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bobandcarole[_5_]
July 8th 07, 02:44 PM
On Jul 6, 4:21?pm, (XXX) wrote:
> Don Quixote > wrote:
> > bobandcarole wrote:
> > > On Jul 5, 2:02?pm, Jennie > wrote:
> > >> On 2 Jul, 02:18, (XXX) wrote:
>
> > >>> Finally, a word about children. When a person with pedophilia
> > >>> interacts with a child sexually, he has done wrong. He may, or may
> > >>> not, have caused harm.
> > >> If a boy is desperate for sex, and at a certain age all young boys are
> > >> desperate for sex, it is surely wrong for his mother to refuse sexual
> > >> contact.
>
> > >> Jennie
>
> > > I hope you are not a Parent.
>
> > Your (bobandcarole's) mistake in logic and judgment, is that you put too
> > much importance on others fitting in with your own values and culture
> > (i.e. those of the Politically Correct Majority). For example, on
> > another thread you stated that a particular adult child sexual
> > relationship was "Wrong", while in fact it is only wrong if one of the
> > two participants then or later believe it was wrong. It is not
> > automatically wrong simply because it doesn't fit into your view of
> > "Normal".
>
> > If instead your argument was "there will surly be major problems that
> > can best be avoided by not ever having such a relationship" then you
> > might have a defendable position, and we could have a reasonable
> > discussion as to the potential problems.
>
> > The difference between you and I, though, is the fact that while I may
> > concede that specific problems that you might mention do exist, I would
> > still have those relationships but being extra careful to avoid those
> > specific problems. The reason is I am already very aware of the real
> > problems for the child later in life caused from NOT having pleasant
> > sexual experiences during the formative years.
>
> > In other words, Jennie would probably make an excellent parent but guess
> > what, she wouldn't raise her children according to YOUR standards. And
> > of course the real test is: will those children when they grow up also
> > want to raise their own children that way too?
>
> > DonQuixote169 at Yahoo dot Com
> > also on Yahoo IM as DonQuixote169
>
> There is no room in bobandcarole's tiny, close mind for free thought or
> others' views.
I have no room for men that sodomize children
I do have a bullet with their name on it...

bobandcarole,
July 9th 07, 01:01 PM
On Jul 8, 3:04?pm, (XXX) wrote:
> bobandcarole > wrote:
> > On Jul 6, 4:21?pm, (XXX) wrote:
> > > Don Quixote > wrote:
> > > > bobandcarole wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 5, 2:02?pm, Jennie > wrote:
> > > > >> On 2 Jul, 02:18, (XXX) wrote:
>
> > > > >>> Finally, a word about children. When a person with pedophilia
> > > > >>> interacts with a child sexually, he has done wrong. He may, or
> > > > >>> may not, have caused harm.
> > > > >> If a boy is desperate for sex, and at a certain age all young boys
> > > > >> are desperate for sex, it is surely wrong for his mother to refuse
> > > > >> sexual contact.
>
> > > > >> Jennie
>
> > > > > I hope you are not a Parent.
>
> > > > Your (bobandcarole's) mistake in logic and judgment, is that you put
> > > > too much importance on others fitting in with your own values and
> > > > culture (i.e. those of the Politically Correct Majority). For
> > > > example, on another thread you stated that a particular adult child
> > > > sexual relationship was "Wrong", while in fact it is only wrong if
> > > > one of the two participants then or later believe it was wrong. It
> > > > is not automatically wrong simply because it doesn't fit into your
> > > > view of "Normal".
>
> > > > If instead your argument was "there will surly be major problems that
> > > > can best be avoided by not ever having such a relationship" then you
> > > > might have a defendable position, and we could have a reasonable
> > > > discussion as to the potential problems.
>
> > > > The difference between you and I, though, is the fact that while I
> > > > may concede that specific problems that you might mention do exist, I
> > > > would still have those relationships but being extra careful to avoid
> > > > those specific problems. The reason is I am already very aware of
> > > > the real problems for the child later in life caused from NOT having
> > > > pleasant sexual experiences during the formative years.
>
> > > > In other words, Jennie would probably make an excellent parent but
> > > > guess what, she wouldn't raise her children according to YOUR
> > > > standards. And of course the real test is: will those children when
> > > > they grow up also want to raise their own children that way too?
>
> > > > DonQuixote169 at Yahoo dot Com
> > > > also on Yahoo IM as DonQuixote169
>
> > > There is no room in bobandcarole's tiny, close mind for free thought or
> > > others' views.
> > I have no room for men that sodomize children
> > I do have a bullet with their name on it...
>
> Really? And what is my name?

Pick one, they all fit you to a tee:
pedophile
****bag
turd with eyes
kiddie****er
deviant
pervert