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K30a
July 14th 03, 03:52 PM
I would not use a sonic device.
Even if they did work. I always worry
about overkill and the possibility that some
poor dog will be getting the 'effects' and not
be able to get away (like the poor dog on our
street sentenced to live in a tiny concrete
run).


k30a

BenignVanilla
July 14th 03, 04:11 PM
"infoseeker" <reply by post thx> wrote in message
...
> I went to the nursery where I got my coyote urine, and talked to them some
> more. They sort of turned their eyes sideways when I asked if it really
> worked. Then some statement like, "well, if you have coyotes in your
area,
> then it will work." I refrained from saying well, if they're in my area,
I
> wouldn't need the urine. At any rate, they recommended a sonic noisemaker
> thing. Has anyone tried it?
>
> They claim to use it themselves (I saw the box). Years ago I tried one
from
> Costco for moles, and it didn't do anything. My family thinks it's a bad
> idea based on that. Electric fencing seems way over kill for a whiskey
> barrel water garden!

If by sonic device you mean the crack of a .22 caliber bullet exiting the
barrel of a rifle, then yes, they work.

BV.

John Rutz
July 14th 03, 04:50 PM
K30a wrote:
> I would not use a sonic device.
> Even if they did work. I always worry
> about overkill and the possibility that some
> poor dog will be getting the 'effects' and not
> be able to get away (like the poor dog on our
> street sentenced to live in a tiny concrete
> run).
>
>
> k30a

I had two of those sonic mole chasers in my gardens they didnt seem to
bother the dog she had a hole she slept in right by one of them
it did seem to keep the moles or gophers away though I never saw what
was doing the digging so not sure what i was
--





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

infoseeker
July 14th 03, 06:25 PM
Well, my neighbor's already think I'm strange. I wonder if sitting in the
driveway with a .22 would change their opinion!
*LOL*


"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> "infoseeker" <reply by post thx> wrote in message
> ...
> > I went to the nursery where I got my coyote urine, and talked to them
some
> > more. They sort of turned their eyes sideways when I asked if it really
> > worked. Then some statement like, "well, if you have coyotes in your
> area,
> > then it will work." I refrained from saying well, if they're in my
area,
> I
> > wouldn't need the urine. At any rate, they recommended a sonic
noisemaker
> > thing. Has anyone tried it?
> >
> > They claim to use it themselves (I saw the box). Years ago I tried one
> from
> > Costco for moles, and it didn't do anything. My family thinks it's a
bad
> > idea based on that. Electric fencing seems way over kill for a whiskey
> > barrel water garden!
>
> If by sonic device you mean the crack of a .22 caliber bullet exiting the
> barrel of a rifle, then yes, they work.
>
> BV.
>
>

Kevin Carbis
July 14th 03, 07:22 PM
I tried one, worked great on my wife and daughter, they wouldn't go
near the pond once it was installed. It worked on the Racoons as
well, but since my wife is the one that spends the most time by the
pond it was untenable for us.

bobkiely
July 14th 03, 08:07 PM
IFSKR: Hey....I might have rushed to judgement about the coyote urine when I
said it doesn't work....I'm now undecided. I didn't take it back like I
said I was going to and it has been there for 8 days and he only came back
the one time.

I'm going to let it ride a little longer before I make up my mind. As you
may have seen me write...we DO have coyotes here.
BK

"infoseeker" <reply by post thx> wrote in message
...
> I went to the nursery where I got my coyote urine, and talked to them some
> more. They sort of turned their eyes sideways when I asked if it really
> worked. Then some statement like, "well, if you have coyotes in your
area,
> then it will work." I refrained from saying well, if they're in my area,
I
> wouldn't need the urine. At any rate, they recommended a sonic noisemaker
> thing. Has anyone tried it?
>
> They claim to use it themselves (I saw the box). Years ago I tried one
from
> Costco for moles, and it didn't do anything. My family thinks it's a bad
> idea based on that. Electric fencing seems way over kill for a whiskey
> barrel water garden!
>
> Thanks!
> B-- infoseeker
>
>


"infoseeker" <reply by post thx> wrote in message
...
> I went to the nursery where I got my coyote urine, and talked to them some
> more. They sort of turned their eyes sideways when I asked if it really
> worked. Then some statement like, "well, if you have coyotes in your
area,
> then it will work." I refrained from saying well, if they're in my area,
I
> wouldn't need the urine. At any rate, they recommended a sonic noisemaker
> thing. Has anyone tried it?
>
> They claim to use it themselves (I saw the box). Years ago I tried one
from
> Costco for moles, and it didn't do anything. My family thinks it's a bad
> idea based on that. Electric fencing seems way over kill for a whiskey
> barrel water garden!
>
> Thanks!
> B-- infoseeker
>
>

