Re: Activated carbon reactor

[Tynk[_2_]]

On Oct 4, 3:29?pm, "Pszemol" > wrote:
> "Pszemol" > wrote in ...
> > "Pszemol" > wrote in ...
> >> Other than hanging a bag filled with carbon in the sump,
> >> what do you use to make carbon work more efficiently?
>
> >> Tha idea with a bag works, but in my understanding
> >> water would penetrate carbon better if it was flowing
> >> forced through not around the bag...
>
> >> I was trying to put a layer of carbon in the phosphate
> >> reactor, but carbon is very light and it is easily
> >> lifted up with water and travels back to my tank...
>
> >> How do you put carbon to work in your reef tanks?
>
> > Now I have an idea... what if I dump the carbon loose
> > into the sock in the sump? The sock I am using is quite
> > fine to prevent carbon escaping to the sump and the
> > water is pretty well agitated in the sock so the carbon
> > will work efficiently there...
> > The sock lasts about a week or two before it clogs
> > with dirt, so I could dump the sock with used up carbon
> > to the garbagge and put new sock with new carbon portion.
> > Sounds like a good idea - have to test it :-)
>
> This is the stupidest idea ever :-)
>
> I tested it and it caused carbon in the sock to turn
> into a microparticles (crushed) and passed through
> the sock coloring my water and covering everything
> with black dust... Do not try it at home :-)))

My husband suggested placing the carbon
in a condom. That way the dust does not
seep into the water.

[TSJ]

On Oct 7, 10:36 am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Oct 4, 3:29?pm, "Pszemol" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Pszemol" > wrote in ...
> > > "Pszemol" > wrote in ...
> > >> Other than hanging a bag filled with carbon in the sump,
> > >> what do you use to make carbon work more efficiently?
>
> > >> Tha idea with a bag works, but in my understanding
> > >> water would penetrate carbon better if it was flowing
> > >> forced through not around the bag...
>
> > >> I was trying to put a layer of carbon in the phosphate
> > >> reactor, but carbon is very light and it is easily
> > >> lifted up with water and travels back to my tank...
>
> > >> How do you put carbon to work in your reef tanks?
>
> > > Now I have an idea... what if I dump the carbon loose
> > > into the sock in the sump? The sock I am using is quite
> > > fine to prevent carbon escaping to the sump and the
> > > water is pretty well agitated in the sock so the carbon
> > > will work efficiently there...
> > > The sock lasts about a week or two before it clogs
> > > with dirt, so I could dump the sock with used up carbon
> > > to the garbagge and put new sock with new carbon portion.
> > > Sounds like a good idea - have to test it :-)
>
> > This is the stupidest idea ever :-)
>
> > I tested it and it caused carbon in the sock to turn
> > into a microparticles (crushed) and passed through
> > the sock coloring my water and covering everything
> > with black dust... Do not try it at home :-)))
>
> My husband suggested placing the carbon
> in a condom. That way the dust does not
> seep into the water.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Talk about a stupid idea. Placing carbon in a
condom................duh............it would be basically out of play
and do not good.May as well leave the carbon in a zip lock baggie.

[Dick]

On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 01:20:31 -0500, "Jeffrey St. Clair, Ph.D."
> wrote:

