Re: Raccoon Repellent

[bobkiely]

I thought about that - in fact I was almost out the door to buy a dozen of
them when I realized that even though I haven't see froggy for about 6 weeks
now, being he was my favorite creature in the pond, I'd hate to find him
stuck in a mouse trap. That's when I came up (with what someone named) ,
"The MacGuyver electric COON-B-Q".
BK
"EliezerE" > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone tried putting a bunch of mouse traps around their ponds? They
> helped me scare the coons away, and I haven't found any squirrel paws or
bird
> beaks in them, so they don't seem to be hurting the local fauna.

[K30a]

I've heard of putting upside down mousetraps around the pond to scare herons.

Tell more about your experience. Did you hear them when they encountered the
traps? --
(@#$%%!@#*&!!!!!! ;-)

Did you find traps that had been tripped?
When they left did your traps stay untripped later on?


k30a

[EliezerE]

I found them tripped in the morning several times, and then they pretty much
were left alone and remained untripped, unless there was a heavy rain, which
did trip them. My plants have been left alone since I put them out. Theyre
pretty ugly, though. I was thinking of spray painting them a decorator black.
And I have to take them in whenever there might be children around.

[infoseeker]

Long message warning : ] This is so funny, because I posted on
alt.garden.pond.chat about my raccoon problem a few days ago.. First time
I've been on Ngroups in a while. I was perusing the articles there, and
saw - where is everyone?- and it suggested this site, so with contined no
response, I thought I'd check here.

Well, here I am- first looksie, and I see this long thread about raccoons!
My very problem!

Well, there hasn't been any response to my query on alt.garden. so I hunted
around town and found a water garden nursery, and guess what they
suggested -- COYOTE URINE! I paid $17, normally 19. I haven't tried it
yet, because, well, frankly, it is weird. we've had lots of jokes, and I'm
a bit scared of attracting real coyotes (who used to live in this area- &
prob still do a few miles away).

The nursery's other suggestion: get rid of water hyacinth- the only plant
coons are attracted to. So I did an experiment, and last night the raccoons
decimated my bowl with hyacinth in it in the backyard, and swiped a water
lily flower from the wkiskey barrel in front yard, but no other damage.

So, you might also try removing your hyacinths "bobkiely" . I feel better
about the coyote urine now. I guess I'll give it a try and buy some more
fish (the coons had gobbled all my fish and turned over 2 plants in my newly
set up whiskey barrel!) Any tips for leaky barrels besides a stiff ugly
liner? I'll try the mouse traps too.

B-infoseeker

[infoseeker]

Hey Hank,
My raccoon family (on their 2nd attack) ate only the water lily bud- but no
overturned pots. I don't have fish yet again (total all you can eat
buffet). I wonder if they are attracted to the lily flowers. They also
totally ruined an experiemental pot with water hyancith (I was told coons
like it). So I wonder if lily's should also be on that list. Sheesh!

Before eating the hyacinths again, they hadn't come around for a few days,
which makes me wonder if they only "hit" every few night or so. Or, they
were stuffed after eating my fish and parts of plants, and needed a few days
breather.

So, I'm sympathizing with you!
B

"Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
...
> OOOPS! Did I say the P word? Sorry, I was upset and I think it has
> been a long time since there has been a coyote at the New Jersey shore
> so I don't think the odor would say predator to the raccoons. #2 is
> now sharing a waterfront condo with #1 at a local state park. If I
> were a raccoon I would want to live there.
> The trap is set again. I hope my plants can withstand another
> attack.
>
> http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
>
> "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> news:CJVOa.28$lW1.5@fed1read07...
> > Hank: 3 straight nights now since I marked my territory with CP and
> no
> > visits from the Raccoons. (Fingers crossed/knock on wood) I even
> took down
> > my soft drink can pyramid (well today is trash day too).
> > BK
> > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > > Number two in trap!!!!!! The rest of the family trashed the pond,
> They
> > > even ate all the flowers and buds from all the lilies. I think I
> need
> > > more traps. All of the older fish seem ok. (We have not had
> bonding
> > > sessions with the smaller GF yet.) It seemed as if all were
> present
> > > for their orange slice this morning.
> > > I think the family is getting angry. They overturned
> several
> > > potted plants in yard and finished their raid with a refreshing
> dip in
> > > the swimming pool.
> > > Well, time to take #2 to be with his sibling.
> > > At $16. that coyote **** is starting to sound like a
> bargain.
> > >
> > > http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
> > > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Well one raccoon relocated. Found him a nice spot by a lake. He
> was
> > > > kind-of small, and cute as he stuck his human-like little paw
> out of
> > > > the cage as if to say, "Come closer so I can RIP YOUR LIPS OFF"!
> > > > ...... I reset the trap ..... I have a strong feeling Mama and
> > > family
> > > > are nearby waiting to have another swim and buffet in Hank's
> Puddle.
> > > > ........ Let us know how the "Midnight under a coyote" cologne
> > > works.
> > > > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > For $16 you should have gotten the whole coyote! It is
> supposed to
> > > > > work if there are coyotes in your area. The coon may just
> think it
> > > > is
> > > > > cheap cologne if it does not recognize it as a predator. I
> looked
> > > > out
> > > > > this morning to one furry bandit in a Hav-a-heart. I think
> I'll
> > > take
> > > > > the little guy to the park today. Good luck with yours. I
> > > hope
> > > > I
> > > > > only have one.
> > > > > "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> > > > > news:nQrOa.99793$%42.80004@fed1read06...
> > > > > > I know some of you will think I'm just kidding due to my
> recent
> > > > > run-ins with
> > > > > > the raccoon but this is serious - no kidding.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yesterday I was at Petco and was talking to the guy in the
> fish
> > > > > department
> > > > > > and I mentioned I had a pond. He tells me that he used to
> but
> > > gave
> > > > > it up due
> > > > > > to being constantly trashed by the raccoons. So I mentioned
> to
> > > him
> > > > > that I
> > > > > > had 4 visits from coons in the last week and I was thinking
> of
> > > > > trading in
> > > > > > the goldfish and koi for 200 4" piranhas to remedy the
> problem.
> > > > (OK
> > > > > I can't
> > > > > > help it - just kidding about that part).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So he tells me I should get some coyote urine...that if it
> was
> > > > > available
> > > > > > when he had the problem, he's probably still have his pond.
> For
> > > a
> > > > > second I
> > > > > > thought HE was kidding and I said, "You said coyote urine?"
> He
> > > > said
> > > > > that
> > > > > > they sell it across the street at Green Thumb Nursery. So I
> went
> > > > > over there
> > > > > > and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers. Last
> > > night
> > > > > was the
> > > > > > first time I used it and didn't have a visit - coincidence?
> I
> > > > don't
> > > > > know but
> > > > > > I had to try it even if it was $16.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anybody else hear of it? And it IS actual 100% pure coyote
> > > urine,
> > > > > not some
> > > > > > chemical (according to them). I'll take their word for it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They have a web site: http://www.legupenterprises.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BK
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[mad]

soooo, an electric fence is out of the question for you?
mad
--
"Ninety eight percent of the adults in this country are decent,
hardworking, honest Americans. It's the other lousy two percent
that get all the publicity. But then, we elected them."
Lily Tomlin

