fish

[chris098]

im new to keeping fish,what are the best fish,to keep the bottom of the tank
clean,i have a 80lt tank

[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 4, 5:27*pm, Steve Wolstenholme >
wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:46:16 GMT, "chris098" <u40420@uwe> wrote:
> >im new to keeping fish,what are the best fish,to keep the bottom of the tank
> >clean,i have a 80lt tank
>
> The bottom of the tank should not need to be kept clean. Why is
> getting dirty? Too much food?
>
> Steve

The best thing to keep the bottom of the tank clean is the person
that feeds the fish! Bottom cleaners may do a half decent affair but
its too much to be expected for fish to keep the bottom clean and
human intervention is stillgoing to be required.

Most any of the catfish in the coryadorus family do a fair job, as do
weather (DOJO) loaches. If your getting an accumulation of foods yuor
feeding too much...........The bottom may require a vacuuming on
occassion but it should not really become that dirty or full of
detrius etc that it is so noticeable. Usually there is an accumulation
of detrius that does build up over time that gets down betweenthe
gravel or substrate that needs vaccuuming out.......Use what is called
a Phython or gravel cleaner to clean substrate.........

[Larry Blanchard]

On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:46:16 +0000, chris098 wrote:

> im new to keeping fish,what are the best fish,to keep the bottom of the tank
> clean,i have a 80lt tank

Albino cory cats do pretty well, and they're fun to watch.

[chris098 via PetKB.com]

Steve Wolstenholme wrote:
>>im new to keeping fish,what are the best fish,to keep the bottom of the tank
>>clean,i have a 80lt tank
>
>The bottom of the tank should not need to be kept clean. Why is
>getting dirty? Too much food?
>
>Steve
thanks,will cut down at feed times.

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[chris098 via PetKB.com]

Tynk wrote:
>On Jan 4, 5:27Â*pm, Steve Wolstenholme >
>wrote:
>> >im new to keeping fish,what are the best fish,to keep the bottom of the tank
>> >clean,i have a 80lt tank
>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> Steve
>
>The best thing to keep the bottom of the tank clean is the person
>that feeds the fish! Bottom cleaners may do a half decent affair but
>its too much to be expected for fish to keep the bottom clean and
>human intervention is stillgoing to be required.
>
>Most any of the catfish in the coryadorus family do a fair job, as do
>weather (DOJO) loaches. If your getting an accumulation of foods yuor
>feeding too much...........The bottom may require a vacuuming on
>occassion but it should not really become that dirty or full of
>detrius etc that it is so noticeable. Usually there is an accumulation
>of detrius that does build up over time that gets down betweenthe
>gravel or substrate that needs vaccuuming out.......Use what is called
>a Phython or gravel cleaner to clean substrate.........
i have a gravel cleaner,which i do use from time to time when needed,all the
fish in my tank apart from the corys,are tetras,barbs,danios,glass fish,whats
the best way to get the amount of food right that you feed,so keeping the
bottom cleaner

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[Larry Blanchard]

On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:27:26 +0000, chris098 via PetKB.com wrote:

> i have a gravel cleaner,which i do use from time to time when needed,all the
> fish in my tank apart from the corys,are tetras,barbs,danios,glass fish,whats
> the best way to get the amount of food right that you feed,so keeping the
> bottom cleaner

You'll get various answers to that. If you feed twice a day as most do,
put a little food in - if it's gone in less than a minute you haven't
given them enough. If there's still some left after two minutes, you're
feeding too much.

For the cories, at most a half a bottom feeder tablet per fish once a day
should be more than enough. Don't feed them at all one or two days a week
and they'll do a better job of cleanup. But if you get the food amount
right for the other fish the cories will need fed at least 6 days a week.

