Sick comet - what is this growth ?

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Hi,

I have two comets in a 4 foot tank and one has had this growth on the
head for about a year now and it's slowly getting worse. You can see
pics here:-

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0049.JPG
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0053.JPG

I've tried Myxazin and another general antibacterial, I've added salt
to 3% and I've tried increasing the temps to 25 degrees C for a few
weeks. Nothing at all seems to make any difference.

The fish isn't showing any signs of distress, but I can see this thing
eventually killing it unless I can resolve it before it takes over the
whole fish.

The water quality is generally excellent, pH, Ammonia & Nitrites. The
Nitrates have historically not been so great, but not dangerous
levels. The other comet in the tank seems fine.

Can anyone suggest anything please ?

Many many thanks in advance.

Kev.

[carlrs]

On Aug 18, 2:03 pm, wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have two comets in a 4 foot tank and one has had this growth on the
> head for about a year now and it's slowly getting worse. You can see
> pics here:-
>
> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0049.JPGhttp://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0053.JPG
>
> I've tried Myxazin and another general antibacterial, I've added salt
> to 3% and I've tried increasing the temps to 25 degrees C for a few
> weeks. Nothing at all seems to make any difference.
>
> The fish isn't showing any signs of distress, but I can see this thing
> eventually killing it unless I can resolve it before it takes over the
> whole fish.
>
> The water quality is generally excellent, pH, Ammonia & Nitrites. The
> Nitrates have historically not been so great, but not dangerous
> levels. The other comet in the tank seems fine.
>
> Can anyone suggest anything please ?
>
> Many many thanks in advance.
>
> Kev.

This appears to be a tumor (based on the second pic). Unfortunately
there is little you can do but keep excellent aquarium parameters.

I would give medicated baths a chance on the outside hope they may
work (or if this is something else such as a virulent fungus or
Flexibacteria). What I would use is Potassium Permanganate in a 30
minute bath at double recommended tank strength. Methylene Blue can
also be used, but SEPERATELY.
For more information about these medications, I recommend this
article:
http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/AquariumMedication3.html
http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Medication.html

Also I would not raise your tank temperature for this as this can
worsen Flexibacteria (Columnaris), and even though I think it is a
tumor, this is a possible diagnosis. See this article:
http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Columnaris.html

Keep your water parameters here for Comets:
*Ammonia/nitrites- 0
*Nitrates - under 50 ppm
*pH- stable
*GH/ KH- at least 100/50 ppm respectively


Carl

[Tristan[_3_]]

On 20 Aug, 09:51, carlrs > wrote:
> On Aug 18, 2:03 pm, wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I have two comets in a 4 foot tank and one has had this growth on the
> > head for about a year now and it's slowly getting worse. You can see
> > pics here:-
>
> >http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0049.JPGhttp://www.f...
>
> > I've tried Myxazin and another general antibacterial, I've added salt
> > to 3% and I've tried increasing the temps to 25 degrees C for a few
> > weeks. Nothing at all seems to make any difference.
>
> > The fish isn't showing any signs of distress, but I can see this thing
> > eventually killing it unless I can resolve it before it takes over the
> > whole fish.
>
> > The water quality is generally excellent, pH, Ammonia & Nitrites. The
> > Nitrates have historically not been so great, but not dangerous
> > levels. The other comet in the tank seems fine.
>
> > Can anyone suggest anything please ?
>
> > Many many thanks in advance.
>
> > Kev.
>
> This appears to be a tumor (based on the second pic). Unfortunately
> there is little you can do but keep excellent aquarium parameters.
>
> I would give medicated baths a chance on the outside hope they may
> work (or if this is something else such as a virulent fungus or
> Flexibacteria). What I would use is Potassium Permanganate in a 30
> minute bath at double recommended tank strength. Methylene Blue can
> also be used, but SEPERATELY.
> For more information about these medications, I recommend this
> article:http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/AquariumMedication3.htmlhttp://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Medication.html
>
> Also I would not raise your tank temperature for this as this can
> worsen Flexibacteria (Columnaris), and even though I think it is a
> tumor, this is a possible diagnosis. See this article:http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Columnaris.html
>
> Keep your water parameters here for Comets:
> *Ammonia/nitrites- 0
> *Nitrates - under 50 ppm
> *pH- stable
> *GH/ KH- at least 100/50 ppm respectively
>
> Carl- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Flush trhe dam thing aleady..................you got your moneys
worth out of it you cheapskate...A comet is like 13 cents to buy!