> From: "Hank Pagel" >
> Reply-To: "Hank Pagel" >
> Newsgroups: rec.ponds
> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:32:29 -0400
> Subject: Re: Raccoon Repellent
>
> Number two in trap!!!!!! The rest of the family trashed the pond, They
> even ate all the flowers and buds from all the lilies. I think I need
> more traps. All of the older fish seem ok. (We have not had bonding
> sessions with the smaller GF yet.) It seemed as if all were present
> for their orange slice this morning.
> I think the family is getting angry. They overturned several
> potted plants in yard and finished their raid with a refreshing dip in
> the swimming pool.
> Well, time to take #2 to be with his sibling.
> At $16. that coyote **** is starting to sound like a bargain.
>
> http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
> "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Well one raccoon relocated. Found him a nice spot by a lake. He was
>> kind-of small, and cute as he stuck his human-like little paw out of
>> the cage as if to say, "Come closer so I can RIP YOUR LIPS OFF"!
>> ...... I reset the trap ..... I have a strong feeling Mama and
> family
>> are nearby waiting to have another swim and buffet in Hank's Puddle.
>> ........ Let us know how the "Midnight under a coyote" cologne
> works.
>> "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> For $16 you should have gotten the whole coyote! It is supposed to
>>> work if there are coyotes in your area. The coon may just think it
>> is
>>> cheap cologne if it does not recognize it as a predator. I looked
>> out
>>> this morning to one furry bandit in a Hav-a-heart. I think I'll
> take
>>> the little guy to the park today. Good luck with yours. I
> hope
>> I
>>> only have one.
>>> "bobkiely" > wrote in message
>>> news:nQrOa.99793$%42.80004@fed1read06...
>>>> I know some of you will think I'm just kidding due to my recent
>>> run-ins with
>>>> the raccoon but this is serious - no kidding.
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I was at Petco and was talking to the guy in the fish
>>> department
>>>> and I mentioned I had a pond. He tells me that he used to but
> gave
>>> it up due
>>>> to being constantly trashed by the raccoons. So I mentioned to
> him
>>> that I
>>>> had 4 visits from coons in the last week and I was thinking of
>>> trading in
>>>> the goldfish and koi for 200 4" piranhas to remedy the problem.
>> (OK
>>> I can't
>>>> help it - just kidding about that part).
>>>>
>>>> So he tells me I should get some coyote urine...that if it was
>>> available
>>>> when he had the problem, he's probably still have his pond. For
> a
>>> second I
>>>> thought HE was kidding and I said, "You said coyote urine?" He
>> said
>>> that
>>>> they sell it across the street at Green Thumb Nursery. So I went
>>> over there
>>>> and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers. Last
> night
>>> was the
>>>> first time I used it and didn't have a visit - coincidence? I
>> don't
>>> know but
>>>> I had to try it even if it was $16.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody else hear of it? And it IS actual 100% pure coyote
> urine,
>>> not some
>>>> chemical (according to them). I'll take their word for it.
>>>>
>>>> They have a web site: http://www.legupenterprises.com
>>>>
>>>> BK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



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[Hank Pagel]

BK, I'm sorry but something you said keeps sticking in my mind ....."
So I went
> > > over there
> > > > and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers."
Somehow I keep picturing the original dispenser the coyote used, in a
blister pack, hanging on a hook in the store. ............... and you
buying two of them.
On a serious note, They have not touched my WH but
they have torn out 80% of my water cress. I thought they were just mad
at me but the water cress does taste pretty good. That could be the
target. They think it's a salad bar with frog legs, escargot and sushi
side dishes.

"bobkiely" > wrote in message
news:CJVOa.28$lW1.5@fed1read07...
> Hank: 3 straight nights now since I marked my territory with CP and
no
> visits from the Raccoons. (Fingers crossed/knock on wood) I even
took down
> my soft drink can pyramid (well today is trash day too).
> BK
> "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > Number two in trap!!!!!! The rest of the family trashed the pond,
They
> > even ate all the flowers and buds from all the lilies. I think I
need
> > more traps. All of the older fish seem ok. (We have not had
bonding
> > sessions with the smaller GF yet.) It seemed as if all were
present
> > for their orange slice this morning.
> > I think the family is getting angry. They overturned
several
> > potted plants in yard and finished their raid with a refreshing
dip in
> > the swimming pool.
> > Well, time to take #2 to be with his sibling.
> > At $16. that coyote **** is starting to sound like a
bargain.
> >
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
> > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Well one raccoon relocated. Found him a nice spot by a lake. He
was
> > > kind-of small, and cute as he stuck his human-like little paw
out of
> > > the cage as if to say, "Come closer so I can RIP YOUR LIPS OFF"!
> > > ...... I reset the trap ..... I have a strong feeling Mama and
> > family
> > > are nearby waiting to have another swim and buffet in Hank's
Puddle.
> > > ........ Let us know how the "Midnight under a coyote" cologne
> > works.
> > > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > For $16 you should have gotten the whole coyote! It is
supposed to
> > > > work if there are coyotes in your area. The coon may just
think it
> > > is
> > > > cheap cologne if it does not recognize it as a predator. I
looked
> > > out
> > > > this morning to one furry bandit in a Hav-a-heart. I think
I'll
> > take
> > > > the little guy to the park today. Good luck with yours. I
> > hope
> > > I
> > > > only have one.
> > > > "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> > > > news:nQrOa.99793$%42.80004@fed1read06...
> > > > > I know some of you will think I'm just kidding due to my
recent
> > > > run-ins with
> > > > > the raccoon but this is serious - no kidding.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yesterday I was at Petco and was talking to the guy in the
fish
> > > > department
> > > > > and I mentioned I had a pond. He tells me that he used to
but
> > gave
> > > > it up due
> > > > > to being constantly trashed by the raccoons. So I mentioned
to
> > him
> > > > that I
> > > > > had 4 visits from coons in the last week and I was thinking
of
> > > > trading in
> > > > > the goldfish and koi for 200 4" piranhas to remedy the
problem.
> > > (OK
> > > > I can't
> > > > > help it - just kidding about that part).
> > > > >
> > > > > So he tells me I should get some coyote urine...that if it
was
> > > > available
> > > > > when he had the problem, he's probably still have his pond.
For
> > a
> > > > second I
> > > > > thought HE was kidding and I said, "You said coyote urine?"
He
> > > said
> > > > that
> > > > > they sell it across the street at Green Thumb Nursery. So I
went
> > > > over there
> > > > > and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers. Last
> > night
> > > > was the
> > > > > first time I used it and didn't have a visit - coincidence?
I
> > > don't
> > > > know but
> > > > > I had to try it even if it was $16.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anybody else hear of it? And it IS actual 100% pure coyote
> > urine,
> > > > not some
> > > > > chemical (according to them). I'll take their word for it.
> > > > >
> > > > > They have a web site: http://www.legupenterprises.com
> > > > >
> > > > > BK
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[bobkiely]

