Expensive bettas

[Reel McKoi[_9_]]

OK, I looked them up. They're crowns and deltas. ;-) The deltas are the
ones selling for $12.99. The crowns are half that where I live. The
regular bettas run $3.99 these days, the females $1.99.
--

RM....
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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[Tristie[_2_]]

On Sep 11, 4:44 pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
> OK, I looked them up. They're crowns and deltas. ;-) The deltas are the
> ones selling for $12.99. The crowns are half that where I live. The
> regular bettas run $3.99 these days, the females $1.99.
> --
>
> RM....
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> Zone 6. Middle TN USA
> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

The local Petco here has some rare bettas . The wife and I was looking
at them today.There are updside down fuzzys, all over fuzzies, and
half fuzzies, finless fuzzies and the new color bleached out and
fuzzy...Out of a total of 29 contianers of Bettas both crowns, males
and females, there was a grand total of 21 dead betta, with the
remaining 8 in pityfull condition.But , and I repeat.BUT the lcerk
said no problem as they are getting more in on Thursday if there was
none there that suited us today.....Some one really needs to burn that
Petco manager big time along with Petco for allowing such crap as
thjis to happen. SOmetimes its worst than Wally World when it comes to
fuzzy upside down and half there fish. I just love it when yu ask
them if they ever check the tanks and they say yea,k they check em
all day long........yet there is dead half eaten bodies inthere all
the time............I guess the correct question in stead of checking
the tanks is do yuou ever clean the dead and sick bodies out of the
tanks or just olet them there to create new breeds and provide
nutrition to the other tank residents.

[Telstar[_2_]]

"Reel McKoi" > wrote in message
...
> OK, I looked them up. They're crowns and deltas. ;-) The deltas are the
> ones selling for $12.99. The crowns are half that where I live. The
> regular bettas run $3.99 these days, the females $1.99.
> --
>
> RM....
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
> http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> Zone 6. Middle TN USA
> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>
>

If you think these are expensive, try a betta breeder. $90+ is common for
*potential* show specimens.

[Reel McKoi[_9_]]

"Tristie" > wrote in message
ups.com...

The local Petco here has some rare bettas . The wife and I was looking
at them today.There are updside down fuzzys, all over fuzzies, and
half fuzzies, finless fuzzies and the new color bleached out and
fuzzy...Out of a total of 29 contianers of Bettas both crowns, males
and females, there was a grand total of 21 dead betta, with the
remaining 8 in pityfull condition.

:-O OMG! That is sickening. The last place here that specialized in fuzzy
fish with that peculiar stench of decay closed their pet dept. some months
ago.

But , and I repeat.BUT the lcerk
said no problem as they are getting more in on Thursday if there was
none there that suited us today.....

Doesn't that just tick you off bigtime? They'll probably just dump the
decomposing departed out and pour the new ones in the same foul containers.
>:-(

Some one really needs to burn that
Petco manager big time along with Petco for allowing such crap as
thjis to happen. SOmetimes its worst than Wally World when it comes to
fuzzy upside down and half there fish. I just love it when yu ask
them if they ever check the tanks and they say yea,k they check em
all day long........yet there is dead half eaten bodies inthere all
the time............

We have (teenage) clerks like that at one of the stores here. I think only
the manager can tell the difference between the dead, the almost dead but
already fuzzy, the near dead gasping their last and the already skeletal
from the few that are still breathing.

I guess the correct question in stead of checking
the tanks is do yuou ever clean the dead and sick bodies out of the
tanks or just olet them there to create new breeds and provide
nutrition to the other tank residents.

LOL!!!! I know it's not funny but that had me laughing........ :-D
--

RM....
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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[Reel McKoi[_9_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
ups.com...

(Brevity snips)

>That's truly sad.
I hope you guys pointed out all the corpses to the manager before
leaving.
You should (if you haven't already) email the corp's customer service
at PetCo.com.
Explain what you saw and when.
They *do* get in touch with the store's manager about any problems a
customer has with a certain PetCo.

I did this constantly with Wal*Mart before they closed the live fish dept.
I would constantly call the store, then the district manager in Nashville.
I called them to report the horrid conditions of all the fish. Seldom was
anything done and any changes were always temporary. In the one store I
can't recall every going there and not seeing fish covered with ich and dead
furry ones stuck to the filter intakes or rotting on the bottom. When they
closed that dept. I was thrilled out of my mind.

