Re: Anyone Have Japanese Beetles?

[Hank Pagel]

I took this from the U. of Ohio web page.
I left off option #4. Spraying of insecticides. ........ For obvious
reasons.

Adult Control
Option 1: Cultural Control - Hand Picking By noticing when the first
adults arrive on a property, you can pick off and destroy these scouts
that attract additional pests. The adults are less active in the
early-morning or late-evening. They can be destroyed by dropping into
a container of soapy water.

Option 2: Cultural Control - Plant Non Attractive Plants The adults do
not like to feed on ageratum, arborvitae, ash, baby's breath, garden
balsam, begonia, bleeding heart, boxwood, buttercups, caladium,
carnations, Chinese lantern plant, cockscomb, columbine, coralbells,
coralberry, coreopsis, cornflower, daisies, dogwood (flowering),
dusty-miller, euonymus, false cypresses, firs, forget-me-not,
forsythia, foxglove, hemlock, hollies, hydrangeas, junipers, kale
(ornamental), lilacs, lilies, magnolias, maple (red or silver only),
mulberry, nasturtium, oaks (red and white only), pines, poppies,
snapdragon, snowberry, speedwell, sweet pea, sweet-William, tuliptree,
violets and pansy, or yews (Taxus).

Option 3: Cultural Control - Trapping Several traps using a floral
lure and sex attractant are available. These traps are not recommended
for general use unless special conditions can be met. The traps have
been demonstrated to be effective in reducing damage and populations
only when landscapes are isolated from other Japanese beetle breeding
areas or when mass trapping (everyone in the neighborhood) is used. In
most urban areas, traps tend to attract more beetles into the area
than would normally be present. In this situation, adult feeding and
resultant grub populations are not reduced.

"Don Cunningham" > wrote in message
news:3f0dc3a6$1_4@newsfeed...
> We have them by the millions. They are swarming the pond. My fish
aren't big
> enough yet to enjoy them as a snack, and they are causing a real
problem.
> There are so many and they give off an oily substance that has
turned the
> water reddish brown.
>
> Anyone know how to deal with this?
>
> don cunningham
>
>

[Susan H. Simko]

Don Cunningham wrote:
> We have them by the millions. They are swarming the pond. My fish aren't big
> enough yet to enjoy them as a snack, and they are causing a real problem.
> There are so many and they give off an oily substance that has turned the
> water reddish brown.
>
> Anyone know how to deal with this?

Yeah, plant some roses. *sigh* No JBs in the pond but near decimated
rose bushes all over the property.

Susan
water gardener and lover of roses....
shsimko at duke dot edu

[Nedra]

I am able to hand pick the first ones that show up on my roses
thereby warding off most of the trailers....
I'm very lucky - from the sound of these posts.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"Susan H. Simko" > wrote in message
...
> Don Cunningham wrote:
> > We have them by the millions. They are swarming the pond. My fish aren't
big
> > enough yet to enjoy them as a snack, and they are causing a real
problem.
> > There are so many and they give off an oily substance that has turned
the
> > water reddish brown.
> >
> > Anyone know how to deal with this?
>
> Yeah, plant some roses. *sigh* No JBs in the pond but near decimated
> rose bushes all over the property.
>
> Susan
> water gardener and lover of roses....
> shsimko at duke dot edu
>
>

[Don Cunningham]

Indeed you are lucky, Nedra. They attack my birch trees first. It would be
difficult to pick them out of the top. :) The worst part is the oily
substance they secrete that turns the pond water red. That can't be very
comfortable for the fish.
Thanks, Hank and Susan for your response.

don cunningham

"Nedra" > wrote in message
thlink.net...
> I am able to hand pick the first ones that show up on my roses
> thereby warding off most of the trailers....
> I'm very lucky - from the sound of these posts.
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> "Susan H. Simko" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Don Cunningham wrote:
> > > We have them by the millions. They are swarming the pond. My fish
aren't
> big
> > > enough yet to enjoy them as a snack, and they are causing a real
> problem.
> > > There are so many and they give off an oily substance that has turned
> the
> > > water reddish brown.
> > >
> > > Anyone know how to deal with this?
> >
> > Yeah, plant some roses. *sigh* No JBs in the pond but near decimated
> > rose bushes all over the property.
> >
> > Susan
> > water gardener and lover of roses....
> > shsimko at duke dot edu
> >
> >
>
>

[Anne Lurie]

Don,

Since you already have tons of JB, you might try a trap or two to draw them
away from the pond. (or plant roses, as Susan said, sigh......) This year,
I decided not to use JB traps & see if things are better. So far, there
seem to be fewer JB than usual (or it's just early), and my grapevines still
have some intact leaves.

If I lived in an urban area, it wouldn't make much difference if I did not
put up traps & all my neighbors did, but I can't see any traps at the
neighbors', which means there aren't any within 200-300 feet, at least.

I used Sevin spray on edible plants & Orthonex on non-edibles, but my
situation is probably different from yours -- I have a teeny little water
garden on an acre.

BTW, I'm living proof that there is at least *one* person on this newsgroup
who hasn't been totally bitten by the pond bug! (At least not in the 4
years since we put in said teeny water garden.)