[chris098 via PetKB.com]

Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> i have a gravel cleaner,which i do use from time to time when needed,all the
>> fish in my tank apart from the corys,are tetras,barbs,danios,glass fish,whats
>> the best way to get the amount of food right that you feed,so keeping the
>> bottom cleaner
>
>You'll get various answers to that. If you feed twice a day as most do,
>put a little food in - if it's gone in less than a minute you haven't
>given them enough. If there's still some left after two minutes, you're
>feeding too much.
>
>For the cories, at most a half a bottom feeder tablet per fish once a day
>should be more than enough. Don't feed them at all one or two days a week
>and they'll do a better job of cleanup. But if you get the food amount
>right for the other fish the cories will need fed at least 6 days a week.
thahk-you

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[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"chris098 via PetKB.com" <u40420@uwe> wrote in message
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> thanks,will cut down at feed times.
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And remember for best fish health feed them a variety of food, not just one
brand.
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RM....
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 8, 4:39*pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
> "chris098 via PetKB.com" <u40420@uwe> wrote in messagenews:7dddc8df97852@uwe...> thanks,will cut down at feed times.
>
> =================
> And remember for best fish health feed them a variety of food, not just one
> brand.
> --
>
> RM....
> Zone 6. *Middle TN USA
> ~~~~ *}<((((*> *~~~ * }<{{{{(ö>

No real need to make supplemental independant feedings for most bottom
feeders like Corys. There is usually always going to be sufficient
foods that get by most fish to enable a cory to find food, or at most
all I ever put in with a cory is 2 shrimp pellets per
cory............so between uneated foods that get my other fish and a
shrimp pellet they have always done fine and bred to...so evidently
its more than adequate.

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
...

No real need to make supplemental independant feedings for most bottom
feeders like Corys. There is usually always going to be sufficient
foods that get by most fish to enable a cory to find food, or at most
all I ever put in with a cory is 2 shrimp pellets per
cory............so between uneated foods that get my other fish and a
shrimp pellet they have always done fine and bred to...so evidently
its more than adequate.
===========================
I have 2 corys in each 55g tank. All are looking fat and sassy so they're
getting enough. :-) I drop a shrimp pellet in every other day or so because
the clowns love them too! The platys in the live-bearer tank also love to
nibble on them.
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[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 9, 8:46*pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
> "Tynk" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> No real need to make supplemental independant feedings for most bottom
> feeders like Corys. *There is usually always going to be sufficient
> foods that get by most fish to enable a cory to find food, or at most
> all I ever put in with a cory is 2 shrimp pellets per
> cory............so between uneated foods that get my other fish and a
> shrimp pellet they have always done fine and bred to...so evidently
> its more than adequate.
> ===========================
> I have 2 corys in each 55g tank. All are looking fat and sassy so they're
> getting enough. :-) *I drop a shrimp pellet in every other day or so because
> the clowns love them too! *The platys in the live-bearer tank also love to
> nibble on them.
> --
>
> RM....
> ~~~~ *}<((((*> *~~~ * }<{{{{(ö>

Shrimp pellets are a good all around food / treat that pretty well
most all fish will eat or pick at. I do find the ones made by Wardley
to have a much higher "strange" smell to them as compared to Tetra
brand or Top Fin (Petsmart house brand) as well as others like Hikari
etc......

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 8:46 pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
> "Tynk" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> No real need to make supplemental independant feedings for most bottom
> feeders like Corys. There is usually always going to be sufficient
> foods that get by most fish to enable a cory to find food, or at most
> all I ever put in with a cory is 2 shrimp pellets per
> cory............so between uneated foods that get my other fish and a
> shrimp pellet they have always done fine and bred to...so evidently
> its more than adequate.
> ===========================
> I have 2 corys in each 55g tank. All are looking fat and sassy so they're
> getting enough. :-) I drop a shrimp pellet in every other day or so
> because
> the clowns love them too! The platys in the live-bearer tank also love to
> nibble on them.
> --
>
> RM....
> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

Shrimp pellets are a good all around food / treat that pretty well
most all fish will eat or pick at. I do find the ones made by Wardley
to have a much higher "strange" smell to them as compared to Tetra
brand or Top Fin (Petsmart house brand) as well as others like Hikari
etc......
==============================
I have the Wardly brand and it has a faint fishy aroma. Not a bad aroma at
all.
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[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
...
On Jan 10, 9:14�am, Tynk > wrote:

