black spots?

[Mel]

I have 2 orandas which haven't been themselves lately and are now exhibiting
tiny pin prick jet black spots over their fins and bodies (almost ich like
in appearance but not white). One of them also has areas of what looks like
dark bruising on his pectoral and anal fin, and the other has a patch of red
under his chin which doesn't appear to be an open wound. It looks as if it's
beneath the skin.
My water parameters are ammonia 0, very very slight traces of nitrite, and
15 nitrate (the tank has almost finished cycling).
Anyone have any idea what could be wrong with them?

Mel.

[Geezer From The Freezer]

IF the tank was in cycle process when they were put in, they may have been
poisoned.


Mel wrote:
>
> I have 2 orandas which haven't been themselves lately and are now exhibiting
> tiny pin prick jet black spots over their fins and bodies (almost ich like
> in appearance but not white). One of them also has areas of what looks like
> dark bruising on his pectoral and anal fin, and the other has a patch of red
> under his chin which doesn't appear to be an open wound. It looks as if it's
> beneath the skin.
> My water parameters are ammonia 0, very very slight traces of nitrite, and
> 15 nitrate (the tank has almost finished cycling).
> Anyone have any idea what could be wrong with them?
>
> Mel.

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Since you are just finishing the cycling, the black spots could be healing ammonia
burns. Keep up the water changes, add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons. I am not sure
about the dark bruising, but what else do you have in the tank, has there been any
spawning activity, have you seen the fish dash around in the tank?
Ingrid

"Mel" > wrote:

>I have 2 orandas which haven't been themselves lately and are now exhibiting
>tiny pin prick jet black spots over their fins and bodies (almost ich like
>in appearance but not white). One of them also has areas of what looks like
>dark bruising on his pectoral and anal fin, and the other has a patch of red
>under his chin which doesn't appear to be an open wound. It looks as if it's
>beneath the skin.
>My water parameters are ammonia 0, very very slight traces of nitrite, and
>15 nitrate (the tank has almost finished cycling).
>Anyone have any idea what could be wrong with them?
>
>Mel.
>



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[Mel]

The black spots aren't like those you would expect from ammonia burns. they
are tiny pin prick size and scattered evenly all over fins and scales. There
is something called black spot disease which I think it could be. If it is,
although it doesn't look nice, apparently it isn't harmful. The bruising
got extremely bad and after investigating further I found that it was
probably septicaemia. I have since treated with anti internal bacteria and
it has improved. Fingers crossed she will make a full recovery.
Mel.
> wrote in message
...
> Since you are just finishing the cycling, the black spots could be healing
ammonia
> burns. Keep up the water changes, add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons. I
am not sure
> about the dark bruising, but what else do you have in the tank, has there
been any
> spawning activity, have you seen the fish dash around in the tank?
> Ingrid
>
> "Mel" > wrote:
>
> >I have 2 orandas which haven't been themselves lately and are now
exhibiting
> >tiny pin prick jet black spots over their fins and bodies (almost ich
like
> >in appearance but not white). One of them also has areas of what looks
like
> >dark bruising on his pectoral and anal fin, and the other has a patch of
red
> >under his chin which doesn't appear to be an open wound. It looks as if
it's
> >beneath the skin.
> >My water parameters are ammonia 0, very very slight traces of nitrite,
and
> >15 nitrate (the tank has almost finished cycling).
> >Anyone have any idea what could be wrong with them?
> >
> >Mel.
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.