>You just have to let the right person know what's going on.

And then you have to keep checking back as they change employees constantly.
--
RM....
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http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Reel McKoi[_9_]]

"Telstar" > wrote in message
...
> If you think these are expensive, try a betta breeder. $90+ is common for
> *potential* show specimens.
>
==========================
Yeah, I saw that on the Internet. For a breeder it pays to pay such prices
for an excellent specimen.
--

RM....
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Reel McKoi[_9_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
oups.com...
There was a PetLand that used to get the not so common fin variations
from a breeder, as well as what the wholesaler had.
This was a time yrs back when you *never* saw these fin types in
shops. You could only find the spindly, skinny, mass bred junk.

- - But there's always that "certain one" among the mass produced that
appeals. :-) They go right in my cart.

This particular PetLand had crowns that would knock your socks off, as
well as high quality Deltas.
They were also trying to get Halfmoons, but never did. The prices were
about the same as your 12.99 Delta.
Now a days you can sometimes find the nicer types tossed in a shipment
of regs at many stores.
I've seen a few nice Deltas in PetCo shipments, as well as being a not
so often seen color pattern, but only in the females. Never Delta
males.

- - You can buy both males and females here! Some of them were truly
beautiful nicely colored fish. If I were interested in breeding them I'd
find some nice fish to start with.

.......... That is of course if you haven't been
targeted by a certain Betta.....and he or she is coming home with you
no matter what you have to say about it.
Those types are called shady tricksters. You have to beware of them at
all times. You cannot deny them.
Resistance is futile.

- - Tell me about it! :-))

If you find that you have been the victim of one of these, may I
suggest frozen bloodworms to keep them happy at all times.
Freeze dried will not do at all, as they would take it as an insult to
them.
= )~

- - That reminds me, I've got to pick up frozen bloodworms next week when I
go back to Pet Supermarket for a replacement cory. Right now I have the
variety pack and that's real low also.
--

RM....
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Tristie[_2_]]

On Sep 12, 10:17 am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 6:37?pm, Tristie > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 11, 4:44 pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
>
> > > OK, I looked them up. ?They're crowns and deltas. ;-) ?The deltas are the
> > > ones selling for $12.99. ?The crowns are half that where I live. ?The
> > > regular bettas run $3.99 these days, the females $1.99.
> > > --
>
> > > RM....
> > > My Pond & Aquarium Pages:http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> > > Zone 6. ?Middle TN USA
> > > ~~~~ ?}<((((*> ?~~~ ? }<{{{{(?>
>
> > The local Petco here has some rare bettas . The wife and I was looking
> > at them today.There are updside down fuzzys, all over fuzzies, and
> > half fuzzies, finless fuzzies and the new color bleached out and
> > fuzzy...Out of a total of 29 contianers of Bettas both crowns, males
> > and females, there was a grand total of 21 dead betta, with the
> > remaining 8 in pityfull condition.But , and I repeat.BUT the lcerk
> > said no problem as they are getting more in on Thursday if there was
> > none there that suited us today.....Some one really needs to burn that
> > Petco manager big time along with Petco for allowing such crap as
> > thjis to happen. SOmetimes its worst than Wally World when it comes to
> > fuzzy upside down and half there fish. ?I just love it when yu ask
> > them if they ever check the tanks and they say yea,k they check em
> > all day long........yet there is dead half eaten bodies inthere all
> > the time............I guess the correct question in stead of checking
> > the tanks is do yuou ever clean the dead and sick bodies out of the
> > tanks or just olet them there to create new breeds and provide
> > nutrition to the other tank residents.
>
> That's truly sad.
> I hope you guys pointed out all the corpses to the manager before
> leaving.
> You should (if you haven't already) email the corp's customer service
> at PetCo.com.
> Explain what you saw and when.
> They *do* get in touch with the store's manager about any problems a
> customer has with a certain PetCo.
> I know this for a fact, as I've been contaced more than once about an
> email to the corp. regarding the conditions of their male Bettas, and
> a complete moron of an employee giving out really BAD info to clueless
> - newbie customer.
> The conditions of the betta containers were in better shape after I
> spoke with the head manager via phone.
> The company had changed from tiny cups to larger containers - almost
> twice the size of the original tiny cups they were in.
> This store didn't have the shelf space to house all the males on the
> *Betta Shelf* in the bigger containers.
> Mind you, these larger containers are still very small anyway.
> Again, I emailed the corp and in no time they were in their larger
> containers, and magically another shelf appeared. Poof! Room to house
> them all.
> The other time was regarding what I had over heard an employee telling
> a customer.
> The next time I was in he was again helping customers, but instead of
> bullcrappying them about something he didn't know, he said,"Hold
> on....let me get somebody who would know the answer to that."
> Sometimes with only a little effort on the customers part, changes for
> the better can happen.
> You just have to let the right person know what's going on.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Shut the **** up TYNK,. I am not replying to you nor do I wish to
reply to or have yu throw your worthless 2 cents into my replys as its
not gong to be be replied to by me, unless its a poke in your
worthless blind eyes......you worthless moron!

