Dave's goldfish still hanging in there (dropsy)

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Not much change in the past couple days.
Still very bloated with pineconing.

But she is still eating and pooping.
Ammonia, nitrites and nitrates still ok.
Still using mayacyn 2 antibiotic in the water, but that will end in
another 2-3 days.
Never did find any romet B medicated food. You would think that
_someone_ would carry it.
Still keeping the water temp at 85-87 degrees.

She is perky at times, and lethargic at other times. Not hiding.
Usually swims out to see me when I get near.

First symptoms (popeye and red spots & streaks, hiding and not
eating) appeared in mid-August. See 8-22-07 post.

Those started clearing up quite well.

Full-blown dropsy appeared on 9-5. (bloating and pineconing.)
These occurred very quickly, overnight.

Got rid of salt in water and quarentined her in her own tank.

Added epsom salt and mayacyn-2 antibiotic. Increased aeration.
Bought a heater and raised temp of water to 85-87 degrees. (It was
74-78 in original tank, with major fluctuations as house temp
changed. Ranged from high 60's to high 70's. No heater in original
tank.)

Currently, water changes and constant monitoring of ammonia,
nitrite and nitrates.

Possible causes: dropsy can be caused by __many__ things,
including parasites, bacterial, __ bad water__ , major water temp
changes, and more.

Probable cause: my fault in not doing water changes often
enough. Tank had very high nitrate, although nitrites and ammonia
were both zero. I did not realize nitrates were so dangerous. Now I
do.

If anyone new to goldfish-keeping reads this, please be very
aware that ammonia, nitrites _AND_ nitrates can all kill. And
use a water heater set at a constant temp, so that there are no major
water temp changes
Good bio filtering gets rid of ammonia and nitrites, but
apparently the best way to get rid of nitrates is through water
changes. Don't neglect them!

Finally, __thank you__ Dr. Solo. Your information has kept
goldie alive so far. Its now been about a month. Whether she pulls
through or not, she has given it all she has.

Now, _where_ can I find romet B antibiotic food?

Dave123 (still learning)

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medicated food
http://www.goldfishconnection.com/shop/listing.php?parentId=5

it isnt romet, but it is medicated.

Make your own med food.
Find some kanacin kanacyn can't remember who makes it maybe Seachem
but then take the capsule and split it into 4 parts. Take one part in
a 1/4 cup of water and soak food for about 2-3 minutes and feed fish.
You can also do the water born prolonged bath with this medication as
well as feeding the food but follow the alternating 3 treatment method
on the PG site. This med food must be mixed fresh daily as it spoils
quickly and feed for a max of 10 days. Hope this helps when you can't
locate the necessary meds always opt for a method to feed the med food
to your fish.
JA

http://www.aquatichouse.com/Medications_Files/seachemmedications.asp

it is seachem makes the med. I think you can get this in your local
pet store. Ingrid

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:03:29 -0400, wrote:

>Not much change in the past couple days.
> Still very bloated with pineconing.
>
>But she is still eating and pooping.
> Ammonia, nitrites and nitrates still ok.
> Still using mayacyn 2 antibiotic in the water, but that will end in
>another 2-3 days.
> Never did find any romet B medicated food. You would think that
>_someone_ would carry it.
> Still keeping the water temp at 85-87 degrees.
>
> She is perky at times, and lethargic at other times. Not hiding.
>Usually swims out to see me when I get near.
>
> First symptoms (popeye and red spots & streaks, hiding and not
>eating) appeared in mid-August. See 8-22-07 post.
>
> Those started clearing up quite well.
>
> Full-blown dropsy appeared on 9-5. (bloating and pineconing.)
>These occurred very quickly, overnight.
>
> Got rid of salt in water and quarentined her in her own tank.
>
> Added epsom salt and mayacyn-2 antibiotic. Increased aeration.
>Bought a heater and raised temp of water to 85-87 degrees. (It was
>74-78 in original tank, with major fluctuations as house temp
>changed. Ranged from high 60's to high 70's. No heater in original
>tank.)
>
> Currently, water changes and constant monitoring of ammonia,
>nitrite and nitrates.
>
> Possible causes: dropsy can be caused by __many__ things,
>including parasites, bacterial, __ bad water__ , major water temp
>changes, and more.
>
> Probable cause: my fault in not doing water changes often
>enough. Tank had very high nitrate, although nitrites and ammonia
>were both zero. I did not realize nitrates were so dangerous. Now I
>do.
>
> If anyone new to goldfish-keeping reads this, please be very
>aware that ammonia, nitrites _AND_ nitrates can all kill. And
>use a water heater set at a constant temp, so that there are no major
>water temp changes
> Good bio filtering gets rid of ammonia and nitrites, but
>apparently the best way to get rid of nitrates is through water
>changes. Don't neglect them!
>
> Finally, __thank you__ Dr. Solo. Your information has kept
>goldie alive so far. Its now been about a month. Whether she pulls
>through or not, she has given it all she has.
>
> Now, _where_ can I find romet B antibiotic food?
>
> Dave123 (still learning)

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pineconing should start coming down around 10-14 days. Ingrid