EasyBalance® with NitrabanT

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

Has anyone heard of this product? A friend sent me the information and
claimed he doesn't need to do water changes anymore.
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[Randy Webb]

Reel McKoi said the following on 1/2/2008 9:24 PM:
> Has anyone heard of this product? A friend sent me the information and
> claimed he doesn't need to do water changes anymore.

<URL: http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/printthread.php?t=76741>

That was the first hit in a Google search for it.

But, even the bottle itself doesn't say it will eliminate water changes.
It says that it will make them less frequent. But, in personal
experience with it, it doesn't do what it claims to do.

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[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Randy Webb" > wrote in message
...
> Reel McKoi said the following on 1/2/2008 9:24 PM:
>> Has anyone heard of this product? A friend sent me the information and
>> claimed he doesn't need to do water changes anymore.
>
> <URL: http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/printthread.php?t=76741>
>
> That was the first hit in a Google search for it.
>
> But, even the bottle itself doesn't say it will eliminate water changes.
> It says that it will make them less frequent. But, in personal experience
> with it, it doesn't do what it claims to do.
==================================
I figured it didn't. Most of these products are money makers for those that
sell them and little more.
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Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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[tynk]

On Jan 3, 7:15*pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
> "Randy Webb" > wrote in message
>
> ...> Reel McKoi said the following on 1/2/2008 9:24 PM:
> >> Has anyone heard of this product? *A friend sent me the information and
> >> claimed he doesn't need to do water changes anymore.
>
> > <URL:http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/printthread.php?t=76741>
>
> > That was the first hit in a Google search for it.
>
> > But, even the bottle itself doesn't say it will eliminate water changes.
> > It says that it will make them less frequent. But, in personal experience
> > with it, it doesn't do what it claims to do.
>
> ==================================
> I figured it didn't. Most of these products are money makers for those that
> sell them and little more.
> --
>
> RM....
> Frugal ponding since 1995.
> rec.ponder since late 1996.
> Zone 6. *Middle TN USA
> ~~~~ *}<((((*> *~~~ * }<{{{{(ö>

Snake oil is all it is.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Randy the Crude Dude is not afraid to use snake oil but
is freaking paranoid of magnetic cleaners......what can I say except
"What a freaking dumbass"

[Randy Webb]

Reel McKoi said the following on 1/3/2008 8:15 PM:
>
> "Randy Webb" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Reel McKoi said the following on 1/2/2008 9:24 PM:
>>> Has anyone heard of this product? A friend sent me the information
>>> and claimed he doesn't need to do water changes anymore.
>>
>> <URL: http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/printthread.php?t=76741>
>>
>> That was the first hit in a Google search for it.
>>
>> But, even the bottle itself doesn't say it will eliminate water
>> changes. It says that it will make them less frequent. But, in
>> personal experience with it, it doesn't do what it claims to do.
> ==================================
> I figured it didn't. Most of these products are money makers for those
> that sell them and little more.

It does help with an ammonia spike. It just doesn't do the "no water
change for 6 months" claim. The idea is that it will take the Nitrogen
from the ammonia out of the water, thereby negating ammonia. If you have
an ammonia spike (Long story for another thread but I had one last
Tuesday), and you does with NitrabanT, it does bring the ammonia down
for a while but you can't neglect the tank because you used NitrabanT.

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind

[Randy Webb]

tynk said the following on 1/3/2008 9:31 PM:
> On Jan 3, 7:15 pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
>> "Randy Webb" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...> Reel McKoi said the following on 1/2/2008 9:24 PM:
>>>> Has anyone heard of this product? A friend sent me the information and
>>>> claimed he doesn't need to do water changes anymore.
>>> <URL:http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/printthread.php?t=76741>
>>> That was the first hit in a Google search for it.
>>> But, even the bottle itself doesn't say it will eliminate water changes.
>>> It says that it will make them less frequent. But, in personal experience
>>> with it, it doesn't do what it claims to do.
>> ==================================
>> I figured it didn't. Most of these products are money makers for those that
>> sell them and little more.
>> --
>>
>> RM....
>> Frugal ponding since 1995.
>> rec.ponder since late 1996.
>> Zone 6. Middle TN USA
>> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>
>
> Snake oil is all it is.
>
> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Randy the Crude Dude is not afraid to use snake oil but
> is freaking paranoid of magnetic cleaners......what can I say except
> "What a freaking dumbass"

Your problem isn't that your stupid. To call you stupid would be an
insult to stupid people. Your problem is you are too ignorant to realize
how ignorant you are.