[Tristie[_2_]]

On Sep 12, 11:48 am, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
> "Tynk" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
> There was a PetLand that used to get the not so common fin variations
> from a breeder, as well as what the wholesaler had.
> This was a time yrs back when you *never* saw these fin types in
> shops. You could only find the spindly, skinny, mass bred junk.
>
> - - But there's always that "certain one" among the mass produced that
> appeals. :-) They go right in my cart.
>
> This particular PetLand had crowns that would knock your socks off, as
> well as high quality Deltas.
> They were also trying to get Halfmoons, but never did. The prices were
> about the same as your 12.99 Delta.
> Now a days you can sometimes find the nicer types tossed in a shipment
> of regs at many stores.
> I've seen a few nice Deltas in PetCo shipments, as well as being a not
> so often seen color pattern, but only in the females. Never Delta
> males.
>
> - - You can buy both males and females here! Some of them were truly
> beautiful nicely colored fish. If I were interested in breeding them I'd
> find some nice fish to start with.
>
> ......... That is of course if you haven't been
> targeted by a certain Betta.....and he or she is coming home with you
> no matter what you have to say about it.
> Those types are called shady tricksters. You have to beware of them at
> all times. You cannot deny them.
> Resistance is futile.
>
> - - Tell me about it! :-))
>
> If you find that you have been the victim of one of these, may I
> suggest frozen bloodworms to keep them happy at all times.
> Freeze dried will not do at all, as they would take it as an insult to
> them.
> = )~
>
> - - That reminds me, I've got to pick up frozen bloodworms next week when I
> go back to Pet Supermarket for a replacement cory. Right now I have the
> variety pack and that's real low also.
> --
>
> RM....
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> Zone 6. Middle TN USA
> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

I was actually escorted off Wal MArt property in town, and told that
if I returned I wuol dbe arrested for tresspassing. Localcops
actuaslly came and read me the riiot act, manager filed a complaint on
me and I was told to vacate the premisis.all due to their inept fish
keeping ability. I really raised holy hell with them. I even took pics
(so I told them) and that really got them in an uproar. I sent info to
PETA and mailed Wally World almost daily. I used to send my wife or
youngin inside to get more needed evidence............and from time to
time I would make a quick run through myself ;p) That store and one
more here no longer sells fish of any kind. I even turned them in for
the live lobsters conditions............They soon quit handling live
lobsters. I made out ok though as I eventually obtained the entire
tank setup that was in the one store, when by default the person that
originally happend to get it fell down and could not pick it up, I
managed to acquire it, as well as a temp[erature controlled live
lobster tank.all free for the picking up and hauling away. That is the
2nd set of tanks I have aquired, as I got an entire setup from a Petco
previously...........I have since sold the petco setup but still have
the Wal mart setup going strong. I use them for over winter housing of
my tropicals once I take em out of the preforms outside.

[[email protected]]

> Shut the **** up TYNK,. I am not replying to you nor do I wish to
> reply to or have yu throw your worthless 2 cents into my replys as its
> not gong to be be replied to by me, unless its a poke in your
> worthless blind eyes......you worthless moron!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[[email protected]]

On Sep 12, 1:26 pm, Tristie > wrote:

>Tynk... I am not replying to you nor do I wish to
>reply to or have yu throw your worthless 2 cents into my replys as its
>not gong to be be replied to by me, unless its a poke in your
>worthless blind eyes......you worthless moron!