>
> Shrimp pellets are a good all around food / treat that pretty well
> most all fish will eat or pick at. I do find the ones made by Wardley
> to have a much higher "strange" smell to them as compared to Tetra
> brand or Top Fin (Petsmart house brand) as well as others like Hikari
> etc......- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I like to stay away from store brand generics (Top Fin, etc.) and the
low end brands Hartz..Wardley, etc.
These lower quality pellets tend to make such a mess, one of the
bigger down falls with shrimp pellets.
Tetra makes some good foods, but I recommend Hikari products.
==========================================
Most of what I see locally made by Hikari is goldfish food. I did see and
buy some Tropical Flakes I saw. My fish also like HBI foods, especially the
soft moist type.
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Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 10, 10:30Â*am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Jan 10, 9:14�am, Tynk > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Shrimp pellets are a good all around food / treat that pretty well
> > most all fish will eat or pick at. I do find the ones made by Wardley
> > to have a much higher "strange" smell to them as compared to Tetra
> > brand or Top Fin (Petsmart house brand) as well as others like Hikari
> > etc......- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The crap from TYNK which is one sided has been s n i p p e d....... as its all biased crapo anyhow.........SHE RECOMENDS, like she is some kind of authority.hahahahahahaha when all "The chick with a dick" is, is a dumbass moron............


No one asked byou TYNK.go away you idiot. Your of the caliber that
thinks it has to cost more to be better, when a good portion of all
Top Fin foods is made by a major manufacaturer and its ONLY the
package thats different! Dumbass! Ansd whjy do yu think Hartz or
Wardley is cheaper dumbass.its because they make and sell more of it
fool!...........Noting wronmg i wth any of the shrimp pellets or
pelleted foods, and a comparison of labels shows what is what as well,
but then again you TYNK would have to get your head out of your ass
or from the crotch of Gill Passsman and learn to read.

[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 10, 1:35Â*pm, Tynk > wrote:
> On Jan 10, 10:30Â*am, Tynk > wrote:
>
> > On Jan 10, 9:14�am, Tynk > wrote:
>
> > > Shrimp pellets are a good all around food / treat that pretty well
> > > most all fish will eat or pick at. I do find the ones made by Wardley
> > > to have a much higher "strange" smell to them as compared to Tetra
> > > brand or Top Fin (Petsmart house brand) as well as others like Hikari
> > > etc......- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > The crap from TYNK which is one sided has been Â*s n i p p e d........ as its all biased crapo anyhow.........SHE RECOMENDS, like she is some kind of authority.hahahahahahaha when all "The chick with a dick" Â*is, is a dumbass moron............
>
> No one asked byou TYNK.go away you idiot. Your of the caliber that
> thinks it has to cost more to be better, when a good portion of all
> Top Fin foods is made by a major manufacaturer and its ONLY the
> package thats different! Dumbass! Ansd whjy do yu think Hartz or
> Wardley is cheaper dumbass.its because they make and sell more of it
> fool!...........Noting wronmg i wth any of the shrimp pellets or
> pelleted foods, and a comparison of labels shows what is what as well,
> but then again you TYNK would Â*have to get your head out of your ass
> or from the crotch of Gill Passsman and learn to read.

Hey RM.If you sever see Hikari Micro Wafers, give them a try. I have
yet to find a fish that would not eat them. What you need to do is
send Hikari an email and tell them their food is high dollar, and yuor
income is low dollar, and yu need to be very selective on what foods
your fish will actualy consume and benefit from, and you will not
spend $X.XX on food only to have the fish turn their noses up at it.
Tell them you know drug companies, and dog food companies all send out
free samples and was wondering if they also did. I was told to do
this and I did and I received a email asking for my residence so they
could mail a package of samples to me. They sent me a heap of packets
of all kinds of foods ...............which fed my fish for quite some
time. Also look in the various petstores like Deathco and Petsmart
etc, as often times the distributor puts a box of sample packets of
foods there for customers to take and try.........Thats how I found
out about the MIcro Wafers.............almost resembles coarse ground
blackpepper, and the fish love it..........it is my main food anymore,
along with Shrimp pellets and bulk feeds I buy. My tanks are no more
messy feeding the bulk feeds nor do the fish look bad nor do they east
more or less............but it costs me much less in pocket money to
feed my fish......Feeding cheap foods and making a mess is an old
wives bull**** tale.just like Wardly and Hartz .........Give em a
variety and they all work just great.........

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
...

