Heaters

[Steve carr]

Hi All,

Does anyone have any thoughts on using a heater purely for maintaining a
constant temperature. Any comment would be most helpful.

Cheer's

Steve.........

[Gunther]

In article >, sc002d6126
@blueyonder.co.uk says...
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on using a heater purely for maintaining a
> constant temperature. Any comment would be most helpful.
>
Pretty wise thing to do in most people's opinion.
Rapid drops in water temperature are stressful to goldfish.

G

[ChristineMB 7 27]

>Does anyone have any thoughts on using a heater purely for maintaining a
>constant temperature. Any comment would be most helpful.

______

Goldfish don't really need a heater as they like the cold water. If the water
gets too warm, they get lethargic. Heaters are mainly used for tropical fish.

~~~~Christine~~~~
Did you know that "a lot" are 2 separate words? Yes, really! :)

[Azul]

On 25 Aug 2003 09:38:31 GMT, (ChristineMB
7 27) wrote:

>>Does anyone have any thoughts on using a heater purely for maintaining a
>>constant temperature. Any comment would be most helpful.
>
>______
>
>Goldfish don't really need a heater as they like the cold water. If the water
>gets too warm, they get lethargic. Heaters are mainly used for tropical fish.
>
> ~~~~Christine~~~~
> Did you know that "a lot" are 2 separate words? Yes, really! :)
>
A lot depends on your definition of cold water. Most seem to think
fancy goldfish, because of the body shape require a higher temperature
than the single tailed goldies. But any rapid shift in temperature is
stressful to the fish whether higher or lower. I keep a heater on a
thermostat at all times to try to keep the temp as stable as possible.
I keep fancies and the temp of my tanks is around 74 degrees. My fish
are anything but lethargic.

Azul

[[email protected]]

most people keep fancy GF eventually will use a thermometer. GF are not really cold
water fish, that is, they dont thrive in cold water but can live despite being in
cold water. optimal temps for GF are around 75-78oF.
but the best use of a thermometer is to prevent the temp swinging around. sharp temp
drops stress the fish and bring on ich. Ingrid

"Steve carr" > wrote:
>Does anyone have any thoughts on using a heater purely for maintaining a
>constant temperature. Any comment would be most helpful.


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Steve carr wrote:

> Does anyone have any thoughts on using a heater purely for maintaining
> a constant temperature. Any comment would be most helpful.

Mine are dialed in at 74 deg F. House can drop to 62 at night, don't
want the water temp to move around.

-D
--
"There is nothing so strong as gentleness, and there is nothing so
gentle as real strength." St. Francis de Sales

[Gunther]

In article >,
says...
> >Does anyone have any thoughts on using a heater purely for maintaining a
> >constant temperature. Any comment would be most helpful.
>
> ______
>
> Goldfish don't really need a heater as they like the cold water. If the water
> gets too warm, they get lethargic. Heaters are mainly used for tropical fish.

This is absolute rot. As any goldfish keeper will tell you, as the
water temperature goes up, so does goldfish activity. When it
goes DOWN they get "lethargic" as do all cold-blooded animals.

If you raise the temp high enough, yes, your fish will be
dead = very lethargic.

Heaters are mainly used where ever one desires a constant temp
for the protection of the fish.
> ~~~~Christine~~~~
> Did you know that "a lot" are 2 separate words? Yes, really! :)

So is "bad advice."

Gunther

[Gunther]

In article >,
says...
> In article >,
> says...
> > In article >, sc002d6126
> > @blueyonder.co.uk says...
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any thoughts on using a heater purely for maintaining a
> > > constant temperature. Any comment would be most helpful.
> > >
> > Pretty wise thing to do in most people's opinion.
> > Rapid drops in water temperature are stressful to goldfish.
> >
> But what do you do about rapid rises?

You hope they don't happen, because chillers are much more
expensive than heaters. Rapid rises are tolerated better
than decreases, but are still undesirable. There are
some areas where it may not be possible to keep goldfish
without air conditioning, and the hope the AC stays working.

Most of the time, if the room environment is comfortable
for humans, the aquariums in it will be OK. In my area
(SF Bay) the Summers are generally balmy enough that I've
survived nicely without air conditioning for over 10 years.
However, at least once each Summer the temps go over 90F
long enough that I worry about the fish, especially the
ones in the tank I had stupidly located in the sunniest
hottest room of my new apartment. In that one I resorted to
adding chunks of ice and additional air stones (warm