Hey Tynk, at least you're _worth_ him replying to you. He seems to be
able to control this wild hair impulse with me. How did you become so
worthy? <wink>

>I was actually escorted off Wal MArt property in town, and told that
>if I returned I wuol dbe arrested for tresspassing. Localcops
>actuaslly came and read me the riiot act,

And this is suppose to _surprise_ us?

[Reel McKoi[_9_]]

"Tristie" > wrote in message
oups.com...

I was actually escorted off Wal MArt property in town, and told that
if I returned I wuol dbe arrested for tresspassing. Localcops
actuaslly came and read me the riiot act, manager filed a complaint on
me and I was told to vacate the premisis.all due to their inept fish
keeping ability.

- - I always spoke nicely to the manages but any changes were always
temporary. More than one manager told me their biggest problem is employees
lack of interest and knowledge of the fish they are assigned to care for.
They don't have knowledgeable people applying for the job. I suggest the
store pay a living wage and give people health benefits and perhaps they'd
find knowledgeable people and be able to keep them.

I really raised holy hell with them. I even took pics
(so I told them) and that really got them in an uproar. I sent info to
PETA and mailed Wally World almost daily. I used to send my wife or
youngin inside to get more needed evidence............and from time to
time I would make a quick run through myself ;p) That store and one
more here no longer sells fish of any kind. I even turned them in for
the live lobsters conditions............They soon quit handling live
lobsters. I made out ok though as I eventually obtained the entire
tank setup that was in the one store, when by default the person that
originally happend to get it fell down and could not pick it up, I
managed to acquire it, as well as a temp[erature controlled live
lobster tank.

- - Yes, I remember when you got those tanks. You really lucked out.

all free for the picking up and hauling away. That is the
2nd set of tanks I have aquired, as I got an entire setup from a Petco
previously...........I have since sold the petco setup but still have
the Wal mart setup going strong. I use them for over winter housing of
my tropicals once I take em out of the preforms outside.
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Tristie[_2_]]

On Sep 13, 10:05 am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Sep 12, 3:26?pm, Tristie > wrote:
>
> > I am not replying to you
>
> Well you should at least let the folks reading know if you if did
> something about finding so many dead Bettas, or just left and said
> nothing.
> Please try to act like a grown up.

**** you tynk, what I do is my business, not yours now is it? YOu
replied to the post I made, its not hard to see that. you babbling
moron..............TYNK the chick with a dick is a butthole maggot. I
could care less if all the fish in the lfs were floating belly up and
nice and fuzzy. As long as I am not butying the things I could care
less, and I have better sources to buy decent fish than at these kinds
of places anyhow dumbass!

[Reel McKoi[_9_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
ups.com...

This was the situation at 3 local Walmart stores in the surrounding
towns.
They were disgusting, all of them. No one knew anything about fish,
and before 1 of the stores became fish only, they did horrid things to
the Hamsters. That same store also did things like put an entire
shipment of male Bettas into one tank because...and I quote the pet
dept. manager whom I was complaining to......"If you put a bunch of
them into the same tank, they don't fight."
He said this as several males were ripping each other's fins apart. I
pointed to chaos and said "Like that, right?"
I called for the store manager, and explained what this idiot is doing
with the male Bettas (weekly!), and that he even started to yell at me
when I insisted that they be put into separate tanks, etc etc...the
store manager turns to the pet dept. manager who is all steamed up at
me, gets told off good by the head manager because he knew that you
don't ever put male Bettas together and why and on and on (It was
great to witness that after a couple weeks of this guy doing it), and
how they needed to be put into separate tanks right away....the next
week all the males were in different tanks, none with Goldfish, and
the idiot king was no longer the pet dept. manager. He was moved to a
different part of the store.
The store manager must have looked into this guy's background in the
department a little closer. A while before this was happening with the
bettas, they were with holding food and water from all the hamsters
and piggies. The reason I was told by employees was that they don't
mess the cages up so much (pee and poo). They also kept the males and
female mixed in together, as well as way too many per cage. The
conditions were cruel.
The store manager wasn't there, niether was the department manager,
and since no body in authority was available to speak to, I had to
call the 800# and explain this to customer service.
I went there later the next evening and they were all gone.
All the birds, all the hammies, and piggies too.
Just fish now.
They have no business dealing with pets anyway, just supplies.
The other Walmart, which was a fish only store from the time they
opened a couple yrs ago, never figured out how to take any sort of
care of fish, or the filtration system, how to *not* gobs of food per
tank, why not to turn off the filters, why you should remove the dead,
and how to clean those cups the male Bettas are in. An inch of brown
water is never a good thing.
A few weeks ago they took down their fish tanks. YEA!!!
No fish at all, not even Bettas in little cups anymore.

