did algaefix kill my frogs?

[Mary E. Hill]

I just treated my tank on Sunday with AlgaeFix - came in to work this
morning to find both frogs and the snail dead with a white fuzzy coating all
over them. Pretty upset about it! They were fine yesterday (or so it
looked).

Was it the chemical or what?? Had to be, huh? How else can you get rid of
algae besides chemicals? It's a 5 gallon tank w/light & filter and does get
some sunlight.

Any advise would be so welcome as I'd like to get it going again...

Mary

[RedForeman ©®]

|| I just treated my tank on Sunday with AlgaeFix - came in to work this
|| morning to find both frogs and the snail dead with a white fuzzy
|| coating all over them. Pretty upset about it! They were fine
|| yesterday (or so it looked).
||
|| Was it the chemical or what?? Had to be, huh? How else can you get
|| rid of algae besides chemicals? It's a 5 gallon tank w/light &
|| filter and does get some sunlight.
||
|| Any advise would be so welcome as I'd like to get it going again...
||
|| Mary

most if not all algae fix chemicals have copper in 'em and that surely would
have done your snail in... the frog, might have suffered from it too....

so sorry... #1 reason never to use chemicals.... IMO, the #1 reason
fish/snails/frogs die....

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[Mary E. Hill]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> || I just treated my tank on Sunday with AlgaeFix - came in to work this
> || morning to find both frogs and the snail dead with a white fuzzy
> || coating all over them. Pretty upset about it! They were fine
> || yesterday (or so it looked).
> ||
> || Was it the chemical or what?? Had to be, huh? How else can you get
> || rid of algae besides chemicals? It's a 5 gallon tank w/light &
> || filter and does get some sunlight.
> ||
> || Any advise would be so welcome as I'd like to get it going again...
> ||
> || Mary
>
> most if not all algae fix chemicals have copper in 'em and that surely
would
> have done your snail in... the frog, might have suffered from it too....
>
> so sorry... #1 reason never to use chemicals.... IMO, the #1 reason
> fish/snails/frogs die....
>
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So if you have heavy, all-of-a-sudden algae, what would you do? I still have
the problem as that was my first dose and now the water is all cloudy so I
was going to treat it again now that they're gone...what do you recommend?

Thanks much,
Mary

[RedForeman ©®]

|| "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
||||| I just treated my tank on Sunday with AlgaeFix - came in to work
||||| this morning to find both frogs and the snail dead with a white
||||| fuzzy coating all over them. Pretty upset about it! They were fine
||||| yesterday (or so it looked).
|||||
||||| Was it the chemical or what?? Had to be, huh? How else can you
||||| get rid of algae besides chemicals? It's a 5 gallon tank w/light &
||||| filter and does get some sunlight.
|||||
||||| Any advise would be so welcome as I'd like to get it going
||||| again...
|||||
||||| Mary
|||
||| most if not all algae fix chemicals have copper in 'em and that
||| surely would have done your snail in... the frog, might have
||| suffered from it too....
|||
||| so sorry... #1 reason never to use chemicals.... IMO, the #1 reason
||| fish/snails/frogs die....
|||
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|| So if you have heavy, all-of-a-sudden algae, what would you do? I
|| still have the problem as that was my first dose and now the water
|| is all cloudy so I was going to treat it again now that they're
|| gone...what do you recommend?
||
|| Thanks much,
|| Mary

Well, what kind of algae is it??What plants if any do you have in it?? Can
they be hand scrubbed and cleaned, or a quick dip to save them?? Is the
algae covering everything??

That's just for starters... I have had issues with algae, and sometimes, a
total breakdown and cleansing is the ONLY way... but unless you've got the
dreaded Black Brush Algae, you'll probably find that it's either lights,
nutrients or routine maintanance that is the problem.

Shooting in the dark here...
Lights - Are your bulbs old? Replacing can maintain the balance you 'once'
had.
Nutrients - If you have plants, you may be fertilizing too much, or too
little. I know, weird huh?
Maintaining - If you've not done regular water changes, and gravel
vacuumings, the algae will grow from the leftovers in the tank.

Also, seasonal changes in water supply could spark an outbreak, it did in
mine....

Start a new thread with your full tank parameters, explaining the problem,
and post it over in the plants group, and I'm sure the collective
knowledgebase will find the root of all evil... haha...