*LOL* You sir are just a little TOO MUCH! *LOL* The dispensers are little
bottles about the size and shape of shampoo bottles you get in a hotel with
3/8" circles cut out on all 4 sides, a cotton ball inside and a small cable
tie used to hang it from whatever you choose. Now maybe you can purge that
other image from your mind. :-)

This however, is all moot as (the following in 48pt, bold, underlined, color
bright red)....THE COYOTE URINE DOES NOT, repeat DOES NOT WORK! The next
report I give on the coyote urine is whether I was able to retrieve my
$16.78 from the place I bought it!

Fortunately I saw him within 20-30 seconds of his arrival. When I jumped up
he saw me through the window and ran back out through the gate. Once there
he made a 180 and looked back in through the gate. His nose was 2 " away
from the CP dispenser for for at least 10 seconds. No reaction at all -
nada - nothing. Then not seeing me he decided to come back in and I was
waiting for him and without going into detail, I discouraged him again and
he left and didn't come back.

BK

"Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
...
> BK, I'm sorry but something you said keeps sticking in my mind ....."
> So I went
> > > > over there
> > > > > and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers."
> Somehow I keep picturing the original dispenser the coyote used, in a
> blister pack, hanging on a hook in the store. ............... and you
> buying two of them.
> On a serious note, They have not touched my WH but
> they have torn out 80% of my water cress. I thought they were just mad
> at me but the water cress does taste pretty good. That could be the
> target. They think it's a salad bar with frog legs, escargot and sushi
> side dishes.
>
> "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> news:CJVOa.28$lW1.5@fed1read07...
> > Hank: 3 straight nights now since I marked my territory with CP and
> no
> > visits from the Raccoons. (Fingers crossed/knock on wood) I even
> took down
> > my soft drink can pyramid (well today is trash day too).
> > BK
> > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > > Number two in trap!!!!!! The rest of the family trashed the pond,
> They
> > > even ate all the flowers and buds from all the lilies. I think I
> need
> > > more traps. All of the older fish seem ok. (We have not had
> bonding
> > > sessions with the smaller GF yet.) It seemed as if all were
> present
> > > for their orange slice this morning.
> > > I think the family is getting angry. They overturned
> several
> > > potted plants in yard and finished their raid with a refreshing
> dip in
> > > the swimming pool.
> > > Well, time to take #2 to be with his sibling.
> > > At $16. that coyote **** is starting to sound like a
> bargain.
> > >
> > > http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
> > > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Well one raccoon relocated. Found him a nice spot by a lake. He
> was
> > > > kind-of small, and cute as he stuck his human-like little paw
> out of
> > > > the cage as if to say, "Come closer so I can RIP YOUR LIPS OFF"!
> > > > ...... I reset the trap ..... I have a strong feeling Mama and
> > > family
> > > > are nearby waiting to have another swim and buffet in Hank's
> Puddle.
> > > > ........ Let us know how the "Midnight under a coyote" cologne
> > > works.
> > > > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > For $16 you should have gotten the whole coyote! It is
> supposed to
> > > > > work if there are coyotes in your area. The coon may just
> think it
> > > > is
> > > > > cheap cologne if it does not recognize it as a predator. I
> looked
> > > > out
> > > > > this morning to one furry bandit in a Hav-a-heart. I think
> I'll
> > > take
> > > > > the little guy to the park today. Good luck with yours. I
> > > hope
> > > > I
> > > > > only have one.
> > > > > "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> > > > > news:nQrOa.99793$%42.80004@fed1read06...
> > > > > > I know some of you will think I'm just kidding due to my
> recent
> > > > > run-ins with
> > > > > > the raccoon but this is serious - no kidding.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yesterday I was at Petco and was talking to the guy in the
> fish
> > > > > department
> > > > > > and I mentioned I had a pond. He tells me that he used to
> but
> > > gave
> > > > > it up due
> > > > > > to being constantly trashed by the raccoons. So I mentioned
> to
> > > him
> > > > > that I
> > > > > > had 4 visits from coons in the last week and I was thinking
> of
> > > > > trading in
> > > > > > the goldfish and koi for 200 4" piranhas to remedy the
> problem.
> > > > (OK
> > > > > I can't
> > > > > > help it - just kidding about that part).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So he tells me I should get some coyote urine...that if it
> was
> > > > > available
> > > > > > when he had the problem, he's probably still have his pond.
> For
> > > a
> > > > > second I
> > > > > > thought HE was kidding and I said, "You said coyote urine?"
> He
> > > > said
> > > > > that
> > > > > > they sell it across the street at Green Thumb Nursery. So I
> went
> > > > > over there
> > > > > > and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers. Last
> > > night
> > > > > was the
> > > > > > first time I used it and didn't have a visit - coincidence?
> I
> > > > don't
> > > > > know but
> > > > > > I had to try it even if it was $16.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anybody else hear of it? And it IS actual 100% pure coyote
> > > urine,
> > > > > not some
> > > > > > chemical (according to them). I'll take their word for it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They have a web site: http://www.legupenterprises.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BK
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[joe]

Hank Pagel wrote:

> #3 is filling the trap (This is one big mother and I mean that
> literally)The only damage this morning is some of the watercress that
> is left is uprooted.We are going to see how fast an old, bald-headed
> fat guy can run when he opens the trap to let this one out. Better
> wear my Nike's.

Is there some way you could film this for us?

Joe



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[Richard Schaal]

You can't negotiate with terrorists - the same goes for gophers, moles, racoons, rabbits,
ground squirrels, giant antler'd rats..