Try harder son. You can do it, just try harder.

You failed again.

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Randy Webb" > wrote in message
...
> Reel McKoi said the following on 1/3/2008 8:15 PM:
>>
>> "Randy Webb" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Reel McKoi said the following on 1/2/2008 9:24 PM:
>>>> Has anyone heard of this product? A friend sent me the information and
>>>> claimed he doesn't need to do water changes anymore.
>>>
>>> <URL: http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/printthread.php?t=76741>
>>>
>>> That was the first hit in a Google search for it.
>>>
>>> But, even the bottle itself doesn't say it will eliminate water changes.
>>> It says that it will make them less frequent. But, in personal
>>> experience with it, it doesn't do what it claims to do.
>> ==================================
>> I figured it didn't. Most of these products are money makers for those
>> that sell them and little more.
>
> It does help with an ammonia spike. It just doesn't do the "no water
> change for 6 months" claim. The idea is that it will take the Nitrogen
> from the ammonia out of the water, thereby negating ammonia. If you have
> an ammonia spike (Long story for another thread but I had one last
> Tuesday), and you does with NitrabanT, it does bring the ammonia down for
> a while but you can't neglect the tank because you used NitrabanT.

Thanks. I'm passing the info on to my friend......... :-)
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Randy Webb]

Tynk said the following on 1/8/2008 11:07 AM:
> On Jan 6, 9:46�pm, Randy Webb > wrote:
>
>>> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Randy the Crude Dude is not afraid to use snake oil but
>>> is freaking paranoid of magnetic cleaners......what can I say except
>>> "What a freaking dumbass"
>> Your problem isn't that your stupid. To call you stupid would be an
>> insult to stupid people. Your problem is you are too ignorant to realize
>> how ignorant you are.
>>
>> Try harder son. You can do it, just try harder.
>>
>> You failed again.
>>
>
> Be careful Randy.
> The *Imposter Tynk* doesn't like to be corrected.
> He's going to have a hissy fit on you.

Good. I have been trolled, flamed and harassed by a lot better than Roy.
And I have learned how to deal with idiots like him.

> Roy thinks he's the only one who can give advice to anyone, that he's
> the only correct one, and that it's fine to act so childish that he
> steals somebody's screen name (I'm not the only one he does this to.
> There's MANY), leaves false or vulgar posts for attention, and on and
> on and on.
> He's tuly a waste. In every sense of the word.

Just curious then why you keep wasting your time on him? :) Think about it.

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind

[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 9, 4:42Â*pm, Randy Webb > wrote:
> Tynk said the following on 1/8/2008 11:07 AM:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 6, 9:46�pm, Randy Webb > wrote:
>
> >>> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Randy the Crude Dude is not afraid to use snake oil but
> >>> is freaking paranoid of magnetic cleaners......what can I say except
> >>> "What a freaking dumbass"
> >> Your problem isn't that your stupid. To call you stupid would be an
> >> insult to stupid people. Your problem is you are too ignorant to realize
> >> how ignorant you are.
>
> >> Try harder son. You can do it, just try harder.
>
> >> You failed again.
>
> > Be careful Randy.
> > The *Imposter Tynk* doesn't like to be corrected.
> > He's going to have a hissy fit on you.
>
> Good. I have been trolled, flamed and harassed by a lot better than Roy.
> And I have learned how to deal with idiots like him.
>
> > Roy thinks he's the only one who can give advice to anyone, that he's
> > the only correct one, and that it's fine to act so childish that he
> > steals somebody's screen name (I'm not the only one he does this to.
> > There's MANY), leaves false or vulgar posts for attention, and on and
> > on and on.
> > He's tuly a waste. In every sense of the word.
>
> Just curious then why you keep wasting your time on him? :) Think about it..
>
> --
> Randy
> Chance Favors The Prepared Mind- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Because the bitch can't stand it when someone else knows as much or
more than she does and she is not in total
control....................Ask her about her and Gill Passmans hate
group to discredit those that they did not deem suitbale to be on the
various usenet groups.................