>These days, carbon is pretty much recommended only to remove meds from
>water. The cons outwiegh the pros, such as it doesn't filter microbes,
>nitrates, sodium or flouride. It also lowers dissolved oxygen levels
>significantly and also filters out needed elements, such as trace elements.
>
>"Tynk" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>> On Oct 4, 3:29?pm, "Pszemol" > wrote:
>>> "Pszemol" > wrote in
>>> ...
>>> > "Pszemol" > wrote in
>>> > ...
>>> >> Other than hanging a bag filled with carbon in the sump,
>>> >> what do you use to make carbon work more efficiently?
>>>
>>> >> Tha idea with a bag works, but in my understanding
>>> >> water would penetrate carbon better if it was flowing
>>> >> forced through not around the bag...
>>>
>>> >> I was trying to put a layer of carbon in the phosphate
>>> >> reactor, but carbon is very light and it is easily
>>> >> lifted up with water and travels back to my tank...
>>>
>>> >> How do you put carbon to work in your reef tanks?
>>>
>>> > Now I have an idea... what if I dump the carbon loose
>>> > into the sock in the sump? The sock I am using is quite
>>> > fine to prevent carbon escaping to the sump and the
>>> > water is pretty well agitated in the sock so the carbon
>>> > will work efficiently there...
>>> > The sock lasts about a week or two before it clogs
>>> > with dirt, so I could dump the sock with used up carbon
>>> > to the garbagge and put new sock with new carbon portion.
>>> > Sounds like a good idea - have to test it :-)
>>>
>>> This is the stupidest idea ever :-)
>>>
>>> I tested it and it caused carbon in the sock to turn
>>> into a microparticles (crushed) and passed through
>>> the sock coloring my water and covering everything
>>> with black dust... Do not try it at home :-)))
>>
>> My husband suggested placing the carbon
>> in a condom. That way the dust does not
>> seep into the water.
>>
>
I have 5 tanks: 10 to 75 gal. I quit using carbon years ago except
with the prefilled frames. I see no change.

I have also gone from 20% water changes twice a week to 20% every few
months, determined by filter overflow and water debris.

My tanks all have heavy plant growth.

[Natsirt]

On Oct 8, 9:17 am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Oct 8, 8:10?am, Dick > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 01:20:31 -0500, "Jeffrey St. Clair, Ph.D."
>
> > > wrote:
> > >These days, carbon is pretty much recommended only to remove meds from
> > >water. The cons outwiegh the pros, such as it doesn't filter microbes,
> > >nitrates, sodium or flouride. It also lowers dissolved oxygen levels
> > >significantly and also filters out needed elements, such as trace elements.
>
> > >"Tynk" > wrote in message
> > ups.com...
> > >> On Oct 4, 3:29?pm, "Pszemol" > wrote:
> > >>> "Pszemol" > wrote in
> > >>> ...
> > >>> > "Pszemol" > wrote in
> > >>> > ...
> > >>> >> Other than hanging a bag filled with carbon in the sump,
> > >>> >> what do you use to make carbon work more efficiently?
>
> > >>> >> Tha idea with a bag works, but in my understanding
> > >>> >> water would penetrate carbon better if it was flowing
> > >>> >> forced through not around the bag...
>
> > >>> >> I was trying to put a layer of carbon in the phosphate
> > >>> >> reactor, but carbon is very light and it is easily
> > >>> >> lifted up with water and travels back to my tank...
>
> > >>> >> How do you put carbon to work in your reef tanks?
>
> > >>> > Now I have an idea... what if I dump the carbon loose
> > >>> > into the sock in the sump? The sock I am using is quite
> > >>> > fine to prevent carbon escaping to the sump and the
> > >>> > water is pretty well agitated in the sock so the carbon
> > >>> > will work efficiently there...
> > >>> > The sock lasts about a week or two before it clogs
> > >>> > with dirt, so I could dump the sock with used up carbon
> > >>> > to the garbagge and put new sock with new carbon portion.
> > >>> > Sounds like a good idea - have to test it :-)
>
> > >>> This is the stupidest idea ever :-)
>
> > >>> I tested it and it caused carbon in the sock to turn
> > >>> into a microparticles (crushed) and passed through
> > >>> the sock coloring my water and covering everything
> > >>> with black dust... Do not try it at home :-)))
>
> > >> My husband suggested placing the carbon
> > >> in a condom. That way the dust does not
> > >> seep into the water.
>
> > I have 5 tanks: 10 to 75 gal. I quit using carbon years ago except
> > with the prefilled frames. I see no change.
>
> > I have also gone from 20% water changes twice a week to 20% every few
> > months, determined by filter overflow and water debris.
>
> > My tanks all have heavy plant growth.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I also have quit using carbon unless I'm trying to remove medications.
> Don't be fooled by the troll who started this thread in a copy of my
> screen name.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Duh.TYNKS having a melt downand a severe case of paranoia.Its me, its
not me its me its not me..duh duh duh! What a ****ing moron TYNK aka
Kelly is.

