It hasn't
|| come out to feed since the day before yesterday. It looks OK - I've
|| looked at it thru a magnifying glass and can't see any obvious
|| problems. All other tank mates, including the other sunset gourami,
|| are fine. Both gouramis are males and I've had them about a month.
|| Denise

I've heard that gouramis don't do well together, especially of their own
kind... that being said, I could only have male/female pairs in my tanks, no
other male would be accepted, or female for that matter...

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is that better??

[Denise]

The gourami died this evening but I still don't know why. the body looked OK
and the gills were OK as far as I could tell. Would bullying by the other
gourami cause this-even though I never saw evidence of this?
Denise
"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> || One of my sunset dwarf gouramis seems to be ill. It sits on the
> || bottom of the tank and hides between plants and a rock. It hasn't
> || come out to feed since the day before yesterday. It looks OK - I've
> || looked at it thru a magnifying glass and can't see any obvious
> || problems. All other tank mates, including the other sunset gourami,
> || are fine. Both gouramis are males and I've had them about a month.
> || Denise
>
> I've heard that gouramis don't do well together, especially of their own
> kind... that being said, I could only have male/female pairs in my tanks,
no
> other male would be accepted, or female for that matter...
>
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> is that better??
>
>

[luminos]

"Denise" > wrote in message
...
> The gourami died this evening but I still don't know why. the body looked
OK
> and the gills were OK as far as I could tell. Would bullying by the other
> gourami cause this-even though I never saw evidence of this?

Absolutely possible. I had two goramis and one did the other in...stress
and being kept from food. No fight marks or other problems were apparent.

[RedForeman ©®]

Yep... stress is what did mine in too... was never caught, but was
constantly chased, unless it was hiding...

sorry...

|| "Denise" > wrote in message
|| ...
||| The gourami died this evening but I still don't know why. the body
||| looked OK and the gills were OK as far as I could tell. Would
||| bullying by the other gourami cause this-even though I never saw
||| evidence of this?
||
|| Absolutely possible. I had two goramis and one did the other
|| in...stress and being kept from food. No fight marks or other
|| problems were apparent.

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is that better??

[Denise]

Live and learn I guess. Thanks for the replies.
Denise
"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> Yep... stress is what did mine in too... was never caught, but was
> constantly chased, unless it was hiding...
>
> sorry...
>
> || "Denise" > wrote in message
> || ...
> ||| The gourami died this evening but I still don't know why. the body
> ||| looked OK and the gills were OK as far as I could tell. Would
> ||| bullying by the other gourami cause this-even though I never saw
> ||| evidence of this?
> ||
> || Absolutely possible. I had two goramis and one did the other
> || in...stress and being kept from food. No fight marks or other
> || problems were apparent.
>
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> | for any questions you may have....
> is that better??
>
>