I have had (usually no luck when dealing with Walmart's customer
service, except that one terrible store's head manager.
If that particular guy was on duty or got the message about the
situation, it was handled right away.
Any other human in charge in that same store never did anything.
PetCo online complaints seem to get taken seriously when you give them
contact infoformation.
The times when I left my info, it got handled. I could opt for a call
back or not. Sometimes I did, but mostly not.
Being that I'm able to check the local stores weekly for their stock,
I see changes right away.

The last time I was in one of the local PetCo's I tried to alert the
clerk that they had a double rayed crown tail female in a male's
container...and were charging a male's CT's prive (much higher).
The females are all the same cost, no matter the fin type, but male
CT's are more than the veils.
The lady took it to the back room and came back and said,
"Nope....it's a male."
I explained to her that I was a long time breeder, and I'm 100%
positive that that fish is a female , double rayed - crown tail. It's
also has an obvious egg tube showing"...as I point to the egg tube....
She then goes on with her chin up (for real, like snobby) and said
"Well my fish expert says it's a male."
I chuckled and told her "Tell your fish "expert" that male Bettas
don't have obvious egg tubes." = )~
I just hope she did tell her "expert" what I said, because maybe then
they would look and see that yes....there is something there and
learn.
========================
I remember when they sold hamsters and birds. The birds would be dead on
the bottom with no water or filthy water, no food or the wrong food. Others
would be puffed up and even a blind person could see they were sick.
Hamsters and white mice crammed together like sardines. Sometimes walking
over the dead ones.... no one cared. It's not really fair of WW to hire
people with no interest in pets or fish and expect them to care for them
humanely and properly. It's just not going to happen. I'm really thrilled
that they stopped selling live things. I hope they did this Nationwide.

As for trying to educate anyone in these stores..... don't waste your time.
The clerk there today will be gone tomorrow and couldn't care less if they
tried.
--
RM....
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Tristie[_2_]]