Once they're in the trap, shoot them! It is hard to miss 'em, but if you do, you can try... try
again. :-)



In article >,
"Hank Pagel" > writes:
>#3 is filling the trap (This is one big mother and I mean that
>literally)The only damage this morning is some of the watercress that
>is left is uprooted.We are going to see how fast an old, bald-headed
>fat guy can run when he opens the trap to let this one out. Better
>wear my Nike's.
>
>

[bobkiely]

What am I going to do now? Well I am not going to remove all my water
hyacinths for sure. One of them is blooming. Actually I have to take the 5th
on what my next step will be. All I can say that I believe in fate and luck.
It was the raccoon's fate that he found my pond and also his bad luck that
he has to deal with my defending it. If you think of them as a very large
disease carrying rodent who wants to decimate all the work and money you've
put into your pond as well as killing your pets, then escalating the force
with which you defend it seems rational. And during that escalation if the
size of the projectile has to increase slightly and the propellant changes
from air to something that creates a larger echo across the lake, then so be
it.

After all, if he would just walk another 200 yards he would be at that
24-acre lake full of largemouth bass, bluegill, catfish and carp. He comes
to my pond because it's a lot smaller and easier to fish in. Well, easier is
not always better as there is a much bigger hazard to fishing in my pond.
BK

"infoseeker" <reply by post thx> wrote in message
...
> OH NO!!!
> What are you going to try next? Maybe I should return my urine (ha ha)
now
> without using it. Those raccoons make water gardens hard to do (with
fish).
>
> and, yes, I'm also at war with moles. And the moles are mocking me. They
> sit in the burrows and laugh- I'm sure of it. I stick mole bombs (sulfur)
> down the holes, and the next morning, the wrappers are unceremoniously
> tossed onto the grass right outside the hole! I feel for sure that they
are
> just giggling their way through my lawn. And yes, I tried Castor oil a
few
> years ago- man that stuff is hard to spray. The result? The best looking
> moles you ever saw! Hey, maybe this is a side business waiting to happen-
> if I could catch the critters! (And yes, tried traps, but it didn't kill
> the guy- and that was traumatic- for us. We actually freed the guy in a
> near by wild wild park- not pretty lawns). Perhaps the moles and raccoons
> are haivng laughing parties at my expense!
>
>
> "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> news:ikgPa.554$zy.246@fed1read06...
> > *LOL* You sir are just a little TOO MUCH! *LOL* The dispensers are
little
> > bottles about the size and shape of shampoo bottles you get in a hotel
> with
> > 3/8" circles cut out on all 4 sides, a cotton ball inside and a small
> cable
> > tie used to hang it from whatever you choose. Now maybe you can purge
that
> > other image from your mind. :-)
> >
> > This however, is all moot as (the following in 48pt, bold, underlined,
> color
> > bright red)....THE COYOTE URINE DOES NOT, repeat DOES NOT WORK! The next
> > report I give on the coyote urine is whether I was able to retrieve my
> > $16.78 from the place I bought it!
> >
> > Fortunately I saw him within 20-30 seconds of his arrival. When I jumped
> up
> > he saw me through the window and ran back out through the gate. Once
there
> > he made a 180 and looked back in through the gate. His nose was 2 " away
> > from the CP dispenser for for at least 10 seconds. No reaction at all -
> > nada - nothing. Then not seeing me he decided to come back in and I was
> > waiting for him and without going into detail, I discouraged him again
and
> > he left and didn't come back.
> >
> > BK
> >
> > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > BK, I'm sorry but something you said keeps sticking in my mind ....."
> > > So I went
> > > > > > over there
> > > > > > > and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers."
> > > Somehow I keep picturing the original dispenser the coyote used, in a
> > > blister pack, hanging on a hook in the store. ............... and you
> > > buying two of them.
> > > On a serious note, They have not touched my WH but
> > > they have torn out 80% of my water cress. I thought they were just mad
> > > at me but the water cress does taste pretty good. That could be the
> > > target. They think it's a salad bar with frog legs, escargot and sushi
> > > side dishes.
> > >
> > > "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> > > news:CJVOa.28$lW1.5@fed1read07...
> > > > Hank: 3 straight nights now since I marked my territory with CP and
> > > no
> > > > visits from the Raccoons. (Fingers crossed/knock on wood) I even
> > > took down
> > > > my soft drink can pyramid (well today is trash day too).
> > > > BK

[Hank Pagel]

BK, Sorry to hear that your urine doesn't work. I kind of thought that
the dispenser would still have to be attached to the coyote for it to
work. Thanks for the description, I will sleep better.


