Re: Ouch !!!! Lotus has thorns

[Wendy Kelly Budd]

....thorns....??
--
Wendy* in N. California,
"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity
cannot survive.My religion is very simple. My religion is kindness." Dalai
Lama


"claude rogers" > wrote in message
...
> O.K. thanks to everyone who told me when, where, how deep, what container,
> basically everything one needs to know about putting lotus in my pond,
now,
> how come no one told me not to touch the stems on those vertical stems,
they
> are covered in little thorns, Ouch!!! learn something new every
> day....Claude
>
>

[Wendy Kelly Budd]

....thorns....??
--
Wendy* in N. California,
"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity
cannot survive.My religion is very simple. My religion is kindness." Dalai
Lama


"claude rogers" > wrote in message
...
> O.K. thanks to everyone who told me when, where, how deep, what container,
> basically everything one needs to know about putting lotus in my pond,
now,
> how come no one told me not to touch the stems on those vertical stems,
they
> are covered in little thorns, Ouch!!! learn something new every
> day....Claude
>
>

[Jerrispond]

>know about putting lotus in my pond,
>now,>> how come no one told me not to touch the stems on those vertical stems,
>they>> are covered in little thorns, Ouch!!!

ROFL sounds like the story of the princess and the pea.....you must have very
delicate hands............Jerri

http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond

[Jerrispond]

>know about putting lotus in my pond,
>now,>> how come no one told me not to touch the stems on those vertical stems,
>they>> are covered in little thorns, Ouch!!!

ROFL sounds like the story of the princess and the pea.....you must have very
delicate hands............Jerri

http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond

[Lee Brouillet]

The only lily I know of that has "thorns" is the Victoria, the ones that are
HUGE and whose leaves have a "lip" on them. When I say "huge", I *mean*
huge: there are photos of Victorian era ladies standing on the lily pads.

Is that what you have? O'wise, I don't know of any lilies that have thorns.
I'm not saying that I know of every lily OUT there, it's just that the
Victoria is the only "thorned" one I know of. They come from the Amazon
basin . . .

Lee

"claude rogers" > wrote in message
...
> O.K. thanks to everyone who told me when, where, how deep, what container,
> basically everything one needs to know about putting lotus in my pond,
now,
> how come no one told me not to touch the stems on those vertical stems,
they
> are covered in little thorns, Ouch!!! learn something new every
> day....Claude
>
>

[Lee Brouillet]

The only lily I know of that has "thorns" is the Victoria, the ones that are
HUGE and whose leaves have a "lip" on them. When I say "huge", I *mean*
huge: there are photos of Victorian era ladies standing on the lily pads.

Is that what you have? O'wise, I don't know of any lilies that have thorns.
I'm not saying that I know of every lily OUT there, it's just that the
Victoria is the only "thorned" one I know of. They come from the Amazon
basin . . .

Lee

"claude rogers" > wrote in message
...
> O.K. thanks to everyone who told me when, where, how deep, what container,
> basically everything one needs to know about putting lotus in my pond,
now,
> how come no one told me not to touch the stems on those vertical stems,
they
> are covered in little thorns, Ouch!!! learn something new every
> day....Claude
>
>

[Nedra]

Okay ... I think there is a picture of a lady standing on a
leaf somewhere on this url.
You'll have a marvellous time doing the tour type of thing ;-)

http://www.victoria-adventure.org

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"LN (remove NOSPAM)" > wrote in message
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> Oh, I wish I could see that!
>
> --
> LN in NH (new gardener in zone 5)
> http://photos.yahoo.com/lns_obsessed
>
>
> "Lee Brouillet" > wrote in message
> ...
> > When I say "huge", I *mean* huge: there are photos of Victorian era
ladies
> standing on the lily pads.
> >
>
>
>

[Nedra]

