DI Resin - silicate removal

[KurtG]

Does anybody know if there resin that specifically targets silicates?

--Kurt

[Wayne Sallee]

Yea, aluminum hydroxide, and ferric hydroxide.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


KurtG wrote on 6/10/2007 2:40 PM:
> Does anybody know if there resin that specifically targets silicates?
>
> --Kurt

[Wayne Sallee]

Yea Aluminum Oxide, and Ferric Oxide.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


KurtG wrote on 6/10/2007 2:40 PM:
> Does anybody know if there resin that specifically targets silicates?
>
> --Kurt

[Pondmeister]

More dumbass assumptins Wayne, They are not resins, they are
actually............drum roll please....................you look it up
your own ****ing self am not your lacky. Wayne you seem to reply just
for the sake of replying, Is this a bad habit you have you know like
an addiction to drugs, you just can not resist answering a post even
if you do not have a ****ing clue!

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:01:37 -0400, Wayne Sallee
> wrote:

<<>>Yea Aluminum Oxide, and Ferric Oxide.
<<>>
<<>>Wayne Sallee
<<>>Wayne's Pets

<<>>
<<>>KurtG wrote on 6/10/2007 2:40 PM:
<<>>> Does anybody know if there resin that specifically targets silicates?
<<>>>
<<>>> --Kurt



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Wayne Sallee]

Actually Aluminum Oxide, I don't thing iron bonds
well to silicates :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Wayne Sallee wrote on 6/10/2007 3:01 PM:
> Yea Aluminum Oxide, and Ferric Oxide.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
> KurtG wrote on 6/10/2007 2:40 PM:
>> Does anybody know if there resin that specifically targets silicates?
>>
>> --Kurt

[Wayne Sallee]

But I would not worry about trying to take silicates
out of the water.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Wayne Sallee wrote on 6/10/2007 4:39 PM:
> Actually Aluminum Oxide, I don't thing iron bonds well to silicates :-)
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
> Wayne Sallee wrote on 6/10/2007 3:01 PM:
>> Yea Aluminum Oxide, and Ferric Oxide.
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>>
>> KurtG wrote on 6/10/2007 2:40 PM:
>>> Does anybody know if there resin that specifically targets silicates?
>>>
>>> --Kurt

[KurtG]

Wayne Sallee wrote:
> But I would not worry about trying to take silicates out of the water.

Well, I think I convinced myself that I have very low silicates in my
RO/DI water and tank. It looks like my tap water is about 2ppm, but my
tank seems to have undetectable levels. My test is sensitive down to
about 0.03.

My diatoms are thick and unsightly. Within a few hours of cleaning the
tank, I have a green haze back on the glass. Within 2-3 days, I can't
even see through the glass. I'm down to only two turbos, but I have 50
ordered (still). My order is being held up, but it will ship this week.

I think I'll just work on a refugium to grow chaeto and pods, and not
worry about the diatoms for the moment.

--Kurt

[Wayne Sallee]

That's incredibly fast for diatoms. With that kind
of diatom growth, your turbos should be doing great.
Are the turbos making paths on the glass? What about
the sand and the gravel, how's it looking? What's
causing your turbos to die?

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


KurtG wrote on 6/10/2007 7:45 PM:
> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>> But I would not worry about trying to take silicates out of the water.
>
> Well, I think I convinced myself that I have very low silicates in my
> RO/DI water and tank. It looks like my tap water is about 2ppm, but my
> tank seems to have undetectable levels. My test is sensitive down to
> about 0.03.
>
> My diatoms are thick and unsightly. Within a few hours of cleaning the
> tank, I have a green haze back on the glass. Within 2-3 days, I can't
> even see through the glass. I'm down to only two turbos, but I have 50
> ordered (still). My order is being held up, but it will ship this week.
>
> I think I'll just work on a refugium to grow chaeto and pods, and not
> worry about the diatoms for the moment.
>
> --Kurt
>

[Wayne Sallee]

Also is there something not up to par with your
algae magnet?

The better you clean the glass, the longer it will
take for diatoms to reappear. This is because
diatoms can be left on the glass, and multiply.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Wayne Sallee wrote on 6/10/2007 9:11 PM:
> That's incredibly fast for diatoms. With that kind of diatom growth,
> your turbos should be doing great. Are the turbos making paths on the
> glass? What about the sand and the gravel, how's it looking? What's
> causing your turbos to die?
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
> KurtG wrote on 6/10/2007 7:45 PM:
>> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>>> But I would not worry about trying to take silicates out of the water.
>>
>> Well, I think I convinced myself that I have very low silicates in my
>> RO/DI water and tank. It looks like my tap water is about 2ppm, but
>> my tank seems to have undetectable levels. My test is sensitive down
>> to about 0.03.
>>
>> My diatoms are thick and unsightly. Within a few hours of cleaning
>> the tank, I have a green haze back on the glass. Within 2-3 days, I
>> can't even see through the glass. I'm down to only two turbos, but I
>> have 50 ordered (still). My order is being held up, but it will ship
>> this week.
>>
>> I think I'll just work on a refugium to grow chaeto and pods, and not
>> worry about the diatoms for the moment.
>>
>> --Kurt
>>

[KurtG]

Wayne Sallee wrote:
> Also is there something not up to par with your algae magnet?