On Sep 13, 6:39 pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
> "Tynk" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
> This was the situation at 3 local Walmart stores in the surrounding
> towns.
> They were disgusting, all of them. No one knew anything about fish,
> and before 1 of the stores became fish only, they did horrid things to
> the Hamsters. That same store also did things like put an entire
> shipment of male Bettas into one tank because...and I quote the pet
> dept. manager whom I was complaining to......"If you put a bunch of
> them into the same tank, they don't fight."
> He said this as several males were ripping each other's fins apart. I
> pointed to chaos and said "Like that, right?"
> I called for the store manager, and explained what this idiot is doing
> with the male Bettas (weekly!), and that he even started to yell at me
> when I insisted that they be put into separate tanks, etc etc...the
> store manager turns to the pet dept. manager who is all steamed up at
> me, gets told off good by the head manager because he knew that you
> don't ever put male Bettas together and why and on and on (It was
> great to witness that after a couple weeks of this guy doing it), and
> how they needed to be put into separate tanks right away....the next
> week all the males were in different tanks, none with Goldfish, and
> the idiot king was no longer the pet dept. manager. He was moved to a
> different part of the store.
> The store manager must have looked into this guy's background in the
> department a little closer. A while before this was happening with the
> bettas, they were with holding food and water from all the hamsters
> and piggies. The reason I was told by employees was that they don't
> mess the cages up so much (pee and poo). They also kept the males and
> female mixed in together, as well as way too many per cage. The
> conditions were cruel.
> The store manager wasn't there, niether was the department manager,
> and since no body in authority was available to speak to, I had to
> call the 800# and explain this to customer service.
> I went there later the next evening and they were all gone.
> All the birds, all the hammies, and piggies too.
> Just fish now.
> They have no business dealing with pets anyway, just supplies.
> The other Walmart, which was a fish only store from the time they
> opened a couple yrs ago, never figured out how to take any sort of
> care of fish, or the filtration system, how to *not* gobs of food per
> tank, why not to turn off the filters, why you should remove the dead,
> and how to clean those cups the male Bettas are in. An inch of brown
> water is never a good thing.
> A few weeks ago they took down their fish tanks. YEA!!!
> No fish at all, not even Bettas in little cups anymore.
>
> I have had (usually no luck when dealing with Walmart's customer
> service, except that one terrible store's head manager.
> If that particular guy was on duty or got the message about the
> situation, it was handled right away.
> Any other human in charge in that same store never did anything.
> PetCo online complaints seem to get taken seriously when you give them
> contact infoformation.
> The times when I left my info, it got handled. I could opt for a call
> back or not. Sometimes I did, but mostly not.
> Being that I'm able to check the local stores weekly for their stock,
> I see changes right away.
>
> The last time I was in one of the local PetCo's I tried to alert the
> clerk that they had a double rayed crown tail female in a male's
> container...and were charging a male's CT's prive (much higher).
> The females are all the same cost, no matter the fin type, but male
> CT's are more than the veils.
> The lady took it to the back room and came back and said,
> "Nope....it's a male."
> I explained to her that I was a long time breeder, and I'm 100%
> positive that that fish is a female , double rayed - crown tail. It's
> also has an obvious egg tube showing"...as I point to the egg tube....
> She then goes on with her chin up (for real, like snobby) and said
> "Well my fish expert says it's a male."
> I chuckled and told her "Tell your fish "expert" that male Bettas
> don't have obvious egg tubes." = )~
> I just hope she did tell her "expert" what I said, because maybe then
> they would look and see that yes....there is something there and
> learn.
> ========================
> I remember when they sold hamsters and birds. The birds would be dead on
> the bottom with no water or filthy water, no food or the wrong food. Others
> would be puffed up and even a blind person could see they were sick.
> Hamsters and white mice crammed together like sardines. Sometimes walking
> over the dead ones.... no one cared. It's not really fair of WW to hire
> people with no interest in pets or fish and expect them to care for them
> humanely and properly. It's just not going to happen. I'm really thrilled
> that they stopped selling live things. I hope they did this Nationwide.
>
> As for trying to educate anyone in these stores..... don't waste your time.
> The clerk there today will be gone tomorrow and couldn't care less if they
> tried.
> --
> RM....
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> Zone 6. Middle TN USA
> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

Evidently that female betta was suffering from what our resident
moron TYNK is afflicted with...........Gender dysphoria!

[Tristie[_2_]]

On Sep 14, 9:59 am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Sep 13, 7:06?pm, Tristie > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Evidently that female betta was suffering from what our resident
> > moron ?TYNK is afflicted with...........Gender dysphoria!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Obviously you missed the entire point.
> It was an OBVIOUS female. There was nothing male about it.
> It was simply a female version of a crown tail and their "fish expert"
> didn't know what one looked like. Maybe that's simple enough for you
> to understand now.
>
> P.S....I have no "gender dysphoria". That's your game.

Suck my dick TYNK......just like you do to those guys on the street
corner..when you turn a trick! Better yet take a ****ing
hike ..........I know I own yuo but that does not mean I need to put
yup with your bull**** either now does it? Dance you stupid puppet
dance..

[Tristie[_2_]]

On Sep 14, 1:24 pm, Tynk > wrote:
> On Sep 14, 10:55?am, Tristie > wrote:
>
> *Nonsense and childish behavior deleted*
>
> I know I own yuo but that does not mean I need to put
>
> > yup with your bull**** either now does it? ?>
>
> The only person you "own" is yourself.
>
> I have no bull**** for you to put up with.
> You're the one playing games, no body else.
> If you don't want to have a grown up conversation with me, then simply
> do not reply.

