Volitan Lions invading the Caribean

[Rob Schuh]

I don't know how many have seen these stories, but Volitan Lions are
becoming a HUGE problem from the Bahamas all the way up to MA. During the
winter, they die up north, but they are making a huge dent in the small fish
populations. I grew up in Ft. Lauderdale and heard stories of Lionfish
sightings going back to the late 70s, but if they were true, it was one fish
that someone let out of a tank. They think that after Hurricane Andrew in
1992 a large # escaped and the DNA of 90% of these specimens goes back to
only 6 individuals. Another problem with this invasion is that since the
Lionfish has no natural predator there, they are growing larger than normal.
The largest they normally get in the pacific is 14". They recently found a #
of 17" specimens. Right now, Bermuda is on the cutting edge of eradicating
this invader. IF they could keep the population in check, it would be a new
and close source for Lionfish for the Aquarium trade, but many marine
biologists believe they have to get rid of all of them because of their
voracious appetite. One 12" Lionfish was found with 26 small grunts in it's
belly. They have evolved to gorge themselves when food is available because
pacific fish see them as predators where the Atlantic fish don't. Many
divers say the small fish swim right up to the Lionfish and get swallowed up
just like a gold fish does. I would hate to be working as any type of animal
control agent in S. FL right now. Not only have they had problems for years
with Peacock bass taking over lakes, but now they have the lionfish problem
and the Burmese python explosion. At least they have a large natural
predator for the python in the alligator, but it looks like man is going to
have to go out and start to harvest the Lionfish as much as possible. We
are talking about a few either. I have seen numerous videos where there are
6-10 Lionfish swimming around one large coral head. You can tell that it is
not a video from the pacific as they are swimming through rows of Elkshorn
coral. Besides these, there are many places where you can go throughout the
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area and see entire flocks of wild Macaws, Quaker
Parakeets and many other foreign birds that have been let go. Luckily, the
birds don't hurt the environment. These Lionfish are everywhere. A buddy of
mine took his Zodiac off the beach just south of Ft. Lauderdale's main strip
and saw 3 Lionfish. So far, it only seems to be the Volitan Lionfish.

--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

[John Smith[_3_]]

On Oct 13, 4:57*pm, "Rob Schuh" > wrote:
> I don't know how many have seen these stories, but Volitan Lions are
> becoming a HUGE problem from the Bahamas all the way up to MA. During the
> winter, they die up north, but they are making a huge dent in the small fish
> populations. I grew up in Ft. Lauderdale and heard stories of Lionfish
> sightings going back to the late 70s, but if they were true, it was one fish
> that someone let out of a tank. They think that after Hurricane Andrew in
> 1992 a large # escaped and the DNA of 90% of these specimens goes back to
> only 6 individuals. Another problem with this invasion is that since the
> Lionfish has no natural predator there, they are growing larger than normal.
> The largest they normally get in the pacific is 14". They recently found a #
> of 17" specimens. Right now, Bermuda is on the cutting edge of eradicating
> this invader. IF they could keep the population in check, it would be a new
> and close source for Lionfish for the Aquarium trade, but many marine
> biologists believe they have to get rid of all of them because of their
> voracious appetite. One 12" Lionfish was found with 26 small grunts in it's
> belly. They have evolved to gorge themselves when food is available because
> pacific fish see them as predators where the Atlantic fish don't. Many
> divers say the small fish swim right up to the Lionfish and get swallowed up
> just like a gold fish does. I would hate to be working as any type of animal
> control agent in S. FL right now. Not only have they had problems for years
> with Peacock bass taking over lakes, but now they have the lionfish problem
> and the Burmese python explosion. At least they have a large natural
> predator for the python in the alligator, but it looks like man is going to
> have to go out and start to harvest the Lionfish as much *as possible. We
> are talking about a few either. I have seen numerous videos where there are
> 6-10 Lionfish swimming around one large coral head. You can tell that it is
> not a video from the pacific as they are swimming through rows of Elkshorn
> coral. Besides these, there are many places where you can go throughout the
> Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area and see entire flocks of wild Macaws, Quaker
> Parakeets and many other foreign birds that have been let go. Luckily, the
> birds don't hurt the environment. These Lionfish are everywhere. A buddy of
> mine took his Zodiac off the beach just south of Ft. Lauderdale's main strip
> and saw 3 Lionfish. So far, it only seems to be the Volitan Lionfish.
>
> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> *intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> *the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> *the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> *- Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

And just where is this big problem been verified other than assholes
getting carried away with adjectives when they repeat posts that were
made well over a year or two ago. Its no more of a problem dude than
your momma giving it away for free. If she can dealw ith it so should
you, and thoe lion fish are not a big deal anyhow..........get over it
dude go find another gorup to spew your old drival in where someone
might actually give a **** about it. I can assure you no one here
gives a flying rats ass one way or the other about it.

