ªºªandcarole[_3_]
December 29th 07, 05:49 PM
On Dec 28, 12:59�pm, Karim Ikram Al Sheikh >
wrote:
> Australian and UK views that felt some obligation
> : from the 1947 UKUSA treaty (dealing with interchange of intelligence).
> :
> : With a vast majority the US was cornered completely, and had to accept
> : the international views. And actually adopted those as well. �EFF, EPIC and
> : other US organizations were delighted to see the formal US views barred,
> : but expressed their concern on the development of alternate political
> : pressure that would cause the same effects.
> :
> : As time went by that was indeed what the US did, and up to now with minor
> : success.
> :
> : Bertil Fortrie
> : Internet Security Review
> : ==
>
> There it is yet again: "anytime, anywhere", and "UKUSA".
>
> There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Netscape and other companies
> --- the U.S. is a world leading producer of software technology --- are
> having their products outlawed for world-wide distribution because of
> ECHELON.
>
> Ubiquitous full-strength crypto --- in all our email products and web
> browsers --- would immediately begin to lessen ECHELON's ability to
> spy in such a massive dragnet fashion.
>
> There is an ugly implication to ECHELON being the reason Netscape and company
> are being held hostage by the NSA.
>
> � �"Only with a court authorized warrant..." --- Louis Freeh, FBI Director
>
> Louis Freeh is lying.
<snip>
Is that you, tynk?
wrote:
> Australian and UK views that felt some obligation
> : from the 1947 UKUSA treaty (dealing with interchange of intelligence).
> :
> : With a vast majority the US was cornered completely, and had to accept
> : the international views. And actually adopted those as well. �EFF, EPIC and
> : other US organizations were delighted to see the formal US views barred,
> : but expressed their concern on the development of alternate political
> : pressure that would cause the same effects.
> :
> : As time went by that was indeed what the US did, and up to now with minor
> : success.
> :
> : Bertil Fortrie
> : Internet Security Review
> : ==
>
> There it is yet again: "anytime, anywhere", and "UKUSA".
>
> There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Netscape and other companies
> --- the U.S. is a world leading producer of software technology --- are
> having their products outlawed for world-wide distribution because of
> ECHELON.
>
> Ubiquitous full-strength crypto --- in all our email products and web
> browsers --- would immediately begin to lessen ECHELON's ability to
> spy in such a massive dragnet fashion.
>
> There is an ugly implication to ECHELON being the reason Netscape and company
> are being held hostage by the NSA.
>
> � �"Only with a court authorized warrant..." --- Louis Freeh, FBI Director
>
> Louis Freeh is lying.
<snip>
Is that you, tynk?