Links to identify Algae, I'm sure there are more....
http://jerbaker.dhs.org/fish/algae.html
http://freshaquarium.about.com/msub01.htm

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[Mary E. Hill]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> || "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> ||||| I just treated my tank on Sunday with AlgaeFix - came in to work
> ||||| this morning to find both frogs and the snail dead with a white
> ||||| fuzzy coating all over them. Pretty upset about it! They were fine
> ||||| yesterday (or so it looked).
> |||||
> ||||| Was it the chemical or what?? Had to be, huh? How else can you
> ||||| get rid of algae besides chemicals? It's a 5 gallon tank w/light &
> ||||| filter and does get some sunlight.
> |||||
> ||||| Any advise would be so welcome as I'd like to get it going
> ||||| again...
> |||||
> ||||| Mary
> |||
> ||| most if not all algae fix chemicals have copper in 'em and that
> ||| surely would have done your snail in... the frog, might have
> ||| suffered from it too....
> |||
> ||| so sorry... #1 reason never to use chemicals.... IMO, the #1 reason
> ||| fish/snails/frogs die....
> |||
> ||| --
> |||| RedForeman ©® fabricator and creator of the ratbike streetfighter!!!
> ||
> || So if you have heavy, all-of-a-sudden algae, what would you do? I
> || still have the problem as that was my first dose and now the water
> || is all cloudy so I was going to treat it again now that they're
> || gone...what do you recommend?
> ||
> || Thanks much,
> || Mary
>
> Well, what kind of algae is it??What plants if any do you have in it?? Can
> they be hand scrubbed and cleaned, or a quick dip to save them?? Is the
> algae covering everything??
>
> That's just for starters... I have had issues with algae, and sometimes,
a
> total breakdown and cleansing is the ONLY way... but unless you've got the
> dreaded Black Brush Algae, you'll probably find that it's either lights,
> nutrients or routine maintanance that is the problem.
>
> Shooting in the dark here...
> Lights - Are your bulbs old? Replacing can maintain the balance you 'once'
> had.
> Nutrients - If you have plants, you may be fertilizing too much, or too
> little. I know, weird huh?
> Maintaining - If you've not done regular water changes, and gravel
> vacuumings, the algae will grow from the leftovers in the tank.
>
> Also, seasonal changes in water supply could spark an outbreak, it did in
> mine....
>
> Start a new thread with your full tank parameters, explaining the problem,
> and post it over in the plants group, and I'm sure the collective
> knowledgebase will find the root of all evil... haha...
>
> Links to identify Algae, I'm sure there are more....
> http://jerbaker.dhs.org/fish/algae.html
> http://freshaquarium.about.com/msub01.htm
>
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>

Well, I don't want to post in the plants group, because I don't have any!
Or rather, I had one plastic one that I've now pitched because it's upper
half was covered in bright green beard (it appears to be) algae. That's the
only place it was growing - just on that one plant. It showed up quick -
like overnight it seemed.

I think it was a combination of sunlight (I'm going to move the tank to a
corner now w/no windows right next to it) and excess food, which doesn't
happen much, but it did earlier this week!

The bulb is relatively new - only had this tank since the end of May

Thanks, Red, for your time:)

[RedForeman ©®]

|| Well, I don't want to post in the plants group, because I don't have
|| any! Or rather, I had one plastic one that I've now pitched because
|| it's upper half was covered in bright green beard (it appears to be)
|| algae. That's the only place it was growing - just on that one
|| plant. It showed up quick - like overnight it seemed.

Then there's hope for you after all... If you don't have plants, REAL
plants, then water changes are your best course, also very aggressive
vacuuming atleast one good time to get the algae that may be free, but sunk
to the bottom...

|| I think it was a combination of sunlight (I'm going to move the tank
|| to a corner now w/no windows right next to it) and excess food,
|| which doesn't happen much, but it did earlier this week!

Then there ya have it.. that is the cause of the algae, over exposure to
intensive light... well, it could be the reason..

|| The bulb is relatively new - only had this tank since the end of May

My bet would be the sunlight is your enemy... In my defense, I have a 65g
US, and it's sitting near a window with blinds.. it gets a thin layer of
algae daily, and I scrub it off once a week.... for this tank, I can't stick
my hand in it, the Red Devil that's in it, will bite my hand, hard. I let
it be, it doesn't bother me, I clean it once a week, and it's usually not
terrible, yet, it's hair algae, caused by too much light, and since the fish
is a very heavy eater, the algae just keeps growing.... I do weekly water
changes to combat his eating habits, and scrape the glass too

I hope some of this does you some good... remember, that's what this groups
for... helping.