[Rob Schuh]

"John Smith" > wrote in message
...
On Oct 13, 4:57 pm, "Rob Schuh" > wrote:
> I don't know how many have seen these stories, but Volitan Lions are
> becoming a HUGE problem from the Bahamas all the way up to MA. During the
> winter, they die up north, but they are making a huge dent in the small
> fish
> populations. I grew up in Ft. Lauderdale and heard stories of Lionfish
> sightings going back to the late 70s, but if they were true, it was one
> fish
> that someone let out of a tank. They think that after Hurricane Andrew in
> 1992 a large # escaped and the DNA of 90% of these specimens goes back to
> only 6 individuals. Another problem with this invasion is that since the
> Lionfish has no natural predator there, they are growing larger than
> normal.
> The largest they normally get in the pacific is 14". They recently found a
> #
> of 17" specimens. Right now, Bermuda is on the cutting edge of eradicating
> this invader. IF they could keep the population in check, it would be a
> new
> and close source for Lionfish for the Aquarium trade, but many marine
> biologists believe they have to get rid of all of them because of their
> voracious appetite. One 12" Lionfish was found with 26 small grunts in
> it's
> belly. They have evolved to gorge themselves when food is available
> because
> pacific fish see them as predators where the Atlantic fish don't. Many
> divers say the small fish swim right up to the Lionfish and get swallowed
> up
> just like a gold fish does. I would hate to be working as any type of
> animal
> control agent in S. FL right now. Not only have they had problems for
> years
> with Peacock bass taking over lakes, but now they have the lionfish
> problem
> and the Burmese python explosion. At least they have a large natural
> predator for the python in the alligator, but it looks like man is going
> to
> have to go out and start to harvest the Lionfish as much as possible. We
> are talking about a few either. I have seen numerous videos where there
> are
> 6-10 Lionfish swimming around one large coral head. You can tell that it
> is
> not a video from the pacific as they are swimming through rows of Elkshorn
> coral. Besides these, there are many places where you can go throughout
> the
> Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area and see entire flocks of wild Macaws, Quaker
> Parakeets and many other foreign birds that have been let go. Luckily, the
> birds don't hurt the environment. These Lionfish are everywhere. A buddy
> of
> mine took his Zodiac off the beach just south of Ft. Lauderdale's main
> strip
> and saw 3 Lionfish. So far, it only seems to be the Volitan Lionfish.
>
> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

And just where is this big problem been verified other than assholes
getting carried away with adjectives when they repeat posts that were
made well over a year or two ago. Its no more of a problem dude than
your momma giving it away for free. If she can dealw ith it so should
you, and thoe lion fish are not a big deal anyhow..........get over it
dude go find another gorup to spew your old drival in where someone
might actually give a **** about it. I can assure you no one here
gives a flying rats ass one way or the other about it.


Tell me **** talking anonymous pussy. It is painfully obvious that you know
nothing about reefs or aquariums, so you post post this type of troll
detritus. I suggest you butch the **** up, grow some balls, post your real
name and give some credentials other than cowardice. BTW, how far did you
get in school, 3rd grade? I suggest you educate yourself. Have you ever
dived on a reef in S. FL? Ask Julian Sprung what he thinks. Ever heard of
what happened with the Peacock Bass is S. FL? Moron.


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

[John Smith[_3_]]

