Using electricity to catch fish out of a decorated tank...

[Günther De Vogelaere]

When biologists try to chart the fishpopulation in open water, they often
use electricity to stun the fish.
Maybe this is a silly question, did anyone ever use/try electricity to catch
their (sick) fish out of a fully decorated tank?
Would this be a good idea? What current/voltage should be used?

[The Madd Hatter]

I can't imagine it doing much good to a fish thats already sick... Odds are
you will probably end up frying them all. Do it the old fashioned way and
net them out...

"Günther De Vogelaere" > wrote in
message ...
> When biologists try to chart the fishpopulation in open water, they often
> use electricity to stun the fish.
> Maybe this is a silly question, did anyone ever use/try electricity to
catch
> their (sick) fish out of a fully decorated tank?
> Would this be a good idea? What current/voltage should be used?
>
>

[bassett]

It,s very complex working out the voltage, so we just use Dynamite


Günther De Vogelaere > wrote in
message
> When biologists try to chart the fishpopulation in open water, they often
> use electricity to stun the fish.
> Maybe this is a silly question, did anyone ever use/try electricity to
catch
> their (sick) fish out of a fully decorated tank?
> Would this be a good idea? What current/voltage should be used?
>
>

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On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:14:54 GMT, "Günther De Vogelaere"
> wrote:

>When biologists try to chart the fishpopulation in open water, they often
>use electricity to stun the fish.
>Maybe this is a silly question, did anyone ever use/try electricity to catch
>their (sick) fish out of a fully decorated tank?
>Would this be a good idea? What current/voltage should be used?
>

The shocks used to stun fish are fairly intense. The distribution of
current flow throughout the water is between the electrodes but quite
a wide spread. Many variables are involved. Water conductance varies
hugely depending on dissolved salts. It would be very difficult to
isolate a single fish.


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[RedForeman ©®]

it may seem like it's impossible, but I also imagine that we've all had that
problem.... and sometimes, it's just a necessary evil that is involved with
our hobby.... gotta do what you gotta do....

I use several buckets, each one for a different item, rocks, plants, wood...
the drain half or less of the water, and dive in with a net.... sometimes
two.. I've even used rocks and built a corner around the culprit.... that
seemed to work... except on my 13" pl*co.... he jumped right over it... and
splashed me as to say, "Ha ha...."




"Günther De Vogelaere" > wrote in
message ...
> :)
>
> I know my suggestion seems to be ludricous but if you ever had to remove
> every single stone out of a tank in order to be able to catch a fish that
> was hidding all the time, it seems to make more sense.
>
> "bassett" > wrote in message
> ...
> > It,s very complex working out the voltage, so we just use Dynamite
> >
> >
> > Günther De Vogelaere > wrote in
> > message
> > > When biologists try to chart the fishpopulation in open water, they
> often
> > > use electricity to stun the fish.
> > > Maybe this is a silly question, did anyone ever use/try electricity to
> > catch
> > > their (sick) fish out of a fully decorated tank?
> > > Would this be a good idea? What current/voltage should be used?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[GrlIntrpted]

HUH! Ever try to net out a Pacu? Though my two Pacus are quite healthy I
need to get them out of the tank, they are simply too large, they don't look
right, and they make the rest of the fish population very nervous with their
attempts at out dominating each other, by tagging each other sideways. If I
ever catch these two 'freaks', I'll bring them to Petland Discount, let them
find a good home for them.

Mariana

"The Madd Hatter" > wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
> I can't imagine it doing much good to a fish thats already sick... Odds
are
> you will probably end up frying them all. Do it the old fashioned way and
> net them out...
>
> "Günther De Vogelaere" > wrote in
> message ...
> > When biologists try to chart the fishpopulation in open water, they
often
> > use electricity to stun the fish.
> > Maybe this is a silly question, did anyone ever use/try electricity to
> catch
> > their (sick) fish out of a fully decorated tank?
> > Would this be a good idea? What current/voltage should be used?
> >
> >
>
>

[NetMax]

"Günther De Vogelaere" > wrote
in message ...
> When biologists try to chart the fishpopulation in open water, they
often
> use electricity to stun the fish.
> Maybe this is a silly question, did anyone ever use/try electricity to
catch
> their (sick) fish out of a fully decorated tank?
> Would this be a good idea? What current/voltage should be used?

The probability of finding the correct voltage/current ratio is very low,
while the probability of electrocuting yourself is quite high.

Lateral thinking. Do not chase the fish into a trap. Lure it. Select
an appropriately sized container (a pail standing in the water), and
always feed such that the fish need to go into the pail to eat. Do this
for a few days and then drop some bottom feeder pellets in so they have
to go to the bottom and lift the pail. Then scoop or net out the ones
you don't want.

Catching a fish in it's element is very difficult, and with enough
shelters, futile. Besides traps, accustom the fish to 2 large nets which
you leave in the water. After a few days (or perhaps hours), they are
swimming in & out of them. While pre-occupied with feeding, gently move
one net towards the other. Fish will always move away from the moving
object, backing into the stationary net. The trick is moving v e r y v
e r y slowly, and sometimes a small burst of speed (depending on how
suspicious they are).

Another technique is to place a large stone in the front corner of the
tank (with enough space for fish to swim around it). Then park a
stationary net on the side of the rock opposite the corner. Using a
chaser net, herd all the fish into a pack and push them along the back
and around the corner into the waiting net. In a crowd, the back fish
don't see the net and they push the front fish forwards, who are unable
to effectively turn around when they see the net. This works in heavily
planted tanks, but not in heavily rocked tanks.

Another technique (good for rocky tanks and aggressive eaters) is to hold
the net tight (no slack in the material) and when the fish come up to
feed, you do a quick dip into the water. It's all in the wrist action.
You really need to have the cover off and the fish need to be accustomed
to being fed with no cover, or they will be too suspicious.

Using these techniques, and other variations, I catch about 70 fish per
day out of heavily decorated tanks. The worst fish to catch....
Leporanus, with Pacus a close 2nd place. With both of these fish, I use
2 nets and basically manoeuvre them so the fish will stumble into the
large stationary net, while evading the smaller chase net. Leporanus
take 1st place because they achieve the longest airborne distances ;~)
The Pacus take 2nd place as they tend to keep going, even after being
netted! Both usually give me a shower unless I quickly grab them.

NetMax

[The Madd Hatter]

I used to keep snakeheads, clown knifes, oscars and garpikes, among other
baddies in a tank together,... nettingthem was no problem... Just gottahave
a big enough net

"GrlIntrpted" > wrote in message
.net...
> HUH! Ever try to net out a Pacu? Though my two Pacus are quite healthy I
> need to get them out of the tank, they are simply too large, they don't
look
> right, and they make the rest of the fish population very nervous with
their
> attempts at out dominating each other, by tagging each other sideways. If
I
> ever catch these two 'freaks', I'll bring them to Petland Discount, let
them
> find a good home for them.
>
> Mariana
>
> "The Madd Hatter" > wrote in message
> e.rogers.com...
> > I can't imagine it doing much good to a fish thats already sick... Odds
> are
> > you will probably end up frying them all. Do it the old fashioned way
and
> > net them out...
> >
> > "Günther De Vogelaere" > wrote
in
> > message ...
> > > When biologists try to chart the fishpopulation in open water, they
> often
> > > use electricity to stun the fish.
> > > Maybe this is a silly question, did anyone ever use/try electricity to
> > catch
> > > their (sick) fish out of a fully decorated tank?
> > > Would this be a good idea? What current/voltage should be used?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>