[Randy Webb]

Tynk said the following on 1/9/2008 7:25 PM:
> On Jan 9, 4:42 pm, Randy Webb > wrote:
>> Tynk said the following on 1/8/2008 11:07 AM:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 6, 9:46�pm, Randy Webb > wrote:
>>>>> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Randy the Crude Dude is not afraid to use snake oil but
>>>>> is freaking paranoid of magnetic cleaners......what can I say except
>>>>> "What a freaking dumbass"
>>>> Your problem isn't that your stupid. To call you stupid would be an
>>>> insult to stupid people. Your problem is you are too ignorant to realize
>>>> how ignorant you are.
>>>> Try harder son. You can do it, just try harder.
>>>> You failed again.
>>> Be careful Randy.
>>> The *Imposter Tynk* doesn't like to be corrected.
>>> He's going to have a hissy fit on you.
>> Good. I have been trolled, flamed and harassed by a lot better than Roy.
>> And I have learned how to deal with idiots like him.
>>
>>> Roy thinks he's the only one who can give advice to anyone, that he's
>>> the only correct one, and that it's fine to act so childish that he
>>> steals somebody's screen name (I'm not the only one he does this to.
>>> There's MANY), leaves false or vulgar posts for attention, and on and
>>> on and on.
>>> He's tuly a waste. In every sense of the word.
>> Just curious then why you keep wasting your time on him? :) Think about it.
>
> Because the bitch can't stand it when someone else knows as much or
> more than she does and she is not in total
> control....................

Sort of sounds like you. Otherwise you wouldn't waste your time with the
childish theatrics.

> Ask her about her and Gill Passmans hate group to discredit those that
> they did not deem suitbale to be on the various usenet groups.................

"Hate groups"? Are you referring to the Google Group for aquariums?

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind

[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 9, 6:29Â*pm, Randy Webb > wrote:
> Tynk said the following on 1/9/2008 7:25 PM:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 9, 4:42 pm, Randy Webb > wrote:
> >> Tynk said the following on 1/8/2008 11:07 AM:
>
> >>> On Jan 6, 9:46�pm, Randy Webb > wrote:
> >>>>> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Randy the Crude Dude is not afraid to use snake oil but
> >>>>> is freaking paranoid of magnetic cleaners......what can I say except
> >>>>> "What a freaking dumbass"
> >>>> Your problem isn't that your stupid. To call you stupid would be an
> >>>> insult to stupid people. Your problem is you are too ignorant to realize
> >>>> how ignorant you are.
> >>>> Try harder son. You can do it, just try harder.
> >>>> You failed again.
> >>> Be careful Randy.
> >>> The *Imposter Tynk* doesn't like to be corrected.
> >>> He's going to have a hissy fit on you.
> >> Good. I have been trolled, flamed and harassed by a lot better than Roy..
> >> And I have learned how to deal with idiots like him.
>
> >>> Roy thinks he's the only one who can give advice to anyone, that he's
> >>> the only correct one, and that it's fine to act so childish that he
> >>> steals somebody's screen name (I'm not the only one he does this to.
> >>> There's MANY), leaves false or vulgar posts for attention, and on and
> >>> on and on.
> >>> He's tuly a waste. In every sense of the word.
> >> Just curious then why you keep wasting your time on him? :) Think about it.
>
> > Because the bitch can't stand it when someone else knows as much or
> > more than she does and she is not in total
> > control....................
>
> Sort of sounds like you. Otherwise you wouldn't waste your time with the
> childish theatrics.
>
> > Ask her about her and Gill Passmans hate group to discredit those that
> > they did not deem suitbale to be on the various usenet groups..................
>
> "Hate groups"? Are you referring to the Google Group for aquariums?