[Natsirt]

On Oct 8, 9:41 am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Oct 8, 9:36?am, Natsirt > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Duh.TYNKS having a melt downand a severe case of paranoia.
>
> No meltdown here Roid.
> Just calling you out for the troll that you are.
> LOL

Nothing like a Monday morning meltdown huh Tynk baby? Enjoy, you
worked hard to get it. What a dumbass moron. See how you managed to
get these groups trashed up so quick all with your inept abvility to
differenctiate who posts what and the incessant need to run your
diarreha mouth of yours. Go get sonme meds Tynk, your in dire need of
help! Do you really think that there is anyone inthese groups any more
that gives a rats ass? If you do your even more stupid than I am
giving you credit for!

[TSJ]

On Oct 8, 9:17 am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Oct 8, 8:10?am, Dick > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 01:20:31 -0500, "Jeffrey St. Clair, Ph.D."
>
> > > wrote:
> > >These days, carbon is pretty much recommended only to remove meds from
> > >water. The cons outwiegh the pros, such as it doesn't filter microbes,
> > >nitrates, sodium or flouride. It also lowers dissolved oxygen levels
> > >significantly and also filters out needed elements, such as trace elements.
>
> > >"Tynk" > wrote in message
> > ups.com...
> > >> On Oct 4, 3:29?pm, "Pszemol" > wrote:
> > >>> "Pszemol" > wrote in
> > >>> ...
> > >>> > "Pszemol" > wrote in
> > >>> > ...
> > >>> >> Other than hanging a bag filled with carbon in the sump,
> > >>> >> what do you use to make carbon work more efficiently?
>
> > >>> >> Tha idea with a bag works, but in my understanding
> > >>> >> water would penetrate carbon better if it was flowing
> > >>> >> forced through not around the bag...
>
> > >>> >> I was trying to put a layer of carbon in the phosphate
> > >>> >> reactor, but carbon is very light and it is easily
> > >>> >> lifted up with water and travels back to my tank...
>
> > >>> >> How do you put carbon to work in your reef tanks?
>
> > >>> > Now I have an idea... what if I dump the carbon loose
> > >>> > into the sock in the sump? The sock I am using is quite
> > >>> > fine to prevent carbon escaping to the sump and the
> > >>> > water is pretty well agitated in the sock so the carbon
> > >>> > will work efficiently there...
> > >>> > The sock lasts about a week or two before it clogs
> > >>> > with dirt, so I could dump the sock with used up carbon
> > >>> > to the garbagge and put new sock with new carbon portion.
> > >>> > Sounds like a good idea - have to test it :-)
>
> > >>> This is the stupidest idea ever :-)
>
> > >>> I tested it and it caused carbon in the sock to turn
> > >>> into a microparticles (crushed) and passed through
> > >>> the sock coloring my water and covering everything
> > >>> with black dust... Do not try it at home :-)))
>
> > >> My husband suggested placing the carbon
> > >> in a condom. That way the dust does not
> > >> seep into the water.
>
> > I have 5 tanks: 10 to 75 gal. I quit using carbon years ago except
> > with the prefilled frames. I see no change.
>
> > I have also gone from 20% water changes twice a week to 20% every few
> > months, determined by filter overflow and water debris.
>
> > My tanks all have heavy plant growth.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I also have quit using carbon unless I'm trying to remove medications.
> Don't be fooled by the troll who started this thread in a copy of my
> screen name.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Nice try withn the cross posting routine TYNK but we all at the reef
group know exactly what and who you really are. We all got our little
group cleaned up with a few posts by you were actually doing pretty
darn good.........feel free to join us if you check your paranoia at
the door.