water holds less O2 than cooler water) and managed to
keep the temp below 85F. As soon as possible, I relocated
the tank to shadier downstairs.

[Aside: why is it that my cat is too stupid to figure this
out? She sleeps in the hottest room in the house during
hot days, even tho there's a massive flagstone kitchen
floor that's always cool to the touch available to her
at all times. Dumb cat.]

In fact, this is one reason why I favor large-ish tank
sizes: the additional mass makes keeps the temperature
more stable -- it takes much longer exposure to 95F
room temperature to raise the water temp of a 55G tank
than a 10G one. Enough to where I never worry about my
55G tank -- the nights are cool around here, so the water
stays in the low 70s with no additional help from me.

HTH,
G

[Sneaks]

Just a warning to all....I had an heater in my tropical tank a few years
ago....it gets cold up here in NH and it was maintaining the temp for my
mollies and catfish while I was at work and the temps in the house would go
down to high 50s......until while at work it malfunctioned and I came home
to green water, a disgusting smell and 12 dead fish....the temp went up to
175F.....the poor things......moral of the story....buy a good
heater....check it frequently.....and keep the environmental temp in the
room close to where you want the tank to be so the heater is just for
emergency cold snaps......I learned the hard way.....

Sneaks

"Gunther" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >,
> says...
> > >Does anyone have any thoughts on using a heater purely for maintaining
a
> > >constant temperature. Any comment would be most helpful.
> >
> > ______
> >
> > Goldfish don't really need a heater as they like the cold water. If the
water
> > gets too warm, they get lethargic. Heaters are mainly used for tropical
fish.
>
> This is absolute rot. As any goldfish keeper will tell you, as the
> water temperature goes up, so does goldfish activity. When it
> goes DOWN they get "lethargic" as do all cold-blooded animals.
>
> If you raise the temp high enough, yes, your fish will be
> dead = very lethargic.
>
> Heaters are mainly used where ever one desires a constant temp
> for the protection of the fish.
> > ~~~~Christine~~~~
> > Did you know that "a lot" are 2 separate words? Yes, really! :)
>
> So is "bad advice."
>
> Gunther

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The only thing you could do is run a chiller if needed but imho
unnecessary

Marcus

http://www.Aquatic-store.com

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:46:05 -0700, Larry Blanchard
> wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>> In article >, sc002d6126
>> @blueyonder.co.uk says...
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any thoughts on using a heater purely for maintaining a
>> > constant temperature. Any comment would be most helpful.
>> >
>> Pretty wise thing to do in most people's opinion.
>> Rapid drops in water temperature are stressful to goldfish.
>>
>But what do you do about rapid rises?

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too true, and just get a heater large enough for the tank... even if it is on all the
time it cannot overheat. in this case, bigger isnt better. Ingrid

"Sneaks" > wrote:

>Just a warning to all....I had an heater in my tropical tank a few years
>ago....it gets cold up here in NH and it was maintaining the temp for my
>mollies and catfish while I was at work and the temps in the house would go
>down to high 50s......until while at work it malfunctioned and I came home
>to green water, a disgusting smell and 12 dead fish....the temp went up to
>175F.....the poor things......moral of the story....buy a good
>heater....check it frequently.....and keep the environmental temp in the
>room close to where you want the tank to be so the heater is just for
>emergency cold snaps......I learned the hard way.....


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Jerry Cloe]

This almost sounds like too large of a heater in too small of a tank.

What size was the tank and heater?


"Sneaks" > wrote in message
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> down to high 50s......until while at work it malfunctioned and I came home
> to green water, a disgusting smell and 12 dead fish....the temp went up to
> 175F.....the poor things......moral of the story....buy a good
>
> Sneaks

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No returns yet on these @ my store

Marcus

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Eheim 2026 $143
Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 04:09:58 GMT, "Sean" >
wrote:

>Has anyone had trouble with the digital heaters because i might want to buy
>one here my old one broke right in the tank i heard it go pop and looked in
>the tank and it was cracked it was a cheapy any advise would help
>