On Oct 31, 6:13*pm, "Rob Schuh" > wrote:
> "John Smith" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Oct 13, 4:57 pm, "Rob Schuh" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I don't know how many have seen these stories, but Volitan Lions are
> > becoming a HUGE problem from the Bahamas all the way up to MA. During the
> > winter, they die up north, but they are making a huge dent in the small
> > fish
> > populations. I grew up in Ft. Lauderdale and heard stories of Lionfish
> > sightings going back to the late 70s, but if they were true, it was one
> > fish
> > that someone let out of a tank. They think that after Hurricane Andrew in
> > 1992 a large # escaped and the DNA of 90% of these specimens goes back to
> > only 6 individuals. Another problem with this invasion is that since the
> > Lionfish has no natural predator there, they are growing larger than
> > normal.
> > The largest they normally get in the pacific is 14". They recently found a
> > #
> > of 17" specimens. Right now, Bermuda is on the cutting edge of eradicating
> > this invader. IF they could keep the population in check, it would be a
> > new
> > and close source for Lionfish for the Aquarium trade, but many marine
> > biologists believe they have to get rid of all of them because of their
> > voracious appetite. One 12" Lionfish was found with 26 small grunts in
> > it's
> > belly. They have evolved to gorge themselves when food is available
> > because
> > pacific fish see them as predators where the Atlantic fish don't. Many
> > divers say the small fish swim right up to the Lionfish and get swallowed
> > up
> > just like a gold fish does. I would hate to be working as any type of
> > animal
> > control agent in S. FL right now. Not only have they had problems for
> > years
> > with Peacock bass taking over lakes, but now they have the lionfish
> > problem
> > and the Burmese python explosion. At least they have a large natural
> > predator for the python in the alligator, but it looks like man is going
> > to
> > have to go out and start to harvest the Lionfish as much as possible. We
> > are talking about a few either. I have seen numerous videos where there
> > are
> > 6-10 Lionfish swimming around one large coral head. You can tell that it
> > is
> > not a video from the pacific as they are swimming through rows of Elkshorn
> > coral. Besides these, there are many places where you can go throughout
> > the
> > Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area and see entire flocks of wild Macaws, Quaker
> > Parakeets and many other foreign birds that have been let go. Luckily, the
> > birds don't hurt the environment. These Lionfish are everywhere. A buddy
> > of
> > mine took his Zodiac off the beach just south of Ft. Lauderdale's main
> > strip
> > and saw 3 Lionfish. So far, it only seems to be the Volitan Lionfish.
>
> > --
> > Robert Schuh
> > "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> > intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> > the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> > the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> > - Nietzsche
>
> >http://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>
> And just where is this big problem *been verified other than assholes
> getting carried away with adjectives when they repeat posts that were
> made well over a year or two ago. Its no more of a problem dude than
> your momma giving it away for free. If she can dealw ith it so should
> you, and thoe lion fish are not a big deal anyhow..........get over it
> dude go find another gorup to spew your old drival in *where someone
> might actually give a **** about it. I can assure you no one here
> gives a flying rats ass one way or the other about it.
>
> Tell me **** talking anonymous pussy. It is painfully obvious that you know
> nothing about reefs or aquariums, so you post post this type of troll
> detritus. I suggest you butch the **** up, grow some balls, post your real
> name and give some credentials other than cowardice. BTW, how far did you
> get in school, 3rd grade? I suggest you educate yourself. Have you ever
> dived on a reef in S. FL? Ask Julian Sprung what he thinks. Ever heard of
> what happened with the Peacock Bass is S. FL? Moron.
>
> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> *intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> *the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> *the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> *- Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Who gives a flying **** other than you asshole. YOu do dive the reef,
I'll hang back and **** your momma and wife..........Both love giving
head anyhow, but your momma is a a bit of a showoff.She loves to
gargle before swallowing.......guess thatcomes form eyars of
experience huh? Too bad she did not breast feed you as she has some
nice tits, and its a shame yo habd to b e raised by your daddy and
nurse off his dick....Makes you a real cock sucker huh?

[wolfdogg[_5_]]

Rob Schuh wrote:
> I don't know how many have seen these stories, but Volitan Lions are
> becoming a HUGE problem from the Bahamas all the way up to MA. During the
> winter, they die up north, but they are making a huge dent in the small fish
> populations. I grew up in Ft. Lauderdale and heard stories of Lionfish
> sightings going back to the late 70s, but if they were true, it was one fish
> that someone let out of a tank. They think that after Hurricane Andrew in
> 1992 a large # escaped and the DNA of 90% of these specimens goes back to
> only 6 individuals. Another problem with this invasion is that since the
> Lionfish has no natural predator there, they are growing larger than normal.
> The largest they normally get in the pacific is 14". They recently found a #
> of 17" specimens. Right now, Bermuda is on the cutting edge of eradicating
> this invader. IF they could keep the population in check, it would be a new
> and close source for Lionfish for the Aquarium trade, but many marine
> biologists believe they have to get rid of all of them because of their
> voracious appetite. One 12" Lionfish was found with 26 small grunts in it's
> belly. They have evolved to gorge themselves when food is available because
> pacific fish see them as predators where the Atlantic fish don't. Many
> divers say the small fish swim right up to the Lionfish and get swallowed up
> just like a gold fish does. I would hate to be working as any type of animal
> control agent in S. FL right now. Not only have they had problems for years
> with Peacock bass taking over lakes, but now they have the lionfish problem
> and the Burmese python explosion. At least they have a large natural
> predator for the python in the alligator, but it looks like man is going to
> have to go out and start to harvest the Lionfish as much as possible. We
> are talking about a few either. I have seen numerous videos where there are
> 6-10 Lionfish swimming around one large coral head. You can tell that it is
> not a video from the pacific as they are swimming through rows of Elkshorn
> coral. Besides these, there are many places where you can go throughout the
> Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area and see entire flocks of wild Macaws, Quaker
> Parakeets and many other foreign birds that have been let go. Luckily, the
> birds don't hurt the environment. These Lionfish are everywhere. A buddy of
> mine took his Zodiac off the beach just south of Ft. Lauderdale's main strip
> and saw 3 Lionfish. So far, it only seems to be the Volitan Lionfish.
>
this sucks, too bad for the environment, hopefully a larger predator
will reproduce enough to eradicate them before the lionfish run out of a
natural food supply