"bobkiely" > wrote in message
news:ikgPa.554$zy.246@fed1read06...
> *LOL* You sir are just a little TOO MUCH! *LOL* The dispensers are
little
> bottles about the size and shape of shampoo bottles you get in a
hotel with
> 3/8" circles cut out on all 4 sides, a cotton ball inside and a
small cable
> tie used to hang it from whatever you choose. Now maybe you can
purge that
> other image from your mind. :-)
>
> This however, is all moot as (the following in 48pt, bold,
underlined, color
> bright red)....THE COYOTE URINE DOES NOT, repeat DOES NOT WORK! The
next
> report I give on the coyote urine is whether I was able to retrieve
my
> $16.78 from the place I bought it!
>
> Fortunately I saw him within 20-30 seconds of his arrival. When I
jumped up
> he saw me through the window and ran back out through the gate. Once
there
> he made a 180 and looked back in through the gate. His nose was 2 "
away
> from the CP dispenser for for at least 10 seconds. No reaction at
all -
> nada - nothing. Then not seeing me he decided to come back in and I
was
> waiting for him and without going into detail, I discouraged him
again and
> he left and didn't come back.
>
> BK
>
> "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > BK, I'm sorry but something you said keeps sticking in my mind
......"
> > So I went
> > > > > over there
> > > > > > and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers."
> > Somehow I keep picturing the original dispenser the coyote used,
in a
> > blister pack, hanging on a hook in the store. ............... and
you
> > buying two of them.
> > On a serious note, They have not touched my WH
but
> > they have torn out 80% of my water cress. I thought they were just
mad
> > at me but the water cress does taste pretty good. That could be
the
> > target. They think it's a salad bar with frog legs, escargot and
sushi
> > side dishes.
> >
> > "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> > news:CJVOa.28$lW1.5@fed1read07...
> > > Hank: 3 straight nights now since I marked my territory with CP
and
> > no
> > > visits from the Raccoons. (Fingers crossed/knock on wood) I even
> > took down
> > > my soft drink can pyramid (well today is trash day too).
> > > BK
> > > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > > .. .
> > > > Number two in trap!!!!!! The rest of the family trashed the
pond,
> > They
> > > > even ate all the flowers and buds from all the lilies. I think
I
> > need
> > > > more traps. All of the older fish seem ok. (We have not had
> > bonding
> > > > sessions with the smaller GF yet.) It seemed as if all were
> > present
> > > > for their orange slice this morning.
> > > > I think the family is getting angry. They overturned
> > several
> > > > potted plants in yard and finished their raid with a
refreshing
> > dip in
> > > > the swimming pool.
> > > > Well, time to take #2 to be with his sibling.
> > > > At $16. that coyote **** is starting to sound like a
> > bargain.
> > > >
> > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
> > > > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Well one raccoon relocated. Found him a nice spot by a lake.
He
> > was
> > > > > kind-of small, and cute as he stuck his human-like little
paw
> > out of
> > > > > the cage as if to say, "Come closer so I can RIP YOUR LIPS
OFF"!
> > > > > ...... I reset the trap ..... I have a strong feeling Mama
and
> > > > family
> > > > > are nearby waiting to have another swim and buffet in Hank's
> > Puddle.
> > > > > ........ Let us know how the "Midnight under a coyote"
cologne
> > > > works.
> > > > > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > For $16 you should have gotten the whole coyote! It is
> > supposed to
> > > > > > work if there are coyotes in your area. The coon may just
> > think it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > cheap cologne if it does not recognize it as a predator. I
> > looked
> > > > > out
> > > > > > this morning to one furry bandit in a Hav-a-heart. I think
> > I'll
> > > > take
> > > > > > the little guy to the park today. Good luck with
yours. I
> > > > hope
> > > > > I
> > > > > > only have one.
> > > > > > "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> > > > > > news:nQrOa.99793$%42.80004@fed1read06...
> > > > > > > I know some of you will think I'm just kidding due to my
> > recent
> > > > > > run-ins with
> > > > > > > the raccoon but this is serious - no kidding.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yesterday I was at Petco and was talking to the guy in
the
> > fish
> > > > > > department
> > > > > > > and I mentioned I had a pond. He tells me that he used
to
> > but
> > > > gave
> > > > > > it up due
> > > > > > > to being constantly trashed by the raccoons. So I
mentioned
> > to
> > > > him
> > > > > > that I
> > > > > > > had 4 visits from coons in the last week and I was
thinking
> > of
> > > > > > trading in
> > > > > > > the goldfish and koi for 200 4" piranhas to remedy the
> > problem.
> > > > > (OK
> > > > > > I can't
> > > > > > > help it - just kidding about that part).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So he tells me I should get some coyote urine...that if
it
> > was
> > > > > > available
> > > > > > > when he had the problem, he's probably still have his
pond.
> > For
> > > > a
> > > > > > second I
> > > > > > > thought HE was kidding and I said, "You said coyote
urine?"
> > He
> > > > > said
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > they sell it across the street at Green Thumb Nursery.
So I
> > went
> > > > > > over there
> > > > > > > and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers.
Last
> > > > night
> > > > > > was the
> > > > > > > first time I used it and didn't have a visit -
coincidence?
> > I
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > know but
> > > > > > > I had to try it even if it was $16.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anybody else hear of it? And it IS actual 100% pure
coyote
> > > > urine,
> > > > > > not some
> > > > > > > chemical (according to them). I'll take their word for
it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They have a web site: http://www.legupenterprises.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Hank Pagel]

In the past I have used cat food with some success. Someone told me to
use peanut butter on bread and so far they are 3 for 3.
"Bill Spohn" > wrote in message
...
> >#3 is filling the trap (This is one big mother and I mean that
> >literally)The only damage this morning is some of the watercress
that
> >is left is uprooted.
>
> What are you using as bait?

[Hank Pagel]

I have a feeling the film style and audio would resemble "The Blair
Witch" and Nike would probably pay me to destroy it.

"joe" > wrote in message
...
> Hank Pagel wrote:
>
> > #3 is filling the trap (This is one big mother and I mean that
> > literally)The only damage this morning is some of the watercress
that
> > is left is uprooted.We are going to see how fast an old,
bald-headed
> > fat guy can run when he opens the trap to let this one out. Better
> > wear my Nike's.
>
> Is there some way you could film this for us?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
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[K30a]

Supposedly they like marshmellows.
You have to tie them in as a raccoon once picked
up the trap and shook the marshmellows out.
The advantage is that your neighbor's cat usually isn't very fond of
marshmellows.


k30a

[bobkiely]

BV....I know....somebody initially suggested I just call animal control and
have them deal with it. Well what fun is that?? I'm a writer and I need the
material! This banter back and forth between all the contributors could be
the basis of a TV sitcom or at least a very funny short story. I just cut
and pasted some of the best posts on this thread and sent it to all my
friends who rely on me to provide them with some weekly humor. I see most of
them on Friday nights and if for some reason I didn't send anything that
week, some actually complain like their paying for a subscription or
something. :-)
BK

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> news:6DhPa.581$zy.223@fed1read06...
> > Hank, FYI, I took this off the Haveahart.com website:
> > "Raccoons are known carriers of several diseases that are transmittable
to
> > humans and pets. Diseases such as rabies, tuberculosis, canine and
feline
> > distemper, and parasites such as roundworm. Roundworm is contracted by
> > humans accidentally ingesting or inhaling eggs that are passed through
the
> > raccoon feces. Children are at risk because while playing could get it
on
> > their hands and then, as children will do, put their hands in their
> mouths.
> > Remind children not to go near them. Be a responsible pet owner and keep
> > your pets away from raccoons."
> <snip>
>
> I am laughing silly over here, at you guys not being able to get rid of
> these coons. This IS EASY!!! Come on! I suggest you rent CaddyShack, get a
> pencil and some paper and take notes.
>
> BV.
>
>

[BenignVanilla]

"bobkiely" > wrote in message
news:6DhPa.581$zy.223@fed1read06...
> Hank, FYI, I took this off the Haveahart.com website:
> "Raccoons are known carriers of several diseases that are transmittable to
> humans and pets. Diseases such as rabies, tuberculosis, canine and feline
> distemper, and parasites such as roundworm. Roundworm is contracted by
> humans accidentally ingesting or inhaling eggs that are passed through the
> raccoon feces. Children are at risk because while playing could get it on
> their hands and then, as children will do, put their hands in their
mouths.
> Remind children not to go near them. Be a responsible pet owner and keep
> your pets away from raccoons."
<snip>

I am laughing silly over here, at you guys not being able to get rid of
these coons. This IS EASY!!! Come on! I suggest you rent CaddyShack, get a
pencil and some paper and take notes.

BV.

[jammer]

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:58:56 -0700, "bobkiely" >
wrote:

>What am I going to do now?

You dont want to trap and release elsewhere?

