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Nedra
July 21st 03, 11:32 PM
Sounds like readings from a KH test kit. KH measures
the alkalinity of the pond water. I like to keep the KH
at close to 140. Or a pH of 8.4... I add baking soda to
get the KH reading up.
One cup of Baking Soda to 1,000 gallons of water.
Only add one cup at a time each day until you have
reached the 120 (in your case) mark.
Instructions:
Mix a cup of Baking Soda in a couple of cups of pond water.
Drizzle the mixture around the pond then water the pond to
mix the BS in .... <VBG>

Hope this helps.

Nedra
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"*muffin*" > wrote in message
...
> my ph test kit says that 7.0 on the reading is neutral.
> above is alkaline.......
> but, some 'things' (like koizyme) want an alkalinity as a minimum of 80
> preferred is 100-120.
> where/how do you get those readings???????/
>
>
>

RichToyBox
July 23rd 03, 02:17 AM
BK

KoiZyme is a bacteria that out competes the aeromonas and psuedomonas
bacteria that cause the fish to develop ulcers. It is the closest thing to
a silver bullet that has ever come along for the elimination of bacterial
infections in fish. I have been using it since it was first introduced and
have not had to give injectable antibiotics but to a couple of fish since.

Your response on pH is correct, but what people are referring to as
alkalinity is the carbonate hardness KH which acts as a buffer to the pH
swings by the acids produced in the pond, mostly carbolic acid from the CO2
generated by the fish, bacteria, and at night by the submerged plants. KH
is called total hardness, temporary hardness, hardness, alkalinity, and
probably several other names. GH is also called hardness, permanent
hardness, and probably a few other things, but it is a measure of calcium
and magnesium in the water.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"bobkiely" > wrote in message
news:A_kTa.26040$zy.16056@fed1read06...
> Muffin:
> Your question is flawed. Or to give you an answer - No, they are not the
> same.
>
> Ph is the "measurement" of something's acidity or alkalinity on a scale
from
> 1 to 14. Examples: Hydrocholoric acid = 1; Lime-Away = 3; Vinegar = 6; Tap
> water = 7 (usually); Liquid floor cleaner = 9; Dishwasher detergent =
10-11;
> Caustic = 14.
>
> I've never seen a ph kit that has readings with 3 digits unless 127 means
> 12.7. When I lived in Ohio I used to work for a chemical company so I have
a
> little background on ph.
>
> The above examples are just that so don't hold me to the exact readings.
> Hope that helped.
> BK
>
> PS: BTW What is koizyme?
>
> "*muffin*" > wrote in message
> ...
> > my ph test kit says that 7.0 on the reading is neutral.
> > above is alkaline.......
> > but, some 'things' (like koizyme) want an alkalinity as a minimum of 80
> > preferred is 100-120.
> > where/how do you get those readings???????/
> >
> >
>
>

bobkiely
July 23rd 03, 04:32 AM
Thank you for that explanation...hopefully I won't need the information but
if I do I'll remember who to go to for the problem.
BK
"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
. net...
> BK
>
> KoiZyme is a bacteria that out competes the aeromonas and psuedomonas
> bacteria that cause the fish to develop ulcers. It is the closest thing
to
> a silver bullet that has ever come along for the elimination of bacterial
> infections in fish. I have been using it since it was first introduced
and
> have not had to give injectable antibiotics but to a couple of fish since.
>
> Your response on pH is correct, but what people are referring to as
> alkalinity is the carbonate hardness KH which acts as a buffer to the pH
> swings by the acids produced in the pond, mostly carbolic acid from the
CO2
> generated by the fish, bacteria, and at night by the submerged plants. KH
> is called total hardness, temporary hardness, hardness, alkalinity, and
> probably several other names. GH is also called hardness, permanent
> hardness, and probably a few other things, but it is a measure of calcium
> and magnesium in the water.
> --
> RichToyBox
> http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
>
>
> "bobkiely" > wrote in message
> news:A_kTa.26040$zy.16056@fed1read06...
> > Muffin:
> > Your question is flawed. Or to give you an answer - No, they are not the
> > same.
> >
> > Ph is the "measurement" of something's acidity or alkalinity on a scale
> from
> > 1 to 14. Examples: Hydrocholoric acid = 1; Lime-Away = 3; Vinegar = 6;
Tap
> > water = 7 (usually); Liquid floor cleaner = 9; Dishwasher detergent =
> 10-11;
> > Caustic = 14.
> >
> > I've never seen a ph kit that has readings with 3 digits unless 127
means
> > 12.7. When I lived in Ohio I used to work for a chemical company so I
have
> a
> > little background on ph.
> >
> > The above examples are just that so don't hold me to the exact readings.
> > Hope that helped.
> > BK
> >
> > PS: BTW What is koizyme?
> >
> > "*muffin*" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > my ph test kit says that 7.0 on the reading is neutral.
> > > above is alkaline.......
> > > but, some 'things' (like koizyme) want an alkalinity as a minimum of
80
> > > preferred is 100-120.
> > > where/how do you get those readings???????/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>