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dkat
July 25th 03, 12:29 AM
Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they thought their
dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I now have a
new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start digging). Does
anyone know if this is possible? DK

Anne Lurie
July 25th 03, 12:47 AM
Was said pond filled with well water, by any chance?

A bigger problem

Anne

"joe" > wrote in message
...
> dkat wrote:
>
> > Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they thought
their
> > dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I now
have a
> > new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start digging).
Does
> > anyone know if this is possible? DK
>
> I guess they could pickup a parasite, but mine drink from it all the time.
> Seems like there are many other things outside other than pond water that
> can hurt a dog. Was the owner putting any kind of treatments in the water?
>
> Joe
>
>
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Anne Lurie
July 25th 03, 12:47 AM
Was said pond filled with well water, by any chance?

A bigger problem

Anne

"joe" > wrote in message
...
> dkat wrote:
>
> > Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they thought
their
> > dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I now
have a
> > new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start digging).
Does
> > anyone know if this is possible? DK
>
> I guess they could pickup a parasite, but mine drink from it all the time.
> Seems like there are many other things outside other than pond water that
> can hurt a dog. Was the owner putting any kind of treatments in the water?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
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July 25th 03, 12:50 AM
a lot less chance than drinking outta the toilet I would think. Ingrid

"dkat" > wrote:
>Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they thought their
>dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I now have a
>new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start digging). Does
>anyone know if this is possible? DK
>



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July 25th 03, 12:50 AM
a lot less chance than drinking outta the toilet I would think. Ingrid

"dkat" > wrote:
>Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they thought their
>dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I now have a
>new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start digging). Does
>anyone know if this is possible? DK
>



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K30a
July 25th 03, 01:31 AM
A ponder I know in the midwest had her grand-dog contract giardia and the vet
suspected it came from the pond.
Here is a web page
http://www.priory.com/vet/giardia.htm

That said, the watergardening labradors drink from the pond and the river and
have been fine for six years.
When this ponder asked for help I asked someone in the know and he suspected
the pond was overstocked and badly in need of cleaning. Also that a dog or cat
may have been using the pond as a potty.
In all my years on rec.ponds I think this is only the second time I've heard
someone think that their pond made their dog sick.


k30a

K30a
July 25th 03, 01:31 AM
A ponder I know in the midwest had her grand-dog contract giardia and the vet
suspected it came from the pond.
Here is a web page
http://www.priory.com/vet/giardia.htm

That said, the watergardening labradors drink from the pond and the river and
have been fine for six years.
When this ponder asked for help I asked someone in the know and he suspected
the pond was overstocked and badly in need of cleaning. Also that a dog or cat
may have been using the pond as a potty.
In all my years on rec.ponds I think this is only the second time I've heard
someone think that their pond made their dog sick.


k30a

zookeeper
July 25th 03, 01:45 AM
dkat wrote:
> Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they
> thought their dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not
> complaining since I now have a new pond...I just have to
> decide where to put it and start digging). Does anyone know
> if this is possible? DK

We have giardia in Oregon. It's carried by birds and wildlife, and since
both (herons, ducks, scrub and blue jays, raccoons, squirrels, and the
neighbor's feral cats) visit our pond, I've long considered it a
possibility in our pond. All of our dogs get sick each spring with
giardia like symptoms, but recover within a week or so. Now that I've
finally found a local outlet for PP, I'll dose the pond each spring and
maybe the dogs won't have the "spring trots."
--
Kathy B

zookeeper
July 25th 03, 01:45 AM
dkat wrote:
> Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they
> thought their dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not
> complaining since I now have a new pond...I just have to
> decide where to put it and start digging). Does anyone know
> if this is possible? DK

We have giardia in Oregon. It's carried by birds and wildlife, and since
both (herons, ducks, scrub and blue jays, raccoons, squirrels, and the
neighbor's feral cats) visit our pond, I've long considered it a
possibility in our pond. All of our dogs get sick each spring with
giardia like symptoms, but recover within a week or so. Now that I've
finally found a local outlet for PP, I'll dose the pond each spring and
maybe the dogs won't have the "spring trots."
--
Kathy B

Mr CDW
July 25th 03, 02:15 PM
My two Golden Retrievers often stop by the pond for a quick drink or to cool
their paws. We've never had any ill effects.

Mr CDW
July 25th 03, 02:15 PM
My two Golden Retrievers often stop by the pond for a quick drink or to cool
their paws. We've never had any ill effects.

Pinkpggy
July 25th 03, 03:33 PM
Our cocker has on occasion drank from the pond too, and never had any
problems.When he watches the koi, he gets excited and sticks his head into the
pond and takes a drink then. You can see a picture of him with his head in
the pond, our home page is with my signature.
Jan
http://hometown.aol.com/pinkpggy/us.html

Pinkpggy
July 25th 03, 03:33 PM
Our cocker has on occasion drank from the pond too, and never had any
problems.When he watches the koi, he gets excited and sticks his head into the
pond and takes a drink then. You can see a picture of him with his head in
the pond, our home page is with my signature.
Jan
http://hometown.aol.com/pinkpggy/us.html

ann in houston
July 25th 03, 04:42 PM
Why do you say that, Anne? I'm asking because we're on a well.


> Was said pond filled with well water, by any chance?
>
> A bigger problem
>
> Anne
>

ann in houston
July 25th 03, 04:42 PM
Why do you say that, Anne? I'm asking because we're on a well.


> Was said pond filled with well water, by any chance?
>
> A bigger problem
>
> Anne
>

Anne Lurie
July 25th 03, 06:47 PM
Here's another thought: were the people using algaecides? I don't use any,
because the label said that it should not be ingested by animals -- don't
recall if that meant as is, or when diluted in the pond, though.