Hey RM.If you sever see Hikari Micro Wafers, give them a try. I have
yet to find a fish that would not eat them. What you need to do is
send Hikari an email and tell them their food is high dollar, and yuor
income is low dollar, and yu need to be very selective on what foods
your fish will actualy consume and benefit from, and you will not
spend $X.XX on food only to have the fish turn their noses up at it.
Tell them you know drug companies, and dog food companies all send out
free samples and was wondering if they also did. I was told to do
this and I did and I received a email asking for my residence so they
could mail a package of samples to me. They sent me a heap of packets
of all kinds of foods ...............which fed my fish for quite some
time. Also look in the various petstores like Deathco and Petsmart
etc, as often times the distributor puts a box of sample packets of
foods there for customers to take and try.........Thats how I found
out about the MIcro Wafers.............almost resembles coarse ground
blackpepper, and the fish love it..........it is my main food anymore,
along with Shrimp pellets and bulk feeds I buy. My tanks are no more
messy feeding the bulk feeds nor do the fish look bad nor do they east
more or less............but it costs me much less in pocket money to
feed my fish......Feeding cheap foods and making a mess is an old
wives bull**** tale.just like Wardly and Hartz .........Give em a
variety and they all work just great.........
===========================
Will do - thanks! :-)

I'm waiting for the brand new ultra modern PetsMart to open in my nearest
town. I bet they'll have a large selection of feeds and carry Hikari
products. The smaller mom and pop store called "Extreme Pets" that just
opened has a very small selection of fish foods - and fish. I can't see how
they'll compete with the two large chains.
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[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 10, 9:23*pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
> "Tynk" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> Hey RM.If you sever see Hikari Micro Wafers, give them a try. I have
> yet to find a fish that would not eat them. *What you *need to do is
> send Hikari an email and tell them their food is high dollar, and yuor
> income is low dollar, and yu need to be very selective on what foods
> your fish will actualy consume and benefit from, and you will not
> spend $X.XX on food only to have the fish turn their noses up at it.
> Tell them you know drug companies, and dog food companies all send out
> free samples and was wondering if they also did. *I was told to do
> this and I did and I received a email asking for my residence so they
> could mail a package of samples to me. They sent me a heap of packets
> of all kinds of foods ...............which fed my fish for quite some
> time. Also look in the various petstores like Deathco and Petsmart
> etc, as often times the distributor puts a box of sample packets of
> foods there for customers to take and try.........Thats how I found
> out about the MIcro Wafers.............almost resembles coarse *ground
> blackpepper, and the fish love it..........it is my main food anymore,
> along with Shrimp pellets and bulk feeds I buy. My tanks are no more
> messy feeding the bulk feeds nor do the fish look bad nor do they east
> more or less............but it costs me much less in pocket money to
> feed *my fish......Feeding cheap *foods and making a mess is an old
> wives bull**** tale.just like Wardly and Hartz .........Give em a
> variety and they all work just great.........
> ===========================
> Will do - thanks! *:-)
>
> I'm waiting for the brand new ultra modern PetsMart to open in my nearest
> town. I bet they'll have a large selection of feeds and carry Hikari
> products. *The smaller mom and pop store called "Extreme Pets" that just
> opened has a very small selection of fish foods - and fish. I can't see how
> they'll compete with the two large chains.
> --
>
> RM....
> Zone 6. *Middle TN USA
> ~~~~ *}<((((*> *~~~ * }<{{{{(ö>

Based on what Gill Passman and Tynk aka Kelly posts you have to always
feed the highest priced most expensive foods, buy the most expensive
setups, and have the biggesta dbn best of anything so it does the job
correctly and is fit to own. Thats Kelly's (aka Tynk"s) way of doing
things, Do not worry about the small aspects just buy the best and it
should be ok.......................if it does not work just throw more
money at it..................uh huh! TYNK + GILL = 2 DUMBASSES

[Larry Blanchard]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:23:56 -0600, Reel McKoi wrote:

> I'm waiting for the brand new ultra modern PetsMart to open in my nearest
> town. I bet they'll have a large selection of feeds and carry Hikari
> products.

I'll second the approval of Hikari foods. The micro wafers are great and
they also have micro pellets for smaller fish or fish with small mouths.

[Randy Webb]

Larry Blanchard said the following on 1/11/2008 11:51 AM:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:23:56 -0600, Reel McKoi wrote:
>
>> I'm waiting for the brand new ultra modern PetsMart to open in my nearest
>> town. I bet they'll have a large selection of feeds and carry Hikari
>> products.
>
> I'll second the approval of Hikari foods. The micro wafers are great and
> they also have micro pellets for smaller fish or fish with small mouths.
>

After reading this thread, I was in Walmart here last night and looked
to see what they had as far as wafers. They had Wardley brand and Hikari
brand algea wafers. Doesn't mean they carry them in TN stores but they
typically carry the same things nation wide.

