Re: Changing The Water...Tynk

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I'm glad you added your input to the people that were going to buy the 4
Oscars. You really care about our fish friends. :)

No, she did NOT tell me that I'd be needing a larger tank. :-(

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Even common feeder goldfish can reach a foot in a large clean tank or
pond. Just look at my home page http://www.richdeer3pondsupplies.com
for a picture of 2 star rose (red and white one). She was almost a
foot and 8 years old in that photo and she was a $.28 fish. You should
really take a look at the articles on the site as well.
I agree that there is a lot of well intended but misinformed people in
regards to goldfish. Just because they start small and are cheap DOES
NOT mean they can live in anything. They do tend to tolerate a wider
temp and pH range than tropicals and can start in a smaller tank.
There is a good deal of debate on tank size for goldies. Filteration
is most important than tanks size. If you need a cheap filter, look up
homemade sponge filters which work great on small tanks.
If you can't upgrade the tank size, increase the filtration and water
changes. Overfeeding causes more problems than anything eles. In a 5
gallon tank you will find a small syphon hose ( about $4) the easiest
way to go. If you take out a little every day maybe and inch or so it
should keep things in balance. Keep a gallon of dechlorinated water
near the tank. It will always be the same temp and handy for small
changes.
Tanks are not meant to be spotless but and taking it all the way apart
isn't necessary every time.It's stressful on the fish as well. Think
about how you would feel if someone chased yo out of your home,
completely rearranged and threw you back in.
I hope this info helps. You can also email me directly at
Sincerely, Gail Hopkins, Owner Richdeer3 Pond
Supplies

[ExPat]

On Feb 27, 12:55*pm, " >
wrote:
> Even common feeder goldfish can reach a foot in a large clean tank or
> pond. Just look at my home pagehttp://www.richdeer3pondsupplies.com
> for a picture of 2 star rose (red and white one). She was almost a
> foot and 8 years old in that photo and she was a $.28 fish. You should
> really take a look at the articles on the site as well.
> I agree that there is a lot of well intended but misinformed people in
> regards to goldfish. Just because they start small and are cheap DOES
> NOT mean they can live in anything. They do tend to tolerate a wider
> temp and pH range than tropicals and can start in a smaller tank.
> There is a good deal of debate on tank size for goldies. Filteration
> is most important than tanks size. If you need a cheap filter, look up
> homemade sponge filters which work great on small tanks.
> *If you can't upgrade the tank size, increase the filtration and water
> changes. Overfeeding causes more problems than anything eles. *In a 5
> gallon tank you will find a small syphon hose ( about $4) the easiest
> way to go. If you take out a little every day maybe and inch or so it
> should keep things in balance. Keep a gallon of dechlorinated water
> near the tank. It will always be the same temp and handy for small
> changes.
> Tanks are not meant to be spotless but and taking it all the way apart
> isn't necessary every time.It's stressful on the fish as well. Think
> about how you would feel if someone chased yo out of your home,
> completely rearranged and threw you back in.
> I hope this info helps. You can also email me directly at
> Sincerely, Gail Hopkins, Owner Richdeer3 Pond
> Supplies

Given the right conditoins its amazing at how large a lot of the
typical tropicals can get too. I kept a good asortment of various
tropicals in outside preforms during warmer months (which is about 10
out of 12 months) in which water is warm enough for tropicals and have
gouramis that are bigger than two hands in size..........and neons
that are an easy 2+ inches in length. Even swordtails can get
huge........

[ExPat]

On Feb 28, 9:21Â*am, Tynk > wrote:
> On Feb 27, 4:33�pm, ExPat > wrote:
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> > On Feb 27, 12:55�pm, " >
> > wrote:
>
> > > Even common feeder goldfish can reach a foot in a large clean tank or
> > > pond. Just look at my home pagehttp://www.richdeer3pondsupplies.com
> > > for a picture of 2 star rose (red and white one). She was almost a
> > > foot and 8 years old in that photo and she was a $.28 fish. You should
> > > really take a look at the articles on the site as well.
> > > I agree that there is a lot of well intended but misinformed people in
> > > regards to goldfish. Just because they start small and are cheap DOES
> > > NOT mean they can live in anything. They do tend to tolerate a wider
> > > temp and pH range than tropicals and can start in a smaller tank.
> > > There is a good deal of debate on tank size for goldies. Filteration
> > > is most important than tanks size. If you need a cheap filter, look up
> > > homemade sponge filters which work great on small tanks.
> > > �If you can't upgrade the tank size, increase the filtration and water
> > > changes. Overfeeding causes more problems than anything eles. �In a 5
> > > gallon tank you will find a small syphon hose ( about $4) the easiest
> > > way to go. If you take out a little every day maybe and inch or so it
> > > should keep things in balance. Keep a gallon of dechlorinated water
> > > near the tank. It will always be the same temp and handy for small
> > > changes.
> > > Tanks are not meant to be spotless but and taking it all the way apart
> > > isn't necessary every time.It's stressful on the fish as well. Think
> > > about how you would feel if someone chased yo out of your home,
> > > completely rearranged and threw you back in.
> > > I hope this info helps. You can also email me directly at
> > > Sincerely, Gail Hopkins, Owner Richdeer3 Pond
> > > Supplies
>
> > Given the right conditoins its amazing at how large a lot of the
> > typical tropicals can get too. I kept a good asortment of various
> > tropicals in outside preforms during warmer months (which is about 10
> > out of 12 months) in which water is warm enough for tropicals and have
> > gouramis that are bigger than two hands in size..........and neons
> > that are an easy 2+ inches in length. Even swordtails can get
> > huge........- Hide quoted text -
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> I completely agree with you on how large fish can get given a large
> body of water.
> When I see those kiddy pools you put out in the yard, I don't see my
> kids playing in them anymore. Now, I see fish "tanks"! lol
> They can be great grow out "tanks" for young fish. You do have to keep
> critters out though. You wouldn't want the fish to become food.- Hide quoted text -
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I kept a breeding pair of angels outside allthis past summer long.
They did fantastic and grew even more.......even the cory cats I put
in there got much larger. I do keep a few fish inside in the summer so
the tanks remain cycled, so they are readyto accept the outside fish
once the weather gets too cool here for them. Never had any problems
with themoutside except for my doxies wanting to jump in the preforms.
I plant all the prforms very heavy espeically around the edges with
plants you would normally findin aquariums......I have rthich beds of
spiral val, and tons of camboba (sp? ) and aponegens sp? etc etc. in
addition to typical pond plants like miniature (helvola) water lilies,
sensitive vine (grows massive hairlike submerged roots which are
fantastic for small fry to hide in and eat out of) frog bit water
celery and Iris..............We have lights under the water and each
preform has either a fountain or waterfall or both. Its much nicer
seeing a school of platys or swordtails or a nice betta or gouramis
in a whisky barrel than one or two goldies. ONe fish that we leave out
all year round no matter how cold it gets and they always do fine is
the blue paradise fish and the dojo (weather)loach. I have paradise
fish that are over 5" long and have dojo loaches that are as big
around as a ball park frank and twice as long...........all living in
preforms outside.