[Reel McKoi[_3_]]

"carlrs" > wrote in message
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> On Aug 18, 2:03 pm, wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have two comets in a 4 foot tank and one has had this growth on the
>> head for about a year now and it's slowly getting worse. You can see
>> pics here:-
>>
>> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0049.JPGhttp://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0053.JPG
>>
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I'm getting a "file does not exist" error.
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[Sarcum]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
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> On Aug 20, 10:24?am, Tristan > wrote:
>
> Nonsense deleted....
>
> Cross posts deleted as usual too.
>
> (alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.troll)
>
> If it acts like a troll.....
> If it smells like a troll....
> It's a TROLL


Just like you. Trolling the old regulars in the hope of running them off so
you can be Queen Bee of the group again.

[Reel McKoi[_3_]]

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have two comets in a 4 foot tank and one has had this growth on the
> head for about a year now and it's slowly getting worse. You can see
> pics here:-
>
> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0049.JPG
> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0053.JPG
========================
It looks like carp pox which is a virus and incurable.
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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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[Reel McKoi[_3_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
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> On Aug 20, 11:15?am, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
>
>> It looks like carp pox which is a virus and incurable.
>> --
>
> Carol,
> Please explain in detail what Carp pox.
===================
Tynk,
Please explain it yourself since you believe you know everything there is to
know about fish.
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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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[Telstar[_2_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Aug 20, 1:12?pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
>> "Tynk" > wrote in message
>>
>> ps.com...> On Aug 20,
>> 11:15?am, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
>>
>> >> It looks like carp pox which is a virus and incurable.
>> >> --
>>
>> > Carol,
>> > Please explain in detail what Carp pox.
>>
>> ===================
>> Tynk,
>> Please explain it yourself since you believe you know everything there is
>> to
>> know about fish.
>
> I asked you to explain what it is because I don't know.
> I have NEVER claimed to know everything about fish, never once!
> Sheesh, can't ask you a simple question.
> I "thought" you were an expert in Goldfish. I was obviuosly mistaken.
> And by the way, this nonsense **<< They still think by BAITING,
> harassing, belittling, slandering and in
> general trolling those they want to leave the groups, they'll drive
> them
> off. This same technique didn't work before but she though she'd give
> in
> another try anyway.>>**
>
> Is just that. Nonsense. I am not "baiting you". I asked a very simple
> question.
> Of course I could have looked it up myself. However, that wouldn't
> answer anyone reading your post that didn't know what it was.
> I thought that if you gave an explanation of what it was, maybe others
> could learn as well.
> Again, I was wrong about you.
> Did you ever once take a second to think that maybe this person who
> you claim is "my friend and emailed you about some plot" is your old
> buddy Roy trying to start trouble.
> Think about it.
>

I have never heard of carp pox and consider myself an advanced amateur
ichthyologist. I also want to know!

[Reel McKoi[_3_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Aug 20, 1:12?pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
>> "Tynk" > wrote in message
>>
>> ps.com...> On Aug 20,
>> 11:15?am, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
>>
>> >> It looks like carp pox which is a virus and incurable.
>> >> --
>>
>> > Carol,
>> > Please explain in detail what Carp pox.
>>
>> ===================
>> Tynk,
>> Please explain it yourself since you believe you know everything there is
>> to
>> know about fish.
>
> I asked you to explain what it is because I don't know.
> I have NEVER claimed to know everything about fish, never once!
> Sheesh, can't ask you a simple question.
============================
There is no need to ask a simple question when you can Google as well as
anyone else if you want, as you said, "detailed information."
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RM....
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rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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[Reel McKoi[_3_]]

"Telstar" > wrote in message
...
>
> I have never heard of carp pox and consider myself an advanced amateur
> ichthyologist. I also want to know!
===========================
Google is your friend:

CARP POX: Carp Pox should be differentiated from other viral and non viral
eruptions with a microscope. In very cold water, there are strains of Ich
which will ...

GO HERE:
www.koivet.com/plants/library/carp_pox.htm
www.pondcreations.co.uk/fish_health.htm

Or here:
Carp pox is one of the oldest recognized fish diseases. It is caused by
cyprinid herpesvirus-1. Pox lesions may occur on other species of fish.

www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/htm/bc/170416.htm

None of your know how to use a search engine?
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Telstar[_2_]]

"Reel McKoi" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Telstar" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I have never heard of carp pox and consider myself an advanced amateur
>> ichthyologist. I also want to know!
> ===========================
> Google is your friend:
>
> CARP POX: Carp Pox should be differentiated from other viral and non
> viral eruptions with a microscope. In very cold water, there are strains
> of Ich which will ...

Correction appreciated....I learned this as a different moniker.

[carlrs]

On Aug 20, 6:07 pm, "Telstar" > wrote:
> "Reel McKoi" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > "Telstar" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >> I have never heard of carp pox and consider myself an advanced amateur
> >> ichthyologist. I also want to know!
> > ===========================
> > Google is your friend:
>
> > CARP POX: Carp Pox should be differentiated from other viral and non
> > viral eruptions with a microscope. In very cold water, there are strains
> > of Ich which will ...
>
> Correction appreciated....I learned this as a different moniker.