It was the only Hikari product I saw though.

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind

[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 11, 11:37*am, Randy Webb > wrote:
> Larry Blanchard said the following on 1/11/2008 11:51 AM:
>
> > On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:23:56 -0600, Reel McKoi wrote:
>
> >> I'm waiting for the brand new ultra modern PetsMart to open in my nearest
> >> town. I bet they'll have a large selection of feeds and carry Hikari
> >> products.
>
> > I'll second the approval of Hikari foods. *The micro wafers are great and
> > they also have micro pellets for smaller fish or fish with small mouths.
>
> After reading this thread, I was in Walmart here last night and looked
> to see what they had as far as wafers. They had Wardley brand and Hikari
> brand algea wafers. Doesn't mean they carry them in TN stores but they
> typically carry the same things nation wide.
>
> It was the only Hikari product I saw though.
>
> --
> Randy
> Chance Favors The Prepared Mind

Try shopping for fish food in a "real" store and not in Wally World
where the majority of "rednecks" and illegals shop for cut rate crap!
If a store (other than Wally World) carries Hikari products then they
can get in mirco wafers or pellets simply by ordering from
vendor.................Besides online is just too cheap to not use
decent foods like Hikari and even with shipping it may come out as
cheap as or cheaper than buying cheap foods locally....................

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Larry Blanchard" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:23:56 -0600, Reel McKoi wrote:
>
>> I'm waiting for the brand new ultra modern PetsMart to open in my nearest
>> town. I bet they'll have a large selection of feeds and carry Hikari
>> products.
>
> I'll second the approval of Hikari foods. The micro wafers are great and
> they also have micro pellets for smaller fish or fish with small mouths.
=============================
I've always liked Hikari brand and would buy it when I saw it somewhere in
my travels. Another I like is the HBH soft pellets. The fish love them but I
can't find the real small size suitable for my bettas and smaller tetras.
All I found was a size suitable for small goldfish or cichlids. I'm eager to
see what this new store has and it's only 15 minutes from my house.
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[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Randy Webb" > wrote in message
...
> After reading this thread, I was in Walmart here last night and looked to
> see what they had as far as wafers. They had Wardley brand and Hikari
> brand algea wafers. Doesn't mean they carry them in TN stores but they
> typically carry the same things nation wide.
>
> It was the only Hikari product I saw though.
===============================
I've yet to see Hikari in Wal*Mart but I'll check next week when I'm food
shopping there. I buy the Shrimp pellets and Tubifex worms there since they
have the lowest prices - that's about it.
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~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Randy Webb]

Reel McKoi said the following on 1/11/2008 11:34 PM:
>
> "Randy Webb" > wrote in message
> ...
>> After reading this thread, I was in Walmart here last night and looked
>> to see what they had as far as wafers. They had Wardley brand and
>> Hikari brand algea wafers. Doesn't mean they carry them in TN stores
>> but they typically carry the same things nation wide.
>>
>> It was the only Hikari product I saw though.
> ===============================
> I've yet to see Hikari in Wal*Mart but I'll check next week when I'm
> food shopping there. I buy the Shrimp pellets and Tubifex worms there
> since they have the lowest prices - that's about it.

The only reason I paid attention to it is because of this thread. I went
to the pet section just to see if I could find Hikari products. I have a
bag of the Hikari Algae Wafers but it is because someone gave them to me
when I took her plecostamus off her hands. As for eating it, I don't see
a lot of difference in the way my algae eaters eat the Hikari's versus
the Wardley's brand.