She / he / it knows deep down she is nothing but a two bit "ho" from
the git go and can not stand for anyone to know more than her. She can
not refuse to reply to any post made, as she enoys the attention she
gleems form it. TYNK is a ****tard, nothing more. I own "it" plain and
simple and its driving her nuts.She is obsessed with replying to
defend her so called "honor" duh, and duh again

[Tristie[_2_]]

On Sep 17, 12:02 am, Tynk > wrote:
> PetCo had more nice Crown tail males yesterday.
> I picked up 2.
> Both are very pretty cambodian mixes.
> I also picked up 3 females. 2 long finned, and one veil. All are
> cambodian mixes as well.
> One of the females has a lot of red over blue so it appears purple
> here and there.
> The other 2 are mostly white, with one being more opaque.
> One of the males has white opaque in him and baby blue splashes.
>
> How's your fish doing RM?
> Any Bettas yet?

Why not post in a group where they give a **** TYNK.............no
one wants to associate with a chick with a dick in a decent group like
this. Your like a fish out of water..............

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> PetCo had more nice Crown tail males yesterday.
> I picked up 2.
> Both are very pretty cambodian mixes.
> I also picked up 3 females. 2 long finned, and one veil. All are
> cambodian mixes as well.
> One of the females has a lot of red over blue so it appears purple
> here and there.
> The other 2 are mostly white, with one being more opaque.
> One of the males has white opaque in him and baby blue splashes.
>
> How's your fish doing RM?
> Any Bettas yet?
=========================
No, but it sounds like you found some nice ones. I bet you're going to
breed them. How can you not? ;-)))

I was very dissapointed today at PetsMart. They hadn't gotten anything new
in (in over 2 weeks) and I saw a lot of those "fuzzy" fish. You know the
ones, they like to stick to the intake pipe and give off strange aromas.
And their prices are .50 to a dollar higher, per fish, than PetSupermarket.
The usual employees were gone. It was a whole new crew.

The bettas were the dregs of whatever they got in several weeks ago. I
should have picked up one or two then. Nothing I would want to bring home
was there today. All I left there with was a nice clump of water-wisteria.

I'm waiting to find 2 or three nice clown loaches but Ich is such a problem
with them. What do you find safe to use on CLs if they turn up with Ich?
--
RM....
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"St. Clair" > wrote in message
...
> Maracide will work. A common misnomer is Clown Loaches are scaleless,
> thus needing different care. However, they do have small scales.
>
> Hope this helps,
======================
Have you ever tried Quick Cure or Aqurasol on them? I always have these on
hand but was told QC is a harsh cure and Aqurasol not very effective. Any
opinions on these two for loaches? I ask because I want to have the cure on
hand before I buy them and bring them home.
--
RM....
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> IMO, stick with Quick Cure (half dosage). Aquarisol is so weak, it's
> not much good for anything.
> Some hobbyists use Aquarisol as a preventative at all times in their
> tanks. I'm on the side of the fence that no medication should be used
> like that. The less chemicals the better.
> Dosing with meds should always be a last resort, but in certain cases
> it's a must.
===========================
Where I live it's a given that CLs will come down with Ich as soon as you
put them in your tank. I'm hoping they get some nice clowns in next week.
I'll start with 2, then maybe add 2 more now that the reg' pleco is gone.
--
RM....
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> For Ich in general, I perfer Quick Cure. For Clown Loaches with Ich,
> the dosage must be cut in half.
> I also treat for 7 days. not like the 2-3 days it says on the bottle.
> That way all stages of the parasite are killed off.
==========================
Will do, thanks. ;-)
--

RM....
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Tristie[_2_]]

On Sep 18, 5:30 pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
> "Tynk" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...> For Ich in general, I perfer Quick Cure. For Clown Loaches with Ich,
> > the dosage must be cut in half.
> > I also treat for 7 days. not like the 2-3 days it says on the bottle.
> > That way all stages of the parasite are killed off.
>
> ==========================
> Will do, thanks. ;-)
> --
>
> RM....
> Zone 6. Middle TN USA
> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

Tynks a dumbass, it takes more than 7 days to kill off all stages of
ICH.thats why most of the ich products have regimines for up to 2 or 3
weeks or more.

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Tristie" > wrote in message
ups.com...

