salt water shelf life

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i made salt water 2 weeks ago using ro/di unit and added salt. how
long is it good for.

[George Patterson]

wrote:
> i made salt water 2 weeks ago using ro/di unit and added salt. how
> long is it good for.

It depends on the storage container. I have made water in a plastic trash can
and had uncomfortable fish using it two weeks later. I've read recommendations
that water be kept in darkness if not immediately used.

My personal belief is that it would be ok if kept in glass containers. My
personal experience is that it is definitely ok if used within a week and
questionable after two weeks. YMMV.

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.

[Tristie]

On Aug 31, 9:32 pm, George Patterson > wrote:
> wrote:
> > i made salt water 2 weeks ago using ro/di unit and added salt. how
> > long is it good for.
>
> It depends on the storage container. I have made water in a plastic trash can
> and had uncomfortable fish using it two weeks later. I've read recommendations
> that water be kept in darkness if not immediately used.
>
> My personal belief is that it would be ok if kept in glass containers. My
> personal experience is that it is definitely ok if used within a week and
> questionable after two weeks. YMMV.
>
> George Patterson
> If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
> to anything.

So that nmeans you really do not know huh George, but feel compelled
to speak anyhow.What a ****ing loser you are George. Wayne has taught
you well. Just say anyhting and folks will belive you...........If
this question was posted in a bona fide marine group you woul dh ave
had a bunch of replies and a correct answer by now. Shows yuo what
good USENET really is.Go to SWF.com, creativereefing.com, or
reefcentral.com, sign in and post questions and get answers.instead of
a lot of carap and one dsided answers with no merit or basis for what
they say............................................in this god
forsaken **** hole of a wanna be marine group. Ask George if
swallowing is safe or is it better to spit, and I bet he knows that
one, as Wayne requires all to swallow if they hang here.

[Wayne Sallee]

It's good for ever. There is no shelf life for salt
water. And some people think that you have to keep a
pump moving the water, but you don't. However you do
want to keep your dry salt fresh. Letting moisture
get in messes things up.

Wayne Sallee


wrote on 8/31/2007 8:24 PM:
> i made salt water 2 weeks ago using ro/di unit and added salt. how
> long is it good for.
>

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[Tristie]

On Sep 1, 11:27 am, Wayne Sallee > wrote:
> It's good for ever. There is no shelf life for salt
> water. And some people think that you have to keep a
> pump moving the water, but you don't. However you do
> want to keep your dry salt fresh. Letting moisture
> get in messes things up.
>
> Wayne Sallee
>
>
> wrote on 8/31/2007 8:24 PM:
>
> > i made salt water 2 weeks ago using ro/di unit and added salt. how
> > long is it good for.
>
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NO ONE ASKED ABOUT ****ING SALT TO MAKE SAL****ER IWTH
DUMBASS.................

[Pszemol]

"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message ...
> It's good for ever. There is no shelf life for salt
> water. And some people think that you have to keep a
> pump moving the water, but you don't. However you do
> want to keep your dry salt fresh. Letting moisture
> get in messes things up.


I have left sal****er for a couple of weeks without
movement, in the white plastic buckets left from
IO salt and I see salt/calcium deposit on the bottom.
When stirred it was like white milk.

One thing it could be the problem that I left the heater
in the bucket set for 80F... maybe heat has done it??

[Tristie]

On Sep 1, 7:27 pm, "Pszemol" > wrote:
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in .com...
> > It's good for ever. There is no shelf life for salt
> > water. And some people think that you have to keep a
> > pump moving the water, but you don't. However you do
> > want to keep your dry salt fresh. Letting moisture
> > get in messes things up.
>
> I have left sal****er for a couple of weeks without
> movement, in the white plastic buckets left from
> IO salt and I see salt/calcium deposit on the bottom.
> When stirred it was like white milk.
>
> One thing it could be the problem that I left the heater
> in the bucket set for 80F... maybe heat has done it??

Shut the **** up you babbling ****ing refuge idiot. No one cares what
you say or think, and odds are the white crap is your butthole buddy
Waynes love juices..

[Wayne Sallee]

Pszemol wrote on 9/1/2007 8:27 PM:
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> It's good for ever. There is no shelf life for salt water. And some
>> people think that you have to keep a pump moving the water, but you
>> don't. However you do want to keep your dry salt fresh. Letting
>> moisture get in messes things up.
>
>
> I have left sal****er for a couple of weeks without
> movement, in the white plastic buckets left from
> IO salt and I see salt/calcium deposit on the bottom.
> When stirred it was like white milk.
>
> One thing it could be the problem that I left the heater
> in the bucket set for 80F... maybe heat has done it??

High heat can precipitate calcium, but 80F is not hot.

It was definitely not salt deposits.

I assume you were using RO water?