It seems fine. I occasionally clean it and it puts up billows of green
clouds when I clean. I also scrape the glass occasionally, so I don't
think it's the algae magnet.

[Pondmeister]

Quit wanking off in the tank Kurt.....I know Wayne gets you excited,
but enough is enough already, your gonna go blind!

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:01:13 -0400, KurtG
> wrote:

<<>>Wayne Sallee wrote:
<<>>> Also is there something not up to par with your algae magnet?
<<>>
<<>>It seems fine. I occasionally clean it and it puts up billows of green
<<>>clouds when I clean. I also scrape the glass occasionally, so I don't
<<>>think it's the algae magnet.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[KurtG]

Wayne Sallee wrote:
> That's incredibly fast for diatoms. With that kind of diatom growth,
> your turbos should be doing great. Are the turbos making paths on the
> glass? What about the sand and the gravel, how's it looking? What's
> causing your turbos to die?

Yes, the turbos definitely make paths on the glass. I think the hermits
killed off a number of turbos for there shells, and then it took me
awhile to figure out that when a turbo lands on it's back, it can't get
up. I now turn them back over when they accidentally get bumped by the
algae magnet. I also feed my giant hermit once a week to keep him from
preying on the turbos.

The sand is okay. There are some brown areas, but between the blenny
and 2 fighting conchs, it gets turned over frequently. I've been slowly
adding more sand because I only have a 1/4" inch in spots. I also have
lots of debris from turbo shells, etc. I've been removing a few of
these whenever I do a water change to keep the sand sifters happy.

I think it's sherlock homes reasoning time: "Eliminate all other
factors, and the one which remains must be the truth."

Phosphate? I'm thinking the phosphate reactor is working well enough to
keep the hair algae under control, but it's still not good enough for
the diatoms.

It seems that the only time the diatoms get knocked back is when I
change media in the phosphate reactor. I get 2-3 days of clear glass,
and then I'm back to the usual. It keeps the hair algae from growing
for about a month. I was thinking that it was silicates, but now
phosphate seems more plausible.

I'll order a more sensitive phosphate test and keep working on the fug.

--Kurt

[Peter Pan]

Kurt are you using a RODI?
"KurtG" > wrote in message
.. .
> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>> That's incredibly fast for diatoms. With that kind of diatom growth, your
>> turbos should be doing great. Are the turbos making paths on the glass?
>> What about the sand and the gravel, how's it looking? What's causing your
>> turbos to die?
>
> Yes, the turbos definitely make paths on the glass. I think the hermits
> killed off a number of turbos for there shells, and then it took me awhile
> to figure out that when a turbo lands on it's back, it can't get up. I
> now turn them back over when they accidentally get bumped by the algae
> magnet. I also feed my giant hermit once a week to keep him from preying
> on the turbos.
>
> The sand is okay. There are some brown areas, but between the blenny and
> 2 fighting conchs, it gets turned over frequently. I've been slowly
> adding more sand because I only have a 1/4" inch in spots. I also have
> lots of debris from turbo shells, etc. I've been removing a few of these
> whenever I do a water change to keep the sand sifters happy.
>
> I think it's sherlock homes reasoning time: "Eliminate all other factors,
> and the one which remains must be the truth."
>
> Phosphate? I'm thinking the phosphate reactor is working well enough to
> keep the hair algae under control, but it's still not good enough for the
> diatoms.
>
> It seems that the only time the diatoms get knocked back is when I change
> media in the phosphate reactor. I get 2-3 days of clear glass, and then
> I'm back to the usual. It keeps the hair algae from growing for about a
> month. I was thinking that it was silicates, but now phosphate seems more
> plausible.
>
> I'll order a more sensitive phosphate test and keep working on the fug.
>
> --Kurt
>
>

[Wayne Sallee]

Well one thing about it, you have plenty of free
phytoplankton for your filter feeders every time you
clean the glass :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


KurtG wrote on 6/10/2007 10:01 PM:
> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>> Also is there something not up to par with your algae magnet?
>
> It seems fine. I occasionally clean it and it puts up billows of green
> clouds when I clean. I also scrape the glass occasionally, so I don't
> think it's the algae magnet.

[KurtG]

Peter Pan wrote:
> Kurt are you using a RODI?

Definitely. I just changed the resin when TDS reached 6.

[Wayne Sallee]

Also another thing you can do is to put something in
your canopy to block the light from shining directly
on the front glass.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


KurtG wrote on 6/11/2007 7:17 AM:
> Peter Pan wrote:
>> Kurt are you using a RODI?
>
> Definitely. I just changed the resin when TDS reached 6.

[KurtG]

Wayne Sallee wrote:
> Well one thing about it, you have plenty of free phytoplankton for your
> filter feeders every time you clean the glass :-)

I don't have too many filter feeders (unless you want to count sponges).

[Wayne Sallee]

Yea I was counting sponges :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


KurtG wrote on 6/11/2007 7:23 AM:
> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>> Well one thing about it, you have plenty of free phytoplankton for your
>> filter feeders every time you clean the glass :-)
>
> I don't have too many filter feeders (unless you want to count sponges).