[BenignVanilla]

"bobkiely" > wrote in message
news:OwiPa.586$zy.536@fed1read06...
> What am I going to do now? Well I am not going to remove all my water
> hyacinths for sure. One of them is blooming. Actually I have to take the
5th
> on what my next step will be. All I can say that I believe in fate and
luck.
> It was the raccoon's fate that he found my pond and also his bad luck that
> he has to deal with my defending it. If you think of them as a very large
> disease carrying rodent who wants to decimate all the work and money
you've
> put into your pond as well as killing your pets, then escalating the force
> with which you defend it seems rational. And during that escalation if the
> size of the projectile has to increase slightly and the propellant changes
> from air to something that creates a larger echo across the lake, then so
be
> it.
<snip>

Do you know someone with a mid to large sized dog? I wonder if you could
borrow it for a week or so? I would think a snarling, barking dog would do
the trick.

BV.

[Hank Pagel]

I know you are trying to convince yourself, because I see them as
highly intelligent mammals that just happen to be lower on the food
chain than us. (No not a tree-hugger, just respect) I also would leave
the fifth alone, booze and firearms don't mix. For me extermination
would be the last resort.
On the other hand we will see what tomorrow brings now that mama
is relocated. I had to dump her out of the cage and she ran like hell.
WHEW!!!! Me man! Vicious animals run from me! So much for the macho
crap, glad she ran, I think she was faster than me anyway.

"bobkiely" > wrote in message
news:OwiPa.586$zy.536@fed1read06...
> What am I going to do now? Well I am not going to remove all my
water
> hyacinths for sure. One of them is blooming. Actually I have to take
the 5th
> on what my next step will be. All I can say that I believe in fate
and luck.
> It was the raccoon's fate that he found my pond and also his bad
luck that
> he has to deal with my defending it. If you think of them as a very
large
> disease carrying rodent who wants to decimate all the work and money
you've
> put into your pond as well as killing your pets, then escalating the
force
> with which you defend it seems rational. And during that escalation
if the
> size of the projectile has to increase slightly and the propellant
changes
> from air to something that creates a larger echo across the lake,
then so be
> it.
>
> After all, if he would just walk another 200 yards he would be at
that
> 24-acre lake full of largemouth bass, bluegill, catfish and carp. He
comes
> to my pond because it's a lot smaller and easier to fish in. Well,
easier is
> not always better as there is a much bigger hazard to fishing in my
pond.
> BK
>
> "infoseeker" <reply by post thx> wrote in message
> ...
> > OH NO!!!
> > What are you going to try next? Maybe I should return my urine
(ha ha)
> now
> > without using it. Those raccoons make water gardens hard to do
(with
> fish).
> >
> > and, yes, I'm also at war with moles. And the moles are mocking
me. They
> > sit in the burrows and laugh- I'm sure of it. I stick mole bombs
(sulfur)
> > down the holes, and the next morning, the wrappers are
unceremoniously
> > tossed onto the grass right outside the hole! I feel for sure
that they
> are
> > just giggling their way through my lawn. And yes, I tried Castor
oil a
> few
> > years ago- man that stuff is hard to spray. The result? The best
looking
> > moles you ever saw! Hey, maybe this is a side business waiting to
happen-
> > if I could catch the critters! (And yes, tried traps, but it
didn't kill
> > the guy- and that was traumatic- for us. We actually freed the
guy in a
> > near by wild wild park- not pretty lawns). Perhaps the moles and
raccoons
> > are haivng laughing parties at my expense!
> >
> >
> > "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> > news:ikgPa.554$zy.246@fed1read06...
> > > *LOL* You sir are just a little TOO MUCH! *LOL* The dispensers
are
> little
> > > bottles about the size and shape of shampoo bottles you get in a
hotel
> > with
> > > 3/8" circles cut out on all 4 sides, a cotton ball inside and a
small
> > cable
> > > tie used to hang it from whatever you choose. Now maybe you can
purge
> that
> > > other image from your mind. :-)
> > >
> > > This however, is all moot as (the following in 48pt, bold,
underlined,
> > color
> > > bright red)....THE COYOTE URINE DOES NOT, repeat DOES NOT WORK!
The next
> > > report I give on the coyote urine is whether I was able to
retrieve my
> > > $16.78 from the place I bought it!
> > >
> > > Fortunately I saw him within 20-30 seconds of his arrival. When
I jumped
> > up
> > > he saw me through the window and ran back out through the gate.
Once
> there
> > > he made a 180 and looked back in through the gate. His nose was
2 " away
> > > from the CP dispenser for for at least 10 seconds. No reaction
at all -
> > > nada - nothing. Then not seeing me he decided to come back in
and I was
> > > waiting for him and without going into detail, I discouraged him
again
> and
> > > he left and didn't come back.
> > >
> > > BK
> > >
> > > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > BK, I'm sorry but something you said keeps sticking in my
mind ....."
> > > > So I went
> > > > > > > over there
> > > > > > > > and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of
dispensers."
> > > > Somehow I keep picturing the original dispenser the coyote
used, in a
> > > > blister pack, hanging on a hook in the store. ...............
and you
> > > > buying two of them.
> > > > On a serious note, They have not touched my
WH but
> > > > they have torn out 80% of my water cress. I thought they were
just mad
> > > > at me but the water cress does taste pretty good. That could
be the
> > > > target. They think it's a salad bar with frog legs, escargot
and sushi
> > > > side dishes.
> > > >
> > > > "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> > > > news:CJVOa.28$lW1.5@fed1read07...
> > > > > Hank: 3 straight nights now since I marked my territory with
CP and
> > > > no
> > > > > visits from the Raccoons. (Fingers crossed/knock on wood) I
even
> > > > took down
> > > > > my soft drink can pyramid (well today is trash day too).
> > > > > BK
>
>
>

[Hank Pagel]

Got the movie.
Took notes.
How will floating a candy bar in the pool get rid of raccoons????
Seriously, even talking about using those kind of nitrates on the web
could get you in trouble these days.

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> news:6DhPa.581$zy.223@fed1read06...
> > Hank, FYI, I took this off the Haveahart.com website:
> > "Raccoons are known carriers of several diseases that are
transmittable to
> > humans and pets. Diseases such as rabies, tuberculosis, canine and
feline
> > distemper, and parasites such as roundworm. Roundworm is
contracted by
> > humans accidentally ingesting or inhaling eggs that are passed
through the
> > raccoon feces. Children are at risk because while playing could
get it on
> > their hands and then, as children will do, put their hands in
their
> mouths.
> > Remind children not to go near them. Be a responsible pet owner
and keep
> > your pets away from raccoons."
> <snip>
>
> I am laughing silly over here, at you guys not being able to get rid
of
> these coons. This IS EASY!!! Come on! I suggest you rent CaddyShack,
get a
> pencil and some paper and take notes.
>
> BV.
>
>

[Perk]

Hi all,

How about making up a diluted solution of tobasco (hot) sauce and sugar (to help
it stick) and spraying it on your water hyacinths.

