shubunkin

[DEM via PetKB.com]

i recently bought a shubunkin and i have other fish in the tank that r
tropical and i wanted to know if it would afect my redwag platies, mollies,
or tertras .... my local petsmart guys told my that gold fish creat a mucus
that kills other fish

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[Mel]

You really shouldnt be keeping goldfish with tropical fish. The thing about
the mucous is a load of rubbish though. Tropical and freshwater fish have
completely different needs. Also are you aware that just one goldfish should
have at least a 10 gallon tank all to itslef?
Mel.


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>i recently bought a shubunkin and i have other fish in the tank that r
> tropical and i wanted to know if it would afect my redwag platies,
> mollies,
> or tertras .... my local petsmart guys told my that gold fish creat a
> mucus
> that kills other fish
>
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[ExPat]

On Mar 18, 1:29*pm, "Mel" > wrote:
> You really shouldnt be keeping goldfish with tropical fish. The thing about
> the mucous is a load of rubbish though. Tropical and freshwater fish have
> completely different needs. Also are you aware that just one goldfish should
> have at least a 10 gallon tank all to itslef?
> Mel.
>
> "DEM via PetKB.com" <u42059@uwe> wrote in messagenews:81530001c3d27@uwe...
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> >i recently bought a shubunkin and i have other fish in the tank that r
> > tropical and i wanted to know if it would afect my redwag platies,
> > mollies,
> > or tertras .... my local petsmart guys told my that gold fish creat a
> > mucus
> > that kills other fish
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Go back and tellthat Petsmart guy he is dummer than a box of rocks
with that statement he made. Pure horsehockey. The big thing with
goldies is they have different needs as already stated above and do
not mix well with tropicals. They grow fast and grow large and need
much larger tanks even when small as they are messy
fish.......goldfish makeing killer mucus, now thats an all time first
on hearing that, and just when you thought you heard it all from those
big box pet store associates!

[DEM via PetKB.com]

WOW thx ...i didnt know it was a load of crap but u have to respect them its
there job to sound like they know what they r doing ...so much for killed
mucucs ... ill see if i can return it or give it to some one who can take
good care of it. :) when i go bak i can tell that guy off then ask him to get
me THAT fishy }<)))'> in the tank and not THAT one and see how long that
takes >:) ....

ExPat wrote:
>> You really shouldnt be keeping goldfish with tropical fish. The thing about
>> the mucous is a load of rubbish though. Tropical and freshwater fish have
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>Go back and tellthat Petsmart guy he is dummer than a box of rocks
>with that statement he made. Pure horsehockey. The big thing with
>goldies is they have different needs as already stated above and do
>not mix well with tropicals. They grow fast and grow large and need
>much larger tanks even when small as they are messy
>fish.......goldfish makeing killer mucus, now thats an all time first
>on hearing that, and just when you thought you heard it all from those
>big box pet store associates!

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[ExPat]

On Mar 18, 11:16*pm, "DEM via PetKB.com" <u42059@uwe> wrote:
> WOW thx ...i didnt know it was a load of crap but u have to respect them its
> there job to sound like they know what they r doing ...so much for killed
> mucucs ... ill see if i can return it or give it to some one who can take
> good care of it. :) when i go bak i can tell that guy off then ask him to get
> me THAT fishy }<)))'> in the tank and not THAT one and see how long that
> takes >:) ....
>
> ExPat wrote:
> >> You really shouldnt be keeping goldfish with tropical fish. The thing about
> >> the mucous is a load of rubbish though. Tropical and freshwater fish have
> >[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
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> >> - Show quoted text -
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> >Go back and tellthat Petsmart guy he is dummer than a box of rocks
> >with that statement he made. Pure horsehockey. The big thing with
> >goldies is they have different needs as already stated above and do
> >not mix well with tropicals. They grow fast and grow large and need
> >much larger tanks even when small as they are messy
> >fish.......goldfish makeing killer mucus, now thats an all time first
> >on hearing that, and just when you thought you heard it all from those
> >big box pet store associates!
>
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Its just best to ignore the idiots and just let them ramble on. Its
good cheap entertainment in a lot of cases. As for them and their
ability to net a fish. Thats a whole other ballgame. I have seen
employees get so frustrated that they start slinging a net all which
ways, finally net the fish and wind up missing the collection
container or bag, fish wind up on floor, etc etc. I woiuld give the
clerk a chance to catch what fish I wanted, and if it was un cuaught
in short order, I wuld tell em to forget it, as you do not want a
stressed out fish to contend with. Best to come back another day for
it and hop[e someone that knows how to net a fish is there instead of
the idiot that merely swipes a net around. I have seen clerks net
fish and reach into the net with their hands to grab the fish and
place in bag etc etc.Thats a no no, as is any time a fish hits the
floor or touches bare hands I tellem to forget it that your no longer
interested........and then go turn em in to the manager (not that they
will always do anything about it though)