bobkiely
July 14th 03, 09:04 PM
Sorry about the duplicate/multiple posts. When I sent them I got an error
message saying they didn't go through so I re- did it and same message so I
re-did.....I'm doing it again aren't I....Sorry nevermind...:-)
BK
"bobkiely" > wrote in message
news:1ZDQa.15676$zy.13368@fed1read06...
> IFSKR: Hey....I might have rushed to judgement about the coyote urine when
I
> said it doesn't work....I'm now undecided. I didn't take it back like I
> said I was going to and it has been there for 8 days and he only came back
> the one time.
>
> I'm going to let it ride a little longer before I make up my mind. As you
> may have seen me write...we DO have coyotes here.
> BK
>
> "infoseeker" <reply by post thx> wrote in message
> ...
> > I went to the nursery where I got my coyote urine, and talked to them
some
> > more. They sort of turned their eyes sideways when I asked if it really
> > worked. Then some statement like, "well, if you have coyotes in your
> area,
> > then it will work." I refrained from saying well, if they're in my
area,
> I
> > wouldn't need the urine. At any rate, they recommended a sonic
noisemaker
> > thing. Has anyone tried it?
> >
> > They claim to use it themselves (I saw the box). Years ago I tried one
> from
> > Costco for moles, and it didn't do anything. My family thinks it's a
bad
> > idea based on that. Electric fencing seems way over kill for a whiskey
> > barrel water garden!
> >
> > Thanks!
> > B-- infoseeker
> >
> >
>
>
> "infoseeker" <reply by post thx> wrote in message
> ...
> > I went to the nursery where I got my coyote urine, and talked to them
some
> > more. They sort of turned their eyes sideways when I asked if it really
> > worked. Then some statement like, "well, if you have coyotes in your
> area,
> > then it will work." I refrained from saying well, if they're in my
area,
> I
> > wouldn't need the urine. At any rate, they recommended a sonic
noisemaker
> > thing. Has anyone tried it?
> >
> > They claim to use it themselves (I saw the box). Years ago I tried one
> from
> > Costco for moles, and it didn't do anything. My family thinks it's a
bad
> > idea based on that. Electric fencing seems way over kill for a whiskey
> > barrel water garden!
> >
> > Thanks!
> > B-- infoseeker
> >
> >
>
>

Hank Pagel
July 14th 03, 10:09 PM
I used one made to repel rodents only and it did not work. Squirrels
built a nest in my garage three feet from it. If it would have kept my
wife out of MY garage I would have kept it. ;-)

"infoseeker" <reply by post thx> wrote in message
...
> I went to the nursery where I got my coyote urine, and talked to
them some
> more. They sort of turned their eyes sideways when I asked if it
really
> worked. Then some statement like, "well, if you have coyotes in
your area,
> then it will work." I refrained from saying well, if they're in my
area, I
> wouldn't need the urine. At any rate, they recommended a sonic
noisemaker
> thing. Has anyone tried it?
>
> They claim to use it themselves (I saw the box). Years ago I tried
one from
> Costco for moles, and it didn't do anything. My family thinks it's
a bad
> idea based on that. Electric fencing seems way over kill for a
whiskey
> barrel water garden!
>
> Thanks!
> B-- infoseeker
>
>

John Hines
July 15th 03, 02:05 AM
"BenignVanilla" > wrote:

>"infoseeker" <reply by post thx> wrote in message
...
>> I went to the nursery where I got my coyote urine, and talked to them some
>> more. They sort of turned their eyes sideways when I asked if it really
>> worked. Then some statement like, "well, if you have coyotes in your
>area,
>> then it will work." I refrained from saying well, if they're in my area,
>I
>> wouldn't need the urine. At any rate, they recommended a sonic noisemaker
>> thing. Has anyone tried it?
>>
>> They claim to use it themselves (I saw the box). Years ago I tried one
>from
>> Costco for moles, and it didn't do anything. My family thinks it's a bad
>> idea based on that. Electric fencing seems way over kill for a whiskey
>> barrel water garden!
>
>If by sonic device you mean the crack of a .22 caliber bullet exiting the
>barrel of a rifle, then yes, they work.

Unless your an excellent marksman, a short barrel shotgun is the
preferred weapon. A discussion in another newsgroup about home security
came up with that as "the ultimate point and shoot weapon".

For "Varmits" a small bore gun will do, as the sound of the shotgun
chambering should be enough to stop any two legged night crawler in
their tracks.

K30a
July 15th 03, 02:53 AM
>>Sorry. You're off the NG.<<

You can earn your way back by
mailing us each a nice lotus plant.
;-)


k30a

John Rutz
July 15th 03, 03:29 AM
>
> Unless your an excellent marksman, a short barrel shotgun is the
> preferred weapon. A discussion in another newsgroup about home security
> came up with that as "the ultimate point and shoot weapon".
>
> For "Varmits" a small bore gun will do, as the sound of the shotgun
> chambering should be enough to stop any two legged night crawler in
> their tracks.