Might make the rascals decide to change their diet. Not sure if it would
injure the plants though.

Perk

[jammer]

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:15:27 -0700, Perk > wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>How about making up a diluted solution of tobasco (hot) sauce and sugar (to help
>it stick) and spraying it on your water hyacinths.
>
>Might make the rascals decide to change their diet. Not sure if it would
>injure the plants though.
>
>Perk

Or spray them with the coyote urine.

[BenignVanilla]

"Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
.. .
> Got the movie.
> Took notes.
> How will floating a candy bar in the pool get rid of raccoons????
> Seriously, even talking about using those kind of nitrates on the web
> could get you in trouble these days.
<snip>

"Hey Mr. Gopher, it's just me Mr. Rabbit...not some plastic 'splosives r
nuttin'"

BV.

[Hank Pagel]

You don't remember the candy bar, do you?
I took a lot of ribbing because of it's name.

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > Got the movie.
> > Took notes.
> > How will floating a candy bar in the pool get rid of raccoons????
> > Seriously, even talking about using those kind of nitrates on the
web
> > could get you in trouble these days.
> <snip>
>
> "Hey Mr. Gopher, it's just me Mr. Rabbit...not some plastic
'splosives r
> nuttin'"
>
> BV.
>
>

[BenignVanilla]

"Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
...
> You don't remember the candy bar, do you?
> I took a lot of ribbing because of it's name.
<snip>

As funny as it was...I am trying to forget it.

BV.

[John Rutz]

BenignVanilla wrote:
> "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>You don't remember the candy bar, do you?
>>I took a lot of ribbing because of it's name.
>
> <snip>
>
> As funny as it was...I am trying to forget it.
>
> BV.
>
>
OK u;nkle i give what name kandy bar i didnt see cady shack i guess
or i fergit

--





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

[John Rutz]

Hank Pagel wrote:
> "OH! HENRY" People got upset when he pulled it out of the pool and
> ate it.
> Why must I be so graphic?
>
> i remember when i was a kid they used to make those and the joke that went with emm


John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

[bobkiely]

IFSKR: Hey....I might have rushed to judgement about the coyote urine when I
said it doesn't work....I'm now undecided. I didn't take it back like I
said I was going to and it has been there for 8 days and he only came back
the one time.

I'm going to let it ride a little longer before I make up my mind. As you
may have seen me write...we DO have coyotes here.
BK

[Hank Pagel]

After all this talk about urine, the three raccoons that I relocated
all left their sweet little scent in the back of my p/u truck. My wife
says it is a statement as to my driving. Raccoon urine repels humans
............. I don't need my alarm system anymore.
No damage in 3 nights. Hope that's all of them.

"bobkiely" > wrote in message
news:1ZDQa.15677$zy.2790@fed1read06...
> IFSKR: Hey....I might have rushed to judgement about the coyote
urine when I
> said it doesn't work....I'm now undecided. I didn't take it back
like I
> said I was going to and it has been there for 8 days and he only
came back
> the one time.
>
> I'm going to let it ride a little longer before I make up my mind.
As you
> may have seen me write...we DO have coyotes here.
> BK
>
>
>

[RichToyBox]

Question? Damage to truck, or damage by masked bandits in ponds?
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
...
> After all this talk about urine, the three raccoons that I relocated
> all left their sweet little scent in the back of my p/u truck. My wife
> says it is a statement as to my driving. Raccoon urine repels humans
> ............ I don't need my alarm system anymore.
> No damage in 3 nights. Hope that's all of them.
>
> "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> news:1ZDQa.15677$zy.2790@fed1read06...
> > IFSKR: Hey....I might have rushed to judgement about the coyote
> urine when I
> > said it doesn't work....I'm now undecided. I didn't take it back
> like I
> > said I was going to and it has been there for 8 days and he only
> came back
> > the one time.
> >
> > I'm going to let it ride a little longer before I make up my mind.
> As you
> > may have seen me write...we DO have coyotes here.
> > BK
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[160meters]

I have had a pond for quite a few years, and every night the racoons come up
from the river, about 60 feet away, and not once have they bothered my fish.
The walls are vertical, pond is over 3 feet deep, they will *not* go into
the water if they can't touch bottom. We probably have a hundred racoons in
the half mile radius, the Trask River is about 10 - 30 feet deep now, and
never has there been a problem

http://www.oregoncoast.com/blondie/digging2.htm click on the racoon pix
at top. I never ever feed these wild animals, by the way.

They were here first, I am the encroacher, don't mess with Mother Nature...
She'll getcha!

Sue





"bobkiely" > wrote in message
news:1ZDQa.15677$zy.2790@fed1read06...
> IFSKR: Hey....I might have rushed to judgement about the coyote urine when
I
> said it doesn't work....I'm now undecided. I didn't take it back like I
> said I was going to and it has been there for 8 days and he only came back
> the one time.
>
> I'm going to let it ride a little longer before I make up my mind. As you
> may have seen me write...we DO have coyotes here.
> BK
>
>
>

[jammer]

Those are so so cute. I know some ponders are having heck with them,
but if i could just see some ever! Thanks for the pix.

>I have had a pond for quite a few years, and every night the racoons come up
>from the river, about 60 feet away, and not once have they bothered my fish.
>The walls are vertical, pond is over 3 feet deep, they will *not* go into
>the water if they can't touch bottom. We probably have a hundred racoons in
>the half mile radius, the Trask River is about 10 - 30 feet deep now, and
>never has there been a problem
>
>http://www.oregoncoast.com/blondie/digging2.htm click on the racoon pix
>at top. I never ever feed these wild animals, by the way.
>
>They were here first, I am the encroacher, don't mess with Mother Nature...
>She'll getcha!
>
>Sue
>
>
>
>
>
>"bobkiely" > wrote in message
>news:1ZDQa.15677$zy.2790@fed1read06...
>> IFSKR: Hey....I might have rushed to judgement about the coyote urine when
>I
>> said it doesn't work....I'm now undecided. I didn't take it back like I
>> said I was going to and it has been there for 8 days and he only came back
>> the one time.
>>
>> I'm going to let it ride a little longer before I make up my mind. As you
>> may have seen me write...we DO have coyotes here.
>> BK
>>
>>
>>
>

[Theo van Daele]

Great pictures Sue. They do look kinda cute indeed :-) Personally I
have only Maine coons around the pond, but at least the tails are very
similar ;-)

Vertical walls is good advice I think. Also makes life a bit more
difficult for herons.