Gill Passman and TYNK had a hate group used to discredit those they
deemed unsuitbale to post in the various aquaria groups. ONce it was
exposed and made public Gill Passman has rarely (2 or so times
perhaps in many many months) showed her face in the aquaria groups.
Now she stays hid in the moderated pond group and the google group she
created for aquariums................Gill was a bit faster than TYNK
and Jan the other control freak and deleted 99.9% of her
posts............as well as a bunch of TYNKS, but TYBNK swears she
only ever posted in that gorup 2 or so times..............but just
read the "quoted" text as that still has more than sufficient info to
show exactly what TYNK and her buddy Gill Passman are really
like.........................They are the ones behind the scenes using
many many nyms and pretending to be others that they want discredited,
now its their turn since the truth was exposed! TYNK and Gill are
known to use folks to get what they want..........
>
> --
> Randy
> Chance Favors The Prepared Mind- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Randy Webb]

Tynk said the following on 1/9/2008 7:37 PM:
> On Jan 9, 6:29 pm, Randy Webb > wrote:
>> Tynk said the following on 1/9/2008 7:25 PM:

<snip>

Subject line returned to what it was before you butchered it.

If you want to talk about whether NitrabanT is snake oil or not, we can.
I have very limited use with it. But, I can tell you this much. What I
wrote about it is very true in my personal experience with it. It will
handle a spike but it won't stand up to it's six month water change claim.

>>> Ask her about her and Gill Passmans hate group to discredit those that
>>> they did not deem suitbale to be on the various usenet groups.................
>> "Hate groups"? Are you referring to the Google Group for aquariums?
>
> Gill Passman and TYNK had a hate group used to discredit those they
> deemed unsuitbale to post in the various aquaria groups. ONce it was
> exposed and made public Gill Passman has rarely (2 or so times
> perhaps in many many months) showed her face in the aquaria groups.

Can you give me a link to this "hate group"? Or, an example of it? I am
not doubting you, but I would like to see it just for my own reasons. As
for Gill, I don't know Gill. Gill has replied to me in one of the
moderated groups to a question I had about a problem I had last week.
Nothing hateful about the reply, nothing even remotely close to what you
are describing.

> Now she stays hid in the moderated pond group and the google group she
> created for aquariums................Gill was a bit faster than TYNK
> and Jan the other control freak and deleted 99.9% of her
> posts............as well as a bunch of TYNKS, but TYBNK swears she
> only ever posted in that gorup 2 or so times..............but just
> read the "quoted" text as that still has more than sufficient info to
> show exactly what TYNK and her buddy Gill Passman are really
> like.........................

Again, can you post some links to those posts? I would really be
interested in reading them. It would help me figure out who is who and
who does what. Make it easier to figure out who is full of it and who isn't.

> They are the ones behind the scenes using many many nyms and
> pretending to be others that they want discredited, now its
> their turn since the truth was exposed! TYNK and Gill are
> known to use folks to get what they want..........

Personally, I couldn't care less about you two not liking one another. I
really couldn't. The only difference it makes to me is that both of you
make it damn near impossible to even try to post anything here. And, I
would actually like somewhere to post without having to deal with the
abomination of a front-end they call Google Groups to be able to talk,
ask, and discuss a hobby of mine.

Geez, both of you need to grow up and let it go.

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind

[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 9, 10:41*pm, Randy Webb > wrote:
> Tynk said the following on 1/9/2008 7:37 PM:
>
> > On Jan 9, 6:29 pm, Randy Webb > wrote:
> >> Tynk said the following on 1/9/2008 7:25 PM:
>
> <snip>
>
> Subject line returned to what it was before you butchered it.

And once again Subject changed to reflect what the product is.
>
> If you want to talk about whether NitrabanT is snake oil or not, we can.
> I have very limited use with it. But, I can tell you this much. What I
> wrote about it is very true in my personal experience with it. It will
> handle a spike but it won't stand up to it's six month water change claim.
>
> >>> Ask her about her and Gill Passmans hate group to discredit those that
> >>> they did not deem suitbale to be on the various usenet groups..................
> >> "Hate groups"? Are you referring to the Google Group for aquariums?
>
> > Gill Passman and TYNK had a hate group used to discredit those they
> > deemed unsuitbale to post in the various aquaria groups. ONce it was
> > exposed and made public Gill Passman has rarely *(2 or so times
> > perhaps in many many months) showed her face in the aquaria groups.
>
> Can you give me a link to this "hate group"? Or, an example of it? I am
> not doubting you, but I would like to see it just for my own reasons. As
> for Gill, I don't know Gill. Gill has replied to me in one of the
> moderated groups to a question I had about a problem I had last week.
> Nothing hateful about the reply, nothing even remotely close to what you
> are describing.