[DEM via PetKB.com]

if they cant cache the fish in a mater of mins i tell them to hand over the
net if i like the fish enough ...
Tynk wrote:
>my local petsmart guys told my that gold fish creat a mucus
>> that kills other fish
>
>Ah ha ha ha ha = )~
>Oh I haven't had a good laugh like that in a while.
>Like Expat, I've not heard that one before either, and I've heard
>enough crap from shop employees to fill the Grand Canyon up.

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you can also tell them to simply move the net very slowly. or keep one net still and
move the fish toward it with another.

Actually, a WET hand is better than a net, it is less likely to strip scales or slime
coat. best is to use your hand to move a fish towards the plastic bag.

Ingrid

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:34:37 -0700 (PDT), ExPat > wrote:
you do not want a
>stressed out fish to contend with. Best to come back another day for
>it and hop[e someone that knows how to net a fish is there instead of
>the idiot that merely swipes a net around. I have seen clerks net
>fish and reach into the net with their hands to grab the fish and
>place in bag etc etc.Thats a no no, as is any time a fish hits the
>floor or touches bare hands I tellem to forget it that your no longer
>interested........and then go turn em in to the manager (not that they
>will always do anything about it though)

[ExPat]

On Mar 20, 6:25*pm, wrote:
> you can also tell them to simply move the net very slowly. *or keep one net still and
> move the fish toward it with another. *
>
> Actually, a WET hand is better than a net, it is less likely to strip scales or slime
> coat. *best is to use your hand to move a fish towards the plastic bag. *
>
> Ingrid
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Yes that is true, but face it.I for one sure do not want any big box
petstore employee usujing his or her hands to grab my fish. No telling
what they were doing prior to being called by management to net a fish
for a customer. They could have been out back spraying weedkiller or
placing ant poison or using disenfectant to clean bird or rodent
cages....
Worst I have seens o far was a employee of Deathco wildly swinging a
net in both hands while pursuing a school of neons. No luck, and he
finally removed everything that was not nailed down from that tank and
went at it again. He would get a net ful after baracading the neons
with a couple of more nets, and then arbitrarily dump them into the
bag he had placed in the colleciton container, on the FLOOR no less
and most fish would miss the container, and land on the floor, and lay
there until he made another fruitless swoop of the nets and collection
container, then he would stop and pick them up like dropped coins. No
telliong what damages he imparted o nthem with his fingernails and
finger tips etc, trying to pick up those little slick fish with his
fingers off that nasty dirty floor. HIs reply was thats why we have a
14 day replacement policy in case any die on customers. They got
pitched into the collection container or back into the display tank
only to be netted and sold to some other unsuspecting
customer........and folks wonder why a lot of big box store fish just
up and die for no apparaent reason. I had another deathco employee get
called from out front of the store where he was smoking a cigarete to
net me a common damsel fish. I told him in so many word, if he does
not get it in so many minutes or tires forget it, and if he does net
it and he puts his hands on it, don;t even bother bagging it,a s I do
not want it....What do you think he did.......barricaded the fish and
used a big huge net to squeeze it into that tasnk and get the fish
and then after telling him to keep his nasty hands off the fish he
reaches into the net and pulls out the fish and tosses it into the
collection container only to miss and have it hit the floor from about
4 feet up..........It wound up back in the tank onbly to momre than
likely die from the typical treatment Deathco folks impart on
allliving critters/.......Bare hands yes with folks that now what they
are doing is fine, and for most even nets are a no no.