Of course, life with algae is much easier now that I've learned that the
stuff on the side of the pond is OK and shouldn't be removed.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC



"dkat" > wrote in message
.net...
> Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they thought
their
> dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I now have
a
> new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start digging). Does
> anyone know if this is possible? DK
>
>

Anne Lurie
July 25th 03, 06:47 PM
Here's another thought: were the people using algaecides? I don't use any,
because the label said that it should not be ingested by animals -- don't
recall if that meant as is, or when diluted in the pond, though.

Of course, life with algae is much easier now that I've learned that the
stuff on the side of the pond is OK and shouldn't be removed.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC



"dkat" > wrote in message
.net...
> Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they thought
their
> dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I now have
a
> new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start digging). Does
> anyone know if this is possible? DK
>
>

johnrutz
July 25th 03, 08:31 PM
ann in houston wrote:
> Why do you say that, Anne? I'm asking because we're on a well.
>
>
>
>>Was said pond filled with well water, by any chance?
>>
>>A bigger problem
>>
>>Anne
>>
>
yes why would a well be a bigger problem ? I have had no trouble

--





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

johnrutz
July 25th 03, 08:31 PM
ann in houston wrote:
> Why do you say that, Anne? I'm asking because we're on a well.
>
>
>
>>Was said pond filled with well water, by any chance?
>>
>>A bigger problem
>>
>>Anne
>>
>
yes why would a well be a bigger problem ? I have had no trouble

--





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

jammer
July 26th 03, 12:08 AM
On 25 Jul 2003 14:33:33 GMT, (Pinkpggy) wrote:

>Our cocker has on occasion drank from the pond too, and never had any
>problems.When he watches the koi, he gets excited and sticks his head into the
>pond and takes a drink then. You can see a picture of him with his head in
>the pond, our home page is with my signature.
>Jan
>http://hometown.aol.com/pinkpggy/us.html

What a darling dog and nice little pond....

jammer
July 26th 03, 12:08 AM
On 25 Jul 2003 14:33:33 GMT, (Pinkpggy) wrote:

>Our cocker has on occasion drank from the pond too, and never had any
>problems.When he watches the koi, he gets excited and sticks his head into the
>pond and takes a drink then. You can see a picture of him with his head in
>the pond, our home page is with my signature.
>Jan
>http://hometown.aol.com/pinkpggy/us.html

What a darling dog and nice little pond....

dkat
July 26th 03, 12:18 AM
We are on Long Island and this fellow is extremely efficient in keeping his
tank water clean so I imagine he was the same on the pond. He also did not
have it very long and it was a small 4'X6' preform..... Personally I
didn't think the water could make his dogs sick until I read this
suggestion. My cats and dog drink the water from my water gardens/ponds all
the time (prefer that to even the toilet)..... Anyway it is nice to know and
consider.
I don't think I can talk him into a second attempt but if I do what is PP
and is it "save" for dogs?
DK
"zookeeper" > wrote in message
...
> dkat wrote:
> > Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they
> > thought their dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not
> > complaining since I now have a new pond...I just have to
> > decide where to put it and start digging). Does anyone know
> > if this is possible? DK
>
> We have giardia in Oregon. It's carried by birds and wildlife, and since
> both (herons, ducks, scrub and blue jays, raccoons, squirrels, and the
> neighbor's feral cats) visit our pond, I've long considered it a
> possibility in our pond. All of our dogs get sick each spring with
> giardia like symptoms, but recover within a week or so. Now that I've
> finally found a local outlet for PP, I'll dose the pond each spring and
> maybe the dogs won't have the "spring trots."
> --
> Kathy B
>

dkat
July 26th 03, 12:18 AM
We are on Long Island and this fellow is extremely efficient in keeping his
tank water clean so I imagine he was the same on the pond. He also did not
have it very long and it was a small 4'X6' preform..... Personally I
didn't think the water could make his dogs sick until I read this
suggestion. My cats and dog drink the water from my water gardens/ponds all
the time (prefer that to even the toilet)..... Anyway it is nice to know and
consider.
I don't think I can talk him into a second attempt but if I do what is PP
and is it "save" for dogs?
DK
"zookeeper" > wrote in message
...
> dkat wrote:
> > Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they
> > thought their dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not
> > complaining since I now have a new pond...I just have to
> > decide where to put it and start digging). Does anyone know
> > if this is possible? DK
>
> We have giardia in Oregon. It's carried by birds and wildlife, and since
> both (herons, ducks, scrub and blue jays, raccoons, squirrels, and the
> neighbor's feral cats) visit our pond, I've long considered it a
> possibility in our pond. All of our dogs get sick each spring with
> giardia like symptoms, but recover within a week or so. Now that I've
> finally found a local outlet for PP, I'll dose the pond each spring and
> maybe the dogs won't have the "spring trots."
> --
> Kathy B
>

Hank Pagel
July 26th 03, 01:30 AM
I think if I were a dog, I would rather drink green pond water than
blue toilet water. If the water is safe for fish and wildlife it
should be safe for pets too.
IMO A clean pond is better for them then chemically treated
city water.

"dkat" > wrote in message
.net...
> Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they
thought their
> dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I
now have a
> new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start digging).
Does
> anyone know if this is possible? DK
>
>

Hank Pagel
July 26th 03, 01:30 AM
I think if I were a dog, I would rather drink green pond water than
blue toilet water. If the water is safe for fish and wildlife it
should be safe for pets too.
IMO A clean pond is better for them then chemically treated
city water.

"dkat" > wrote in message