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Chance Favors The Prepared Mind

[TSJ]

On Jan 12, 12:56*am, Randy Webb > wrote:
> Reel McKoi said the following on 1/11/2008 11:34 PM:
>
>
>
> > "Randy Webb" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> After reading this thread, I was in Walmart here last night and looked
> >> to see what they had as far as wafers. They had Wardley brand and
> >> Hikari brand algea wafers. Doesn't mean they carry them in TN stores
> >> but they typically carry the same things nation wide.
>
> >> It was the only Hikari product I saw though.
> > ===============================
> > I've yet to see Hikari in Wal*Mart but I'll check next week when I'm
> > food shopping there. I buy the Shrimp pellets and Tubifex worms there
> > since they have the lowest prices - that's about it.
>
> The only reason I paid attention to it is because of this thread. I went
> to the pet section just to see if I could find Hikari products. I have a
> bag of the Hikari Algae Wafers but it is because someone gave them to me
> when I took her plecostamus off her hands. As for eating it, I don't see
> a lot of difference in the way my algae eaters eat the Hikari's versus
> the Wardley's brand.
>
> --
> Randy
> Chance Favors The Prepared Mind

http://www.hikari.info/tropical/t_25.html
But that crappy Wardley brand will foul your water and not give proper
nutrition..........as every dumbass knows.............TYNK said
so......and she knows everything.

If you have a "very" knowledgeable LFS that your in tight with, you
might be able to get them to order yu the large "Store" package that
is not marketed for retail trade. Its a large container with a shaker
spout which makes feeding an act like shaking out some salt or pepper
on food...............and its pretty hard to shake too much out with
the container.................plus it costs a great deal less to buy
than the retail containers. So if you drop a lot of $$$$$ at the LFS
see if they will cut you some slack on that item and order it for you.

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"Randy Webb" > wrote in message
...
> Reel McKoi said the following on 1/11/2008 11:34 PM:
>> I've yet to see Hikari in Wal*Mart but I'll check next week when I'm food
>> shopping there. I buy the Shrimp pellets and Tubifex worms there since
>> they have the lowest prices - that's about it.
>
> The only reason I paid attention to it is because of this thread. I went
> to the pet section just to see if I could find Hikari products. I have a
> bag of the Hikari Algae Wafers but it is because someone gave them to me
> when I took her plecostamus off her hands. As for eating it, I don't see a
> lot of difference in the way my algae eaters eat the Hikari's versus the
> Wardley's brand.
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I think the most important thing is variety. If they're fed a variety and
not underfed, they'll thrive. I must have 10 different types of flakes and
pellets I feed them. I also buy the frozen foods. They go wild over that
but it sure is expensive.
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RM.... .
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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[TSJ]

On Jan 12, 9:30*am, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
> "Randy Webb" > wrote in message
>
> ...> Reel McKoi said the following on 1/11/2008 11:34 PM:
> >> I've yet to see Hikari in Wal*Mart but I'll check next week when I'm food
> >> shopping there. I buy the Shrimp pellets and Tubifex worms there since
> >> they have the lowest prices - that's about it.
>
> > The only reason I paid attention to it is because of this thread. I went
> > to the pet section just to see if I could find Hikari products. I have a
> > bag of the Hikari Algae Wafers but it is because someone gave them to me
> > when I took her plecostamus off her hands. As for eating it, I don't see a
> > lot of difference in the way my algae eaters eat the Hikari's versus the
> > Wardley's brand.
>
> ===============================
> I think the most important thing is variety. If they're fed a variety and
> not underfed, they'll thrive. I must have 10 different types of flakes and
> pellets I feed them. *I also buy the frozen foods. They go wild over that
> but it sure is expensive.
> --
>
> RM.... .
> Zone 6. *Middle TN USA
> ~~~~ *}<((((*> *~~~ * }<{{{{(ö>

Frozen is closer to what they would normally eat in the wilds. I play
with a lot of sal****er fish and if it was not for my making my own
food for them I would probabnly have a heap less fish and tanks to
deal with, but fortunately making sal****er fish food is pretty darn
cheap, andm uch easier to do than making FW fish food......

For example I use fresh shrimp, fresh fish (cheapest I can find
mackeral, sea bass, porgies, etc etc) clams, scallops, mussles, squid,
rotifiers and a pack or two of NORI sheet algae, a bit of garlic
extract or even fresh ground up garlic, and Selcon......run it all
through a blender/ food processer, and then spoon it out into 6 x 6
plastic baggies and place on cookie tray and freeze into packets.
Pull a baggie of it out and break off pieces to swish around inside
the tank and as it melts particles of it float free inthe
water.....Easy to make.however the Freshwater deal is much harder, to
acquire the needed ingredieints, that are beneficial...........