Okay ... I think there is a picture of a lady standing on a
leaf somewhere on this url.
You'll have a marvellous time doing the tour type of thing ;-)

http://www.victoria-adventure.org

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"LN (remove NOSPAM)" > wrote in message
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> Oh, I wish I could see that!
>
> --
> LN in NH (new gardener in zone 5)
> http://photos.yahoo.com/lns_obsessed
>
>
> "Lee Brouillet" > wrote in message
> ...
> > When I say "huge", I *mean* huge: there are photos of Victorian era
ladies
> standing on the lily pads.
> >
>
>
>

[Nedra]

Lori, I'm close enough to St. Louis that I can go to
the Missouri Botanical Garden and the Jewel Box often.
They have ponds of them in those two gardens.
I know... I'm very lucky.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"LN (remove NOSPAM)" > wrote in message
...
> So cool. That link only gave me a drawing of kids standing on the lily
pads,
> so my family didn't believe me. So, I did a search and found this:
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jhoneycutt/vic.htm.
>
> I would love to see these in person. One leaf is larger than my pond. LOL
> --
> LN in NH (new gardener in zone 5)
> http://photos.yahoo.com/lns_obsessed
>
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> thlink.net...
> > Okay ... I think there is a picture of a lady standing on a
> > leaf somewhere on this url.
> > You'll have a marvellous time doing the tour type of thing ;-)
> >
> > http://www.victoria-adventure.org
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
>
>
>

[Nedra]

Lori, I'm close enough to St. Louis that I can go to
the Missouri Botanical Garden and the Jewel Box often.
They have ponds of them in those two gardens.
I know... I'm very lucky.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"LN (remove NOSPAM)" > wrote in message
...
> So cool. That link only gave me a drawing of kids standing on the lily
pads,
> so my family didn't believe me. So, I did a search and found this:
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jhoneycutt/vic.htm.
>
> I would love to see these in person. One leaf is larger than my pond. LOL
> --
> LN in NH (new gardener in zone 5)
> http://photos.yahoo.com/lns_obsessed
>
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> thlink.net...
> > Okay ... I think there is a picture of a lady standing on a
> > leaf somewhere on this url.
> > You'll have a marvellous time doing the tour type of thing ;-)
> >
> > http://www.victoria-adventure.org
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
>
>
>

[claude rogers]

no guys, I said lotus not lily, has thorns on the vertical stems, and yes I
do have tender hands and feet too. Refuse to grow roses for that very
reason, just hate getting punctured. Although that big one in the picture
is very cool, but really, I didn't have any idea that lotus had little
thorns on the stems.

[claude rogers]

no guys, I said lotus not lily, has thorns on the vertical stems, and yes I
do have tender hands and feet too. Refuse to grow roses for that very
reason, just hate getting punctured. Although that big one in the picture
is very cool, but really, I didn't have any idea that lotus had little
thorns on the stems.

[Hank Pagel]

Somehow I question the authenticity of that photo. How did he get on
it without filling it with water?? The weight of his feet would have
to flex the leaf somewhat.(Well over 150 lbs.)
On the other hand the size and shape of the leaf would allow it
to displace his weight, just not in the manner pictured. IMO I
strongly feel this photo is altered.
One leaf would cover my little puddle ;-) Hmmmmm ...... maybe
that would keep the raccoons out.
Too cold in Jersey ........ I loose again.
Sorry if this double posted.

> >
>
>

[Hank Pagel]

Somehow I question the authenticity of that photo. How did he get on
it without filling it with water?? The weight of his feet would have
to flex the leaf somewhat.(Well over 150 lbs.)
On the other hand the size and shape of the leaf would allow it
to displace his weight, just not in the manner pictured. IMO I
strongly feel this photo is altered.
One leaf would cover my little puddle ;-) Hmmmmm ...... maybe
that would keep the raccoons out.
Too cold in Jersey ........ I loose again.
Sorry if this double posted.

> >
>
>

[*muffin*]

"Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
...
> Somehow I question the authenticity of that photo. How did he get on
> it without filling it with water?? The weight of his feet would have
> to flex the leaf somewhat.(Well over 150 lbs.)


they do not fill with water. they have 'slits' on 2 sides so when it rains
it does not fill.