[John Smith[_4_]]

On Nov 1, 10:48*am, John Smith > wrote:
> On Oct 31, 6:13*pm, "Rob Schuh" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "John Smith" > wrote in message
>
> ....
> > On Oct 13, 4:57 pm, "Rob Schuh" > wrote:
>
> > > I don't know how many have seen these stories, but Volitan Lions are
> > > becoming a HUGE problem from the Bahamas all the way up to MA. During the
> > > winter, they die up north, but they are making a huge dent in the small
> > > fish
> > > populations. I grew up in Ft. Lauderdale and heard stories of Lionfish
> > > sightings going back to the late 70s, but if they were true, it was one
> > > fish
> > > that someone let out of a tank. They think that after Hurricane Andrew in
> > > 1992 a large # escaped and the DNA of 90% of these specimens goes back to
> > > only 6 individuals. Another problem with this invasion is that since the
> > > Lionfish has no natural predator there, they are growing larger than
> > > normal.
> > > The largest they normally get in the pacific is 14". They recently found a
> > > #
> > > of 17" specimens. Right now, Bermuda is on the cutting edge of eradicating
> > > this invader. IF they could keep the population in check, it would be a
> > > new
> > > and close source for Lionfish for the Aquarium trade, but many marine
> > > biologists believe they have to get rid of all of them because of their
> > > voracious appetite. One 12" Lionfish was found with 26 small grunts in
> > > it's
> > > belly. They have evolved to gorge themselves when food is available
> > > because
> > > pacific fish see them as predators where the Atlantic fish don't. Many
> > > divers say the small fish swim right up to the Lionfish and get swallowed
> > > up
> > > just like a gold fish does. I would hate to be working as any type of
> > > animal
> > > control agent in S. FL right now. Not only have they had problems for
> > > years
> > > with Peacock bass taking over lakes, but now they have the lionfish
> > > problem
> > > and the Burmese python explosion. At least they have a large natural
> > > predator for the python in the alligator, but it looks like man is going
> > > to
> > > have to go out and start to harvest the Lionfish as much as possible. We
> > > are talking about a few either. I have seen numerous videos where there
> > > are
> > > 6-10 Lionfish swimming around one large coral head. You can tell that it
> > > is
> > > not a video from the pacific as they are swimming through rows of Elkshorn
> > > coral. Besides these, there are many places where you can go throughout
> > > the
> > > Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area and see entire flocks of wild Macaws, Quaker
> > > Parakeets and many other foreign birds that have been let go. Luckily, the
> > > birds don't hurt the environment. These Lionfish are everywhere. A buddy
> > > of
> > > mine took his Zodiac off the beach just south of Ft. Lauderdale's main
> > > strip
> > > and saw 3 Lionfish. So far, it only seems to be the Volitan Lionfish.
>
> > > --
> > > Robert Schuh
> > > "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> > > intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> > > the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> > > the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> > > - Nietzsche
>
> > >http://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>
> > And just where is this big problem *been verified other than assholes
> > getting carried away with adjectives when they repeat posts that were
> > made well over a year or two ago. Its no more of a problem dude than
> > your momma giving it away for free. If she can dealw ith it so should
> > you, and thoe lion fish are not a big deal anyhow..........get over it
> > dude go find another gorup to spew your old drival in *where someone
> > might actually give a **** about it. I can assure you no one here
> > gives a flying rats ass one way or the other about it.
>
> > Tell me **** talking anonymous pussy. It is painfully obvious that you know
> > nothing about reefs or aquariums, so you post post this type of troll
> > detritus. I suggest you butch the **** up, grow some balls, post your real
> > name and give some credentials other than cowardice. BTW, how far did you
> > get in school, 3rd grade? I suggest you educate yourself. Have you ever
> > dived on a reef in S. FL? Ask Julian Sprung what he thinks. Ever heard of
> > what happened with the Peacock Bass is S. FL? Moron.
>
> > --
> > Robert Schuh
> > "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> > *intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> > *the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> > *the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> > *- Nietzsche
>
> >http://www.hardbopdrums.com/-Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Who gives a flying **** other than you asshole. YOu do dive the reef,
> I'll hang back and **** your momma and wife..........Both love giving
> head anyhow, but your momma is a a bit of a showoff.She loves to
> gargle before swallowing.......guess thatcomes form eyars of
> experience huh? Too bad she did not breast feed you as she has some
> nice tits, and its a shame yo habd to b e raised by your daddy and
> nurse off his dick....Makes you a real cock sucker huh?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LIkew the above reply stated to begin with.lalalalala who really gives
a **** if purple polka dotted reef sharks invade .I sure don't and I
am sure more do not care than those that think they care.