-- short bareled shotguns are usualy illegal in the US





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

bobkiely
July 15th 03, 07:06 PM
OK, questions:

1. How long am I banned if I don't send you a bunch of locusts?
2. K30a and Joe are first to receive the locusts...will 10,000 each be
enough?
3. Please forward ship to addresses.

Yours truly,
BK


"K30a" > wrote in message
...
> >>Sorry. You're off the NG.<<
>
> You can earn your way back by
> mailing us each a nice lotus plant.
> ;-)
>
>
> k30a

joe
July 15th 03, 07:15 PM
bobkiely wrote:

> 1. How long am I banned if I don't send you a bunch of locusts?
I think "Time served" would about do it.

> 2. K30a and Joe are first to receive the locusts...will 10,000 each be
> enough?

I'm going out right now to start digging.


Joe



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bobkiely
July 15th 03, 09:26 PM
Shhhhhh....(whisper) Joe's already digging the holes. Imagine his face when
he opens the box! *LOL*
BK
"K30a" > wrote in message
...
> bobkiely wrote >>you a bunch of locusts<<
>
> Locusts??!!
> We don't want no stinking locusts!!
> :-p
>
> l-o-t-u-s
>
>
>
> k30a

infoseeker
July 15th 03, 10:28 PM
Well, shoot! Thanks for all the gunnin' advice! : ]

As of yet, I haven't seen the raccoons actually going through the water
barrel. At this point, i'd be shootin in the dark. Hee hee.

B-Infoseeker
"Susan H. Simko" > wrote in message
...
> John Hines wrote:
>
> > Unless your an excellent marksman, a short barrel shotgun is the
> > preferred weapon. A discussion in another newsgroup about home security
> > came up with that as "the ultimate point and shoot weapon".
>
> Even if you are an excellent *markswoman* a shotgun is still best.
> *grin* Most people have never handled a gun under life threatening
> circumstances so why mess with something that requires precise aim?
> Besides, the range for shotgun pellets is much shorter than that of a
> bullet. Less ability to pierce walls and go into neighboring houses,
> etc. One of the first rules of gun handling is to always be sure of
> your backstop which you can't be when you're dealing with home security
> issues. (I'm now stuffing the rifle team geek back into the corner)
>
> > For "Varmits" a small bore gun will do, as the sound of the shotgun
> > chambering should be enough to stop any two legged night crawler in
> > their tracks.
>
> My s.o.'s stepdad just got a really really nice pellet rifle for varmit
> hunt'n. It's a Gamo and I got to play with it over the weekend. Really
> sweet pellet rifle if you're in the market for something like that.
> Darned near the power of a .22 (above caveat applies to this) with
> single pump operation. Makes our multiple pump pellet rifle pale in
> comparison.
>
> Susan who classes squirrels as rats with cuter tails
> shsimko at duke dot edu
>
>

infoseeker
July 15th 03, 10:36 PM
Hmmm. I'm not sure what to do now. Fortunately, the coons haven't been
back (they kept coming for a while even after the fish were eaten). I added
a few tadpoles 4 days ago, and I'm getting tempted to try again with a
couple of fish.

I've added a 'hiding place' in a cement block (one with a hole), and I've
added many more plants. I can't get my water barrel to stop leaking though
at about 2/3 way up. The wood is swelling ever so slowly. (Family doesn't
want formed plastic liner). Plants are looking great, and I'd hate to have
them shredded again.

K's words about nearby pets and the sonic noise is well taken- but I don't
have confidence that the sonic things are that strong. What to do....--
besides the shotgun or other firearm route. Hey, maybe I could get some on
sale fireworks!-- but I've never actually seen them near the barrel (or at
all), except once a few weeks ago- crossing my backyard...in daylight!


"John Rutz" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> K30a wrote:
> > I would not use a sonic device.
> > Even if they did work. I always worry
> > about overkill and the possibility that some
> > poor dog will be getting the 'effects' and not
> > be able to get away (like the poor dog on our
> > street sentenced to live in a tiny concrete
> > run).
> >
> >
> > k30a
>
> I had two of those sonic mole chasers in my gardens they didnt seem to
> bother the dog she had a hole she slept in right by one of them
> it did seem to keep the moles or gophers away though I never saw what
> was doing the digging so not sure what i was
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> John Rutz
> Z5 New Mexico
>
> never miss a good oportunity to shut up
>
> see my pond at:
>
> http://www.fuerjefe.com
>

July 17th 03, 01:51 AM
My DH just got my mother a BB hand gun to shoot at the deer... they are getting
completely insolent. just stand there with their tongue out when my mother hollers
at em, stamping their feet like they are going to make toe jam our of her HoneyChild
the Pom.
tree rats with good PR.
Ingrid

"Susan H. Simko" > wrote:
>My s.o.'s stepdad just got a really really nice pellet rifle for varmit
>hunt'n.
>Susan who classes squirrels as rats with cuter tails



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