Theo

[BenignVanilla]

"160meters" > wrote in message
...
> I have had a pond for quite a few years, and every night the racoons come
up
> from the river, about 60 feet away, and not once have they bothered my
fish.
> The walls are vertical, pond is over 3 feet deep, they will *not* go into
> the water if they can't touch bottom. We probably have a hundred racoons
in
> the half mile radius, the Trask River is about 10 - 30 feet deep now, and
> never has there been a problem
>
> http://www.oregoncoast.com/blondie/digging2.htm click on the racoon pix
> at top. I never ever feed these wild animals, by the way.
>
> They were here first, I am the encroacher, don't mess with Mother
Nature...
> She'll getcha!

Sure...I agree. Animals on our land is a people problem, not an animal
problem. Of course I have not had a critter destroy my pond yet, so I'll
retract my opinion for now. *laugh*

Your pond is fantastic. Very natural. Those raccoon statues look so real.

BV.

[Hank Pagel]

I don't think the east coast raccoons here in New Jersey subscribe to
the same magazines as the west coast bandits. After their raids the
like to take a dip in the swimming pool. All evidence (foot prints,
sand on bottom of pool and wet concrete) points to them entering and
exiting from the deep end and not at the ladder. Anyway I have
relocated three this year and five last year and will probably
continue to do it in the future. They have never harmed my fish just
snails, frogs and VF plants torn apart.
Great photos and beautiful pond and web page.

"160meters" > wrote in message
...
> I have had a pond for quite a few years, and every night the racoons
come up
> from the river, about 60 feet away, and not once have they bothered
my fish.
> The walls are vertical, pond is over 3 feet deep, they will *not* go
into
> the water if they can't touch bottom. We probably have a hundred
racoons in
> the half mile radius, the Trask River is about 10 - 30 feet deep
now, and
> never has there been a problem
>
> http://www.oregoncoast.com/blondie/digging2.htm click on the
racoon pix
> at top. I never ever feed these wild animals, by the way.
>
> They were here first, I am the encroacher, don't mess with Mother
Nature...
> She'll getcha!
>
> Sue
>
>
>
>
>
> "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> news:1ZDQa.15677$zy.2790@fed1read06...
> > IFSKR: Hey....I might have rushed to judgement about the coyote
urine when
> I
> > said it doesn't work....I'm now undecided. I didn't take it back
like I
> > said I was going to and it has been there for 8 days and he only
came back
> > the one time.
> >
> > I'm going to let it ride a little longer before I make up my mind.
As you
> > may have seen me write...we DO have coyotes here.
> > BK
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Wendy Kelly Budd]

Thank you for the update. I know I'll be facing this in the future.
--
Wendy* in N. California, off to find a coyote...
"You might not always get what you want, but you always get what you
expect." Charles Spurgeon


"bobkiely" > wrote in message
news:kNBRa.21051$zy.13277@fed1read06...
> Just an update on my raccoon problem...
>
> Its been 10 days since I bought and used the coyote urine to repel the
coons
> and I have only had the one visit since. You may remember that they were
> coming every other night before that. Last night was one straight week
> without any problems. So far - so good.
>
> BK
>
>

[Hank Pagel]

"Wendy Kelly Budd" > wrote in message
...
> Thank you for the update. I know I'll be facing this in the future.
> --
> Wendy* in N. California, off to find a coyote...
> "You might not always get what you want, but you always get what you
> expect." Charles Spurgeon
>
>
> "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> news:kNBRa.21051$zy.13277@fed1read06...
> > Just an update on my raccoon problem...
> >
> > Its been 10 days since I bought and used the coyote urine to repel
the
> coons
> > and I have only had the one visit since. You may remember that
they were
> > coming every other night before that. Last night was one straight
week
> > without any problems. So far - so good.
> >
> > BK
> >
> >
>
>

[bobkiely \(Remove NOSPAM\)]

Well, just for a tidbit of information....The last time I saw a raccoon or
any signs of one was well over a month ago and the coyote urine is still in
place and I haven't refreshed it or added to it....I guess it was worth the
money after all.
BK
"bobkiely" > wrote in message
news:xRGQa.15719$zy.10035@fed1read06...
> That thought crossed my mind when someone, I think it was jammer,
suggested
> I relocate them like you did - I don't have a pick-up truck and I sure
> wasn't going to put them in my car - even the trunk.
> BK
> "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > After all this talk about urine, the three raccoons that I relocated
> > all left their sweet little scent in the back of my p/u truck. My wife
> > says it is a statement as to my driving. Raccoon urine repels humans
> > ............ I don't need my alarm system anymore.
> > No damage in 3 nights. Hope that's all of them.
> >
> > "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> > news:1ZDQa.15677$zy.2790@fed1read06...
> > > IFSKR: Hey....I might have rushed to judgement about the coyote
> > urine when I
> > > said it doesn't work....I'm now undecided. I didn't take it back
> > like I
> > > said I was going to and it has been there for 8 days and he only
> > came back
> > > the one time.
> > >
> > > I'm going to let it ride a little longer before I make up my mind.
> > As you
> > > may have seen me write...we DO have coyotes here.
> > > BK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Hank]

Bob, It's not the coyote urine ...... I caught all of the little
buggers. Well it seemed that way after number eight. Glad to hear of
your success. All my plants have recovered but I only have one frog
left. I still keep the trap set just in case.

http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1

"bobkiely (Remove NOSPAM)" (Remove NOSPAM)>
wrote in message news:4lx_a.78507$zy.1362@fed1read06...
> Well, just for a tidbit of information....The last time I saw a
raccoon or
> any signs of one was well over a month ago and the coyote urine is
still in
> place and I haven't refreshed it or added to it....I guess it was
worth the
> money after all.
> BK
> "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> news:xRGQa.15719$zy.10035@fed1read06...
> > That thought crossed my mind when someone, I think it was jammer,
> suggested
> > I relocate them like you did - I don't have a pick-up truck and I
sure
> > wasn't going to put them in my car - even the trunk.
> > BK
> > "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > After all this talk about urine, the three raccoons that I
relocated
> > > all left their sweet little scent in the back of my p/u truck.
My wife
> > > says it is a statement as to my driving. Raccoon urine repels
humans
> > > ............ I don't need my alarm system anymore.
> > > No damage in 3 nights. Hope that's all of them.
> > >
> > > "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> > > news:1ZDQa.15677$zy.2790@fed1read06...
> > > > IFSKR: Hey....I might have rushed to judgement about the
coyote
> > > urine when I
> > > > said it doesn't work....I'm now undecided. I didn't take it
back
> > > like I
> > > > said I was going to and it has been there for 8 days and he
only
> > > came back
> > > > the one time.
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to let it ride a little longer before I make up my
mind.
> > > As you
> > > > may have seen me write...we DO have coyotes here.
> > > > BK
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>