I do not think this is Carp Pox based on the steps to remedy the
problem that have already been taken (and the picture as well!). Most
agree (including two of the sites listed) that heat is a treatment and
that this problem generally appears in colder months, often in poor
water conditions as well. Since this tank has been heated, and I am
assuming there are reasonable tank parameters and simply the picture
posted I do not believe this to be the case.

Here are a few more sites:
http://www.koi-bito.com/forum/general-koi-forum/6178-carp-pox.html#post80635
http://p103.ezboard.com/fthegoldfishandaquariumboardfrm11.showMessage?topi cID=192.topic

Here is a site that distinguishes different viral diseases:
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/VM113

BTW
Search engines are not the answers to finding the best sites, yes they
are helpful however they are in the business of generating revenue and
often word of mouth will find more recent , up to date articles as
many search engines have aging algorithms that often punish newer
sites (Google is the worst here).
I know this will draw some hate email from the Google lovers, but as
someone who has been involved in SEO (search engine optimization); I
will state that Google is NOT the best place for information searches
(MSN and Yahoo will bring up more current info). In fact I a have been
performing an experiment over the last two years with competing
information sites and Google has consistently rewarded the more spamy
less content driven site while dissing the better site and forcing
searches towards Adwords, unlike Yahoo and MSN (which still are not
the answer either)

Bottom line persons come to forums to learn rather than going to
search engines that may or may not know where a recent, updated
article that may properly answer their question is (the exception to
this is the Yahoo Answers forum which is a disinformation free for
all).

Carl
http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Information.html

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it is likely one of two things. epistylis which shows up in warmer
water and is cleared up with lots of water changes or lymphocystis,
which is a virus and found in cooler water. I got a koi with lympho
and frankly, it doesnt clear up, there is no treatment and it supposed
to be somewhat contagious, but none of the other koi get it so I
think that fish is susceptible. if your other fish doesnt have
anything like this, then it is most likely lympho and dont worry.

once I was dining at this restaurant on the Hudson river and these
huge carp were coming to the surface to be fed and I saw the
absolutely ugliest fish on earth with lympho all over its mouth.
obviously the fish was thriving even with the "warts". Ingrid

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:03:27 -0700, wrote:
>I have two comets in a 4 foot tank and one has had this growth on the
>head for about a year now and it's slowly getting worse. You can see
>pics here:-
>
>http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0049.JPG
>http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0053.JPG
>
>I've tried Myxazin and another general antibacterial, I've added salt
>to 3% and I've tried increasing the temps to 25 degrees C for a few
>weeks. Nothing at all seems to make any difference.
>
>The fish isn't showing any signs of distress, but I can see this thing
>eventually killing it unless I can resolve it before it takes over the
>whole fish.
>
>The water quality is generally excellent, pH, Ammonia & Nitrites. The
>Nitrates have historically not been so great, but not dangerous
>levels. The other comet in the tank seems fine.
>
>Can anyone suggest anything please ?
>
>Many many thanks in advance.
>
>Kev.

[Tynks old vagina]

On 22 Aug, 11:12, wrote:
> it is likely one of two things. epistylis which shows up in warmer
> water and is cleared up with lots of water changes or lymphocystis,
> which is a virus and found in cooler water. I got a koi with lympho
> and frankly, it doesnt clear up, there is no treatment and it supposed
> to be somewhat contagious, but none of the other koi get it so I
> think that fish is susceptible. if your other fish doesnt have
> anything like this, then it is most likely lympho and dont worry.
>
> once I was dining at this restaurant on the Hudson river and these
> huge carp were coming to the surface to be fed and I saw the
> absolutely ugliest fish on earth with lympho all over its mouth.
> obviously the fish was thriving even with the "warts". Ingrid
>
>
>
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:03:27 -0700, wrote:
> >I have two comets in a 4 foot tank and one has had this growth on the
> >head for about a year now and it's slowly getting worse. You can see
> >pics here:-
>
> >http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0049.JPG
> >http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/89819/DSCF0053.JPG
>
> >I've tried Myxazin and another general antibacterial, I've added salt
> >to 3% and I've tried increasing the temps to 25 degrees C for a few
> >weeks. Nothing at all seems to make any difference.
>
> >The fish isn't showing any signs of distress, but I can see this thing
> >eventually killing it unless I can resolve it before it takes over the
> >whole fish.
>
> >The water quality is generally excellent, pH, Ammonia & Nitrites. The
> >Nitrates have historically not been so great, but not dangerous
> >levels. The other comet in the tank seems fine.
>
> >Can anyone suggest anything please ?
>
> >Many many thanks in advance.
>
> >Kev.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I hear you also have a yeast infection too Ingrid. Did it come from
going down on Joann or Gill or just using those French bread sticks
for a dildo? Ingrid aka Dr. Solo the ****ing bimbo lesbian koi ****er.