[David L. Burkhead]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Oct 8, 9:36?am, Natsirt > wrote:
> >
> > Duh.TYNKS having a melt downand a severe case of paranoia.
>
> No meltdown here Roid.
> Just calling you out for the troll that you are.
> LOL

Just FYI, nobody who has any experience at all is going to be fooled. When
I saw the various posts by the false Tynk, my immediate thought was "that
isn't right" and a quick look at message headers revealed the forgery.

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[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Dick" > wrote in message
...
>>
> I have 5 tanks: 10 to 75 gal. I quit using carbon years ago except
> with the prefilled frames. I see no change.
==================
I also quit using it years ago. I do keep some on hand but there are cobwebs
on the box. :-D
--

RM....
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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[Natsirt]

On Oct 8, 1:54 pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
> "Dick" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > I have 5 tanks: 10 to 75 gal. I quit using carbon years ago except
> > with the prefilled frames. I see no change.
>
> ==================
> I also quit using it years ago. I do keep some on hand but there are cobwebs
> on the box. :-D
> --
>
> RM....
> Zone 6. Middle TN USA
> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

I wonder if Joann has any of the so called activated charcoal left
from her and Dr. Solos charcoal scam of a few years
back...................sure were nice folks to screw honest folks like
those two did..........may as well used pecans as they had as much
effect as their so called activated charcoal did..........

[[email protected]]

the secret to great fish health. Ingrid

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:10:47 -0500, Dick > wrote:
>My tanks all have heavy plant growth.

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Natsirt" > wrote in message
ups.com...
I wonder if Joann has any of the so called activated charcoal left
from her and Dr. Solos charcoal scam of a few years
back...................sure were nice folks to screw honest folks like
those two did..........may as well used pecans as they had as much
effect as their so called activated charcoal did..........
=========================
Someone named Tom looked it up before too many people bought it. It made no
sense to me since I had already read you can't just rinse charcoal, any of
the charcoals to reactivate them. You have to hold them at something like
2000F for a certain amount of time. I heard it was very expensive also. I
didn't buy any of it at the time. She may have refunded people's money.
--

RM....
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Ded Objekts In Veevoh]

On Oct 7, 9:36 am, someone wrote or was quoted in writing:
> > >> How do you put carbon to work in your reef tanks?
> > > Now I have an idea... what if I dump the carbon loose
> > > into the sock in the sump? The sock I am using is quite
> > > fine to prevent carbon escaping to the sump and the
> > > water is pretty well agitated in the sock so the carbon
> > > will work efficiently there...
> > > The sock lasts about a week or two before it clogs
> > > with dirt, so I could dump the sock with used up carbon
> > > to the garbagge and put new sock with new carbon portion.

Activated charcoal isn't my cup of tea, but that's because I'm
interested in supporting Daphnia and Moss.
I still hav charcoal on hand in case a fish comes down with something.
Then, I'd want to remove medication, right? Because all of my fish
would get the medication.

This plan with the sock makes sense to me if it's more
suitable or as suitable as the usual nylon that you can buy charcoal
in. With potted or rooted plants, I wouldn't worry about the trace
minerals being lost from the water. Those should be in the silt.

Someone might think I'm kidding about the Moss, but I hav a
Plecostomus, and it gets algae thins. I'm not sure that it will like
the substrate for moss that I'm sewing.

Trolls aren't people. They're off-topic posts with crummy langgwij
outbursts. Sometimes, they're sock puppets of seemingly normal people.
I hate it when they raise identity issues, because I know a lot about
dijital identity, and I believe it's mechanically sound.

So, the question is, would you phone someone, say someone at a pet
shop, with the same idea. And, if you did, would you ignore their
criticism and do it anyway.
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