> On the other hand the size and shape of the leaf would allow it
> to displace his weight, just not in the manner pictured. IMO I
> strongly feel this photo is altered.

usually , when they take pics,, the person is standing on a board to evenly
distribute the weight. but they do hold a LOT of weight.


> One leaf would cover my little puddle ;-) Hmmmmm ...... maybe
> that would keep the raccoons out.
> Too cold in Jersey

my victoria is only about 2 1/2 ft. leaves, right now,, but when they get
bigger, I am not planning on crawling ON them,,, talk about RAZOR sharp
barbs...........yike.

[*muffin*]

"Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
...
> Somehow I question the authenticity of that photo. How did he get on
> it without filling it with water?? The weight of his feet would have
> to flex the leaf somewhat.(Well over 150 lbs.)


they do not fill with water. they have 'slits' on 2 sides so when it rains
it does not fill.

> On the other hand the size and shape of the leaf would allow it
> to displace his weight, just not in the manner pictured. IMO I
> strongly feel this photo is altered.

usually , when they take pics,, the person is standing on a board to evenly
distribute the weight. but they do hold a LOT of weight.


> One leaf would cover my little puddle ;-) Hmmmmm ...... maybe
> that would keep the raccoons out.
> Too cold in Jersey

my victoria is only about 2 1/2 ft. leaves, right now,, but when they get
bigger, I am not planning on crawling ON them,,, talk about RAZOR sharp
barbs...........yike.

[LN \(remove NOSPAM\)]

I have since found another picture of someone on a lily. I know her from
another ng I'm on. She is sitting on a board.
http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/tfplab/lilyp.gif


--
LN in NH (new gardener in zone 5)
http://photos.yahoo.com/lns_obsessed


"*muffin*" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Hank Pagel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Somehow I question the authenticity of that photo. How did he get on
> > it without filling it with water?? The weight of his feet would have
> > to flex the leaf somewhat.(Well over 150 lbs.)
>
>
> they do not fill with water. they have 'slits' on 2 sides so when it rains
> it does not fill.
>
> > On the other hand the size and shape of the leaf would allow it
> > to displace his weight, just not in the manner pictured. IMO I
> > strongly feel this photo is altered.
>
> usually , when they take pics,, the person is standing on a board to
evenly
> distribute the weight. but they do hold a LOT of weight.
>
>
> > One leaf would cover my little puddle ;-) Hmmmmm ...... maybe
> > that would keep the raccoons out.
> > Too cold in Jersey
>
> my victoria is only about 2 1/2 ft. leaves, right now,, but when they get
> bigger, I am not planning on crawling ON them,,, talk about RAZOR sharp
> barbs...........yike.
>
>

[The Madd Hatter]

Looks real to me... Unlikely, but real... If you view it closely, you
can see the shadows behind him are on the plant and the background...
Also, Look at his reflection right in front of him... On the plant and
then in the water right in front... He'd have to be some genius w/
photoshop to manage that

On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:08:00 -0400, "Hank Pagel"
> wrote:

>Somehow I question the authenticity of that photo. How did he get on
>it without filling it with water?? The weight of his feet would have
>to flex the leaf somewhat.(Well over 150 lbs.)
> On the other hand the size and shape of the leaf would allow it
>to displace his weight, just not in the manner pictured. IMO I
>strongly feel this photo is altered.
> One leaf would cover my little puddle ;-) Hmmmmm ...... maybe
>that would keep the raccoons out.
> Too cold in Jersey ........ I loose again.
>Sorry if this double posted.
>
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>>
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>
>

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

I think this started out as Lotus with thorns and someone said you must be
the Victoria lily, BUT, in comparison to the smooth stem of a regular lily,
lotus do have.... well, stickers, at the very least, on their stems. ~ jan

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[BenignVanilla]

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
...
> I think this started out as Lotus with thorns and someone said you must be
> the Victoria lily, BUT, in comparison to the smooth stem of a regular
lily,
> lotus do have.... well, stickers, at the very least, on their stems. ~ jan

I pruned mine this weekend, and I agree they are thorny. Well maybe not
thorns. They are more like the little spikes on cucumber plants or pumpkin
vines.

BV.