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC



"Don Cunningham" > wrote in message
news:3f0dc3a6$1_4@newsfeed...
> We have them by the millions. They are swarming the pond. My fish aren't
big
> enough yet to enjoy them as a snack, and they are causing a real problem.
> There are so many and they give off an oily substance that has turned the
> water reddish brown.
>
> Anyone know how to deal with this?
>
> don cunningham
>
>

[K30a]

Anne wrote >>BTW, I'm living proof that there is at least *one* person on this
newsgroup
who hasn't been totally bitten by the pond bug! <<

It's just dormant. For now.
>:-) evil chortle.


k30a

[Anne Lurie]

Well, yeah, maybe -- but it might take away my time from composing "my
ever-so-witty, eh wot" to the various newsgroups! (Umm, I just had a
*truly* wicked thought: I could direct PondWoman to rec.gardens.roses --
she'd never know what hit her!)

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC

"K30a" > wrote in message
...
> Anne wrote >>BTW, I'm living proof that there is at least *one* person on
this
> newsgroup
> who hasn't been totally bitten by the pond bug! <<
>
> It's just dormant. For now.
> >:-) evil chortle.
>
>
> k30a

[Fred]

(Umm, I just had a
> *truly* wicked thought: I could direct PondWoman to rec.gardens.roses --
> she'd never know what hit her!)
>
> Anne Lurie
> Raleigh, NC

If this is the typical reception that someone gets here when they offer
advice I hope I am never stupid enough to try to share anything. Fred

[Nedra]

Now, Hold on, Fred... our response was entirely deserved.
You have been here long enough to see how we welcome
newbies. They are not treated with anything but respect.

I'm the one who took offense at PW's forwardness in
pushing her product. If you want to take me to task, do so.
But don't make snide comments to the whole group... they
are a great bunch of people and don't deserve your ire.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Fred" > wrote in message
...
> (Umm, I just had a
> > *truly* wicked thought: I could direct PondWoman to
ec.gardens.roses --
> > she'd never know what hit her!)
> >
> > Anne Lurie
> > Raleigh, NC
>
> If this is the typical reception that someone gets here when they offer
> advice I hope I am never stupid enough to try to share anything. Fred
>
>
>

[Bonnie Espenshade]

Fred wrote:
> (Umm, I just had a
>
>>*truly* wicked thought: I could direct PondWoman to rec.gardens.roses --
>>she'd never know what hit her!)
>>
>>Anne Lurie
>>Raleigh, NC
>
>
> If this is the typical reception that someone gets here when they offer
> advice I hope I am never stupid enough to try to share anything. Fred
>
>

I'm sorry if you got the impression. When someone we don't
know comes in to sell us a product that will cure our
problems, I don't feel they are here to help us, only to
line their pockets.
If on the other hand they came in a chatted or answered
questions that were asked the reception would have been
friendly. We have many people in the pond business that
frequent here and we give them our business or suggest that
others visit their sites.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/

[John Rutz]

Fred wrote:
> (Umm, I just had a
>
>>*truly* wicked thought: I could direct PondWoman to rec.gardens.roses --
>>she'd never know what hit her!)
>>
>>Anne Lurie
>>Raleigh, NC
>
>
> If this is the typical reception that someone gets here when they offer
> advice I hope I am never stupid enough to try to share anything. Fred
>
>


-- nope not typical but we dont normaly have people trying to sell
unknown substances either





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

[Susan H. Simko]

Hank Pagel wrote:

> Adult Control
> Option 1: Cultural Control - Hand Picking By noticing when the first
> adults arrive on a property, you can pick off and destroy these scouts
> that attract additional pests. The adults are less active in the
> early-morning or late-evening. They can be destroyed by dropping into
> a container of soapy water.

IMO, this is what works best. I walk around the yard with a ziploc ba
half filled with soapy water, picking off the JBs and dumpin' in the
bag. When done, I zip it closed and drop it in the outside garbage can.
They don't bite or anything and once you get used to picking them off,
it becomes a triumph of sorts. I know, I'll be reported to the Society
for Preservation of JBs....

Something else that I hgighly recommend is the use of Milky Spore on
your property. The cost of the canister may be a bit intimidating to
some but when you look at how long the protection lasts, it's really
quite inexpensive. Once you put it down, campaign to get your
neighbours to put it down, and they can then bug their next immediate
neigbour, and so on and so on. *grin*

I've also managed this year to convince my neighbours' to give up their
bag-a-bug traps or locate them on the other side of their property line
from me. Since I have the most landscaping on the block, they tend to
want to "know my secerets". *grin* Despite them seeing me in the yard
each and every night, none of them want to think it's just simple
diligent work - they want "the secret" to all the flowers. This year, I
gave it to them. *laugh*

Sevin works well for destroying JBs but I hesitatie to use it. (I
actually have some in the garage that I have yet to use bout it in a
moment of extreme JB exasperation.) However, since i also work hard to
attract birds to my yard and some of those birds (the bluebirds in
particular) feed on insects, I don't want to cause accidental harm to
them. Insects devour sevin => birds devour insects => possible sice birds

Susan
shsimko at duke dot edu