Tynks a dumbass, it takes more than 7 days to kill off all stages of
ICH.thats why most of the ich products have regimines for up to 2 or 3
weeks or more.
======================
They're going into a quarantine tank at 82F for 21 days so I can watch them
closely. Treatment would continue until they're Ich free for at least a
week. I'm projecting as they may not be infested. The shops here are very
good about selling Ich free fish. Only one mom & pop shop are well known
for their Ichy fish and I seldom go there. When I do it's just to look, not
to buy.
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> 2 weeks is the general quarantine, so a 3 week is only better. = )
> Don't forget that they'll need shelter and hiding places in the
> quarantine tank.

I have one of those aquarium barrels the last trio loved. I'm also going to
pick up a few bits of PVC they can feel secure in.

> The easiest way to tame new Clowns is to hand feed them bloodworms (I
> use a medicine dropper). They be coming right up to you in no time.
> Being more relaxed goes along way with keeping Clowns healthy (or
> getting them back into health).

The last ones I had thrived. And yep, I usually have bloodworms on hand and
other frozen goodies for the fish. :-)

> Clowns that are tame don't freak out and dash off to hide when
> somebody moves in the same room as their tank.
> They can easily get scratched when freaking out. All that and the
> stress of being new makes for a good invitation for Ich to move in.

They're going to love the sunroom. It's the least used room in the house.
It's just for my plants and fish. No noise and little traffic - I'm the
traffic! To them: Me = FOOD! :-D
--

RM....
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Tristie[_2_]]

On Sep 20, 9:24 am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Sep 19, 11:23?am, "Reel McKoi" >
> wrote:
>
> > They're going to love the sunroom. It's the least used room in the house.
> > It's just for my plants and fish. No noise and little traffic - I'm the
> > traffic! To them: Me = FOOD! :-D
> > --
>
> Sounds lovely.
> How many tanks do you have going in it now?
> (and of course what's in them all, hehe)

**** you TYNK. According to your ****ing rules its ok for you to
interject into my posts but not me into yours..|**** you TYNK and the
****ing Mustang GT you give blow jobs in! Did I say **** you TYNK? if
not here it is again **** you TYNK along with your dick you
transexual freak! And no its not a melt down.....TYNK the chick with
a dick.how quaint!

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Sep 19, 11:23?am, "Reel McKoi" >
> wrote:
>
>> They're going to love the sunroom. It's the least used room in the house.
>> It's just for my plants and fish. No noise and little traffic - I'm the
>> traffic! To them: Me = FOOD! :-D
>> --
>
>
> Sounds lovely.
> How many tanks do you have going in it now?
> (and of course what's in them all, hehe)
==============================
Right now there's the 5g with my male blue betta. There's the 55g of mixed
tropicals. There's the second 55g which is now empty, right next to it. I'm
not sure what I'm going to put in it - if anything. Then in the dining-room
I have the 10g with the celestial GF and 2 ottos. This also serves as a
hospital tank and quarantine tank.

The outside fish take a lot of my time and energy. I still have about 200
koi fry I was unable to sell this summer. My area is becoming saturated with
koi.
--

RM....
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Tristie[_2_]]

On Sep 20, 9:49 am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Sep 20, 9:32?am, Tristie > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 20, 9:24 am, Tynk > wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 19, 11:23?am, "Reel McKoi" >
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > They're going to love the sunroom. It's the least used room in the house.
> > > > It's just for my plants and fish. No noise and little traffic - I'm the
> > > > traffic! To them: Me = FOOD! :-D
> > > > --
>
> > > Sounds lovely.
> > > How many tanks do you have going in it now?
> > > (and of course what's in them all, hehe)
>
> > **** you TYNK. According to your ****ing rules its ok for you to
> > interject into my posts but not me into yours..|**** you TYNK and the
> > ****ing Mustang GT you give blow jobs in! Did I say **** you TYNK? if
> > not here it is again **** you TYNK along with your dick you
> > transexual freak! And no its not a melt down.....TYNK the chick with
> > a dick.how quaint!
>
> = /
> Oh sweetie, did I say something that ticked you off?
>
> Get over it already baby boy. Nobody cares for your tantrums anymore.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

**** you tynk! Tynk the chick with a dick ............aka transexual
pervert.and member of Gills hate group.