Of course not, now that she has her flock of sheeple under her and
"IN" her own createsd domain, she is a happy camper....As for a link,
look for it yourself, I ama like you TOO BUSY!...........Its there and
easy enough to find with a google search after all its still a bona
fide Google group.still locked down for making additional posts in to
preserve just what TYNK and GIll did to a few members in their attempt
to discredit them.............with the main one being RM..........and
who they had virtually every aquaria group member trashing
her...........just to make their case asdn geta google group started
to which they cojld control it all as well as moderated groups.

>
> > Now she stays hid in the moderated pond group and the google group she
> > created for aquariums................Gill was a bit faster than TYNK
> > and Jan the other control freak and deleted 99.9% of her
> > posts............as well as a bunch of TYNKS, but TYBNK swears she
> > only ever posted in that gorup 2 or so times..............but just
> > read the "quoted" text as that still has more than sufficient info to
> > show exactly what TYNK and her buddy Gill Passman are really
> > like.........................
>
> Again, can you post some links to those posts? I would really be
> interested in reading them. It would help me figure out who is who and
> who does what. Make it easier to figure out who is full of it and who isn't.

[Larry Blanchard]

On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:41:36 -0500, Randy Webb wrote:

> Personally, I couldn't care less about you two not liking one another. I
> really couldn't. The only difference it makes to me is that both of you
> make it damn near impossible to even try to post anything here.

Randy, I haven't seen anything from either of them for some weeks now.
It's called a killfile. You just feed the flames when you respond to them.

[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 10, 9:07*am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Jan 9, 6:37*pm, Tynk > IMPOSTER tynk
>
> LIES DELETED.
>
> You are unreal Roy.
> The amount of lies you tell amazes me.

My TYNK the truth has left you quite speechless..............

And isn't it nice to know that the infamous TYNK has also been
killfiltered out too.............I know for a fact I xcan get around
filters if I want, but I see no need to do it...........its
that can not handle seeing her ?nym" used and the truth
exposed.Like I said previously. The Tynks (Kelly from Illinois)
credibility and name is now nothing but ****. to the majority that may
access this group, just like her and Gill Passman had intentions of
doing with Carols! I oculd care lessa about mine, but its evident
TYNKI can't stand the publicity, and has been having frequent melt
downs for some time now..........

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
...

I at least had the coutesy to appoligize to Carol for qwhat I did
unlike TYNK and the others............who refuse to admit what they
did or their intentions were wrong. They simply tried to turn posters
against posters and to create havoc and then piotch the remaining
posters all on Carol aka RM in an attempt to drive her
away..........

* But those who meant ill failed as they usually do, and I am still here.

True the hate group may not have a catchey title like
Our HATE group, but what on behind the scenes and what was started out
of that group speaks for itself.............and its real intention. So
I never denied I was also a member of that group TYNK, and it was the
so called trust you and Gill put in me to get rid of carol that Gill
and yu decided to make me an OWNER of that group, and thats when I
took total control and made it public as well as anounced all about
the group, all the while you and Gill and Jan were busy tryuing to
delete what you all had posted........

* But everyone saw and read the messages. They wanted to get rid of me
thinking all involved with the troll from the religious group would go away.
I was the sacrificial lamb and wont forget it. Chase away the lamb and the
wolves will follow it - so to speak. I'm trying to get past what happened.
The lies and betrayal and manipulation and outright hatefulness of people
who knew me for years.

..I only screwed u p by not
locking it down before announcing I took control of the
group................but there is still more there in quoted text to
see exactly what transpired. I am not proud of what I may have said to
Carol by getting wrapped up and listening to Gill and TYNK and
JAN...........who spoke that it was all for the good of the usenet
aquaria groups..........yea right!


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Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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