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[Mary E. Hill]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> || Well, I don't want to post in the plants group, because I don't have
> || any! Or rather, I had one plastic one that I've now pitched because
> || it's upper half was covered in bright green beard (it appears to be)
> || algae. That's the only place it was growing - just on that one
> || plant. It showed up quick - like overnight it seemed.
>
> Then there's hope for you after all... If you don't have plants, REAL
> plants, then water changes are your best course, also very aggressive
> vacuuming atleast one good time to get the algae that may be free, but
sunk
> to the bottom...
>
> || I think it was a combination of sunlight (I'm going to move the tank
> || to a corner now w/no windows right next to it) and excess food,
> || which doesn't happen much, but it did earlier this week!
>
> Then there ya have it.. that is the cause of the algae, over exposure to
> intensive light... well, it could be the reason..
>
> || The bulb is relatively new - only had this tank since the end of May
>
> My bet would be the sunlight is your enemy... In my defense, I have a 65g
> US, and it's sitting near a window with blinds.. it gets a thin layer of
> algae daily, and I scrub it off once a week.... for this tank, I can't
stick
> my hand in it, the Red Devil that's in it, will bite my hand, hard. I let
> it be, it doesn't bother me, I clean it once a week, and it's usually not
> terrible, yet, it's hair algae, caused by too much light, and since the
fish
> is a very heavy eater, the algae just keeps growing.... I do weekly water
> changes to combat his eating habits, and scrape the glass too
>
> I hope some of this does you some good... remember, that's what this
groups
> for... helping.
>
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>

You're so nice - but every time I see your posts, I remember you as the one
who even has a tank in the bathroom! What a reputation:)

[CanadianCray]

A tank in the bathroom! Really???? Those poor fish.

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"Mary E. Hill" > wrote in message
...
>
> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> ...
> > || Well, I don't want to post in the plants group, because I don't have
> > || any! Or rather, I had one plastic one that I've now pitched because
> > || it's upper half was covered in bright green beard (it appears to be)
> > || algae. That's the only place it was growing - just on that one
> > || plant. It showed up quick - like overnight it seemed.
> >
> > Then there's hope for you after all... If you don't have plants, REAL
> > plants, then water changes are your best course, also very aggressive
> > vacuuming atleast one good time to get the algae that may be free, but
> sunk
> > to the bottom...
> >
> > || I think it was a combination of sunlight (I'm going to move the tank
> > || to a corner now w/no windows right next to it) and excess food,
> > || which doesn't happen much, but it did earlier this week!
> >
> > Then there ya have it.. that is the cause of the algae, over exposure to
> > intensive light... well, it could be the reason..
> >
> > || The bulb is relatively new - only had this tank since the end of May
> >
> > My bet would be the sunlight is your enemy... In my defense, I have a
65g
> > US, and it's sitting near a window with blinds.. it gets a thin layer of
> > algae daily, and I scrub it off once a week.... for this tank, I can't
> stick
> > my hand in it, the Red Devil that's in it, will bite my hand, hard. I
let
> > it be, it doesn't bother me, I clean it once a week, and it's usually
not
> > terrible, yet, it's hair algae, caused by too much light, and since the
> fish
> > is a very heavy eater, the algae just keeps growing.... I do weekly
water
> > changes to combat his eating habits, and scrape the glass too
> >
> > I hope some of this does you some good... remember, that's what this
> groups
> > for... helping.
> >
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> >
>
> You're so nice - but every time I see your posts, I remember you as the
one
> who even has a tank in the bathroom! What a reputation:)
>
>

[RedForeman ©®]

|| A tank in the bathroom! Really???? Those poor fish.

Yep... it was the wife's idea... not a bad one though, it provides nite
lites, and aids in the relief effort.... like the waterfall effect...

||| You're so nice - but every time I see your posts, I remember you as
||| the one who even has a tank in the bathroom! What a reputation:)

I've had worse reputations... I can live with, "one with tank in
bathroom'.....

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[Geezer From The Freezer]

"RedForeman =A9=AE" wrote:
> =

> || A tank in the bathroom! Really???? Those poor fish.
> =

> Yep... it was the wife's idea... not a bad one though, it provides nite=

> lites, and aids in the relief effort.... like the waterfall effect...
> =

> ||| You're so nice - but every time I see your posts, I remember you as=

> ||| the one who even has a tank in the bathroom! What a reputation:)
> =

> I've had worse reputations... I can live with, "one with tank in
> bathroom'.....

Lol :D

Do you ever come home after a heavy night and use the tank like a sink to=

refresh
your face ;)