Try attaching a piece of NORI (sheet Algae) to a piece of rock or
water logged drift wood for the algae eating fish to eaty in a FW
setup............mine all love Nori Sheet algae and its much cheaper
to buy than the wafers.......

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"TSJ" > wrote in message
...
Try attaching a piece of NORI (sheet Algae) to a piece of rock or
water logged drift wood for the algae eating fish to eaty in a FW
setup............mine all love Nori Sheet algae and its much cheaper
to buy than the wafers.......
============================
I still haven't seen these sheets in any of our local stores. We don't have
stores that cater to Asians. Have you seen this algae anywhere else?

I hope the prices are a little lower in the new PetsMart that's about to
open soon.
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RM....
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 14, 6:23*pm, "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
> "TSJ" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> Try attaching a piece of NORI (sheet Algae) to a piece of rock or
> water logged drift wood for the algae eating fish to eaty in a FW
> setup............mine all love Nori Sheet algae and its much cheaper
> to buy than the wafers.......
> ============================
> I still haven't seen these sheets in any of our local stores. We don't have
> stores that cater to Asians. Have you seen this algae anywhere else?
>
> I hope the prices are a little lower in the new PetsMart that's about to
> open soon.
> --
>
> RM....
> Zone 6. *Middle TN USA
> ~~~~ *}<((((*> *~~~ * }<{{{{(ö>

It is also available in a lot of health food stores. They sell it in
World Imports Store also...and IIRC I have seen it in Wally World in
the section that has asian foods etc noodles, sauces and such......
(just a small area but I distinctly seen it was listed as Asian foods
section)........The same exact algae sheets will set you back $9 or 10
bucks for a package of lesser quantity in the big box pet stores.

[atomweaver]

"Reel McKoi" > wrote in
:

>
> "TSJ" > wrote in message
> ..
> . Try attaching a piece of NORI (sheet Algae) to a piece of rock or
> water logged drift wood for the algae eating fish to eaty in a FW
> setup............mine all love Nori Sheet algae and its much cheaper
> to buy than the wafers.......
> ============================
> I still haven't seen these sheets in any of our local stores. We don't
> have stores that cater to Asians. Have you seen this algae anywhere
> else?
>
> I hope the prices are a little lower in the new PetsMart that's about
> to open soon.

Do you have a Japanese resaurant near you? Anyplace with a sushi bar is
bound to have nori by the ream... Have a meal, tell them about your
dilemma. Most are happy to sell you some.

Or, you can order online (I don't think your live plant experience will
carry over to a dried good like nori)

http://www.sushilinks.com/

DaveZ

[Tynk[_4_]]

On Jan 15, 11:15Â*am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Jan 14, 7:57�pm, Tynk > Â* Â*Ah, back to posing as
> the Imposter Tynk I see.
>
> At least this time you left actual information.

Take a ****ing hike you dick toting bitch!........no one gives a
flying **** what the hell you say anymore..............and until you
can show me you have sole legal rights to the nym you can shove that
up your ass too you moron...............

[Reel McKoi[_10_]]

"atomweaver" > wrote in message
...
> "Reel McKoi" > wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "TSJ" > wrote in message
>> ..
>> . Try attaching a piece of NORI (sheet Algae) to a piece of rock or
>> water logged drift wood for the algae eating fish to eaty in a FW
>> setup............mine all love Nori Sheet algae and its much cheaper
>> to buy than the wafers.......
>> ============================
>> I still haven't seen these sheets in any of our local stores. We don't
>> have stores that cater to Asians. Have you seen this algae anywhere
>> else?
>>
>> I hope the prices are a little lower in the new PetsMart that's about
>> to open soon.
===========================================
> Do you have a Japanese resaurant near you? Anyplace with a sushi bar is
> bound to have nori by the ream... Have a meal, tell them about your
> dilemma. Most are happy to sell you some.

None near us. We have a large Mexican population and I can get anything
that community would buy.... but we have almost no Asian people here.

> Or, you can order online (I don't think your live plant experience will
> carry over to a dried good like nori)

I heard of a restaurant supply house that supplies Chinese and Asian
eateries in Nashville I want to check out first. I was given the location
but they didn't know the name of the place. It's about 20 miles from
here........ They may even have something I'm interested in for myself.
:-)

> http://www.sushilinks.com/

Thanks for the info.

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RM....
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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