One thing that does show up in the salts, is clay.
This clay can be white, or brown. With a good salt
this is hardly noticeable, until many batches have
been made, and it starts building up.

The clay does not hurt anything, but it does not
look good.


Wayne Sallee


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[Wayne Sallee]

Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/2/2007 8:37 PM:
> Pszemol wrote on 9/1/2007 8:27 PM:
>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> It's good for ever. There is no shelf life for salt water. And some
>>> people think that you have to keep a pump moving the water, but you
>>> don't. However you do want to keep your dry salt fresh. Letting
>>> moisture get in messes things up.
>>
>>
>> I have left sal****er for a couple of weeks without
>> movement, in the white plastic buckets left from
>> IO salt and I see salt/calcium deposit on the bottom.
>> When stirred it was like white milk.
>>
>> One thing it could be the problem that I left the heater
>> in the bucket set for 80F... maybe heat has done it??
>
> High heat can precipitate calcium, but 80F is not hot.
>
> It was definitely not salt deposits.
>
> I assume you were using RO water?
>
> One thing that does show up in the salts, is clay. This clay can be
> white, or brown. With a good salt this is hardly noticeable, until many
> batches have been made, and it starts building up.
>
> The clay does not hurt anything, but it does not look good.
>
>
> Wayne Sallee
>
>

Also make sure that moisture does not get into the
salt. The 5 gallon buckets hold up against moisture
real well.

Wayne Sallee


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[Pszemol]

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message:
>> I have left sal****er for a couple of weeks without
>> movement, in the white plastic buckets left from
>> IO salt and I see salt/calcium deposit on the bottom.
>> When stirred it was like white milk.
>>
>> One thing it could be the problem that I left the heater
>> in the bucket set for 80F... maybe heat has done it??
>
> High heat can precipitate calcium, but 80F is not hot.

Heater is set for 80F but the glass surface might
get much hotter than that, obviously...

> It was definitely not salt deposits.
> I assume you were using RO water?

Whatever it is, it comes from the salt...
I am using RO water and water is clear after mixing.
It starts depositing white dust over time...

When I took the cover loosely left over the bucket
after two weeks I saw white deposits on the bucket
walls, on the bottom and on the heater...
Interestingly, heater had hard to wash deposits
which came off when wiped with vinegear...

> One thing that does show up in the salts, is clay.
> This clay can be white, or brown. With a good salt
> this is hardly noticeable, until many batches have
> been made, and it starts building up.
>
> The clay does not hurt anything, but it does not
> look good.

If it was clay, than I would never see clear water.
Water stays clear for a time, than deposits
start forming.

The other idea I have is that in the summer time,
when intense A/C and less air circulation causes
bigger CO2 content in the air and this might
cause Ca precipitation from the mixture somehow
amplified with the heater...
But this is only guessing since I have not done
any chemical tests...

BTW - I have used such old water in a reef tank
and made it very milky for a day but water cleared
up nicely next day or so... The effect is kind of
similar to overdosing kalkwasser - white snow.

[Tristie]

On Sep 2, 9:46 pm, "Pszemol" > wrote:
> "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message:
> >> I have left sal****er for a couple of weeks without
> >> movement, in the white plastic buckets left from
> >> IO salt and I see salt/calcium deposit on the bottom.
> >> When stirred it was like white milk.
>
> >> One thing it could be the problem that I left the heater
> >> in the bucket set for 80F... maybe heat has done it??
>
> > High heat can precipitate calcium, but 80F is not hot.
>
> Heater is set for 80F but the glass surface might
> get much hotter than that, obviously...
>
> > It was definitely not salt deposits.
> > I assume you were using RO water?
>
> Whatever it is, it comes from the salt...
> I am using RO water and water is clear after mixing.
> It starts depositing white dust over time...
>
> When I took the cover loosely left over the bucket
> after two weeks I saw white deposits on the bucket
> walls, on the bottom and on the heater...
> Interestingly, heater had hard to wash deposits
> which came off when wiped with vinegear...
>
> > One thing that does show up in the salts, is clay.
> > This clay can be white, or brown. With a good salt
> > this is hardly noticeable, until many batches have
> > been made, and it starts building up.
>
> > The clay does not hurt anything, but it does not
> > look good.
>
> If it was clay, than I would never see clear water.
> Water stays clear for a time, than deposits
> start forming.
>
> The other idea I have is that in the summer time,
> when intense A/C and less air circulation causes
> bigger CO2 content in the air and this might
> cause Ca precipitation from the mixture somehow
> amplified with the heater...
> But this is only guessing since I have not done
> any chemical tests...
>
> BTW - I have used such old water in a reef tank
> and made it very milky for a day but water cleared
> up nicely next day or so... The effect is kind of
> similar to overdosing kalkwasser - white snow.

What a ****ing asshole.there is no clay in god damed sea salts
Wayne............Contrary to what the hell you nmay say its caclium or
other trace minerals.....duh duh duh duh duh! And contrary to what you
all th ink clay is used to clear up murky water too, that is collodial
clay.aka bentonite.duh............but its not clay in salat water you
idiot. And onmce its precipitated out, it will not go back into
solution so there fore iot is not the greatest crap to use in a reef
tank dickhead...................which is highly dependant on trace
minerals and calcium.............I stil think that Wayne Sallee is the
biggest asshole and wanna be knowit all but can;t find his own asshole
in the dark on the usenet.followed closely by homosexual
PSZEMOL..........................two ****ing idiots!

[Wayne Sallee]

Pszemol wrote on 9/2/2007 10:46 PM:
> "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message:
>>> I have left sal****er for a couple of weeks without
>>> movement, in the white plastic buckets left from
>>> IO salt and I see salt/calcium deposit on the bottom.
>>> When stirred it was like white milk.
>>>
>>> One thing it could be the problem that I left the heater
>>> in the bucket set for 80F... maybe heat has done it??
>>
>> High heat can precipitate calcium, but 80F is not hot.
>
> Heater is set for 80F but the glass surface might
> get much hotter than that, obviously...
>
>> It was definitely not salt deposits.
>> I assume you were using RO water?
>
> Whatever it is, it comes from the salt...
> I am using RO water and water is clear after mixing.
> It starts depositing white dust over time...
>
> When I took the cover loosely left over the bucket
> after two weeks I saw white deposits on the bucket
> walls, on the bottom and on the heater...
> Interestingly, heater had hard to wash deposits
> which came off when wiped with vinegear...

That would be calcium.


>
>> One thing that does show up in the salts, is clay. This clay can be
>> white, or brown. With a good salt this is hardly noticeable, until
>> many batches have been made, and it starts building up.
>>
>> The clay does not hurt anything, but it does not look good.
>
> If it was clay, than I would never see clear water.
> Water stays clear for a time, than deposits
> start forming.
>
> The other idea I have is that in the summer time,
> when intense A/C and less air circulation causes
> bigger CO2 content in the air and this might
> cause Ca precipitation from the mixture somehow
> amplified with the heater...
> But this is only guessing since I have not done
> any chemical tests...
>
> BTW - I have used such old water in a reef tank
> and made it very milky for a day but water cleared
> up nicely next day or so... The effect is kind of
> similar to overdosing kalkwasser - white snow.

Maybe the salt that you are using has an excess of
calcium. Have you tested newly made water for
calcium, and KH?

What brand of salt are you using?

Have you tested your ro to make sure that it's nice
an pure. Tap water will do that.

Wayne Sallee


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[Wayne Sallee]

Pszemol wrote on 9/2/2007 10:46 PM:
> "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message:
>>> I have left sal****er for a couple of weeks without
>>> movement, in the white plastic buckets left from
>>> IO salt and I see salt/calcium deposit on the
bottom.
>>> When stirred it was like white milk.
>>>
>>> One thing it could be the problem that I left
the heater
>>> in the bucket set for 80F... maybe heat has
done it??
>>
>> High heat can precipitate calcium, but 80F is
not hot.
>
> Heater is set for 80F but the glass surface might
> get much hotter than that, obviously...
>
>> It was definitely not salt deposits.
>> I assume you were using RO water?
>
> Whatever it is, it comes from the salt...
> I am using RO water and water is clear after mixing.
> It starts depositing white dust over time...
>
> When I took the cover loosely left over the bucket
> after two weeks I saw white deposits on the bucket
> walls, on the bottom and on the heater...
> Interestingly, heater had hard to wash deposits
> which came off when wiped with vinegear...

That would be calcium.


>
>> One thing that does show up in the salts, is
clay. This clay can be
>> white, or brown. With a good salt this is hardly
noticeable, until
>> many batches have been made, and it starts
building up.
>>
>> The clay does not hurt anything, but it does not
look good.
>
> If it was clay, than I would never see clear water.
> Water stays clear for a time, than deposits
> start forming.
>
> The other idea I have is that in the summer time,
> when intense A/C and less air circulation causes
> bigger CO2 content in the air and this might
> cause Ca precipitation from the mixture somehow
> amplified with the heater...
> But this is only guessing since I have not done
> any chemical tests...
>
> BTW - I have used such old water in a reef tank
> and made it very milky for a day but water cleared
> up nicely next day or so... The effect is kind of
> similar to overdosing kalkwasser - white snow.

Maybe the salt that you are using has an excess of
calcium. Have you tested newly made water for
calcium, and KH?

What brand of salt are you using?

Have you tested your ro to make sure that it's nice
an pure. Tap water will do that.

Wayne Sallee

[ttomjoly]

This is a good, forever. Shelf life without salt water. Some people think you have to keep portable pump water, but you do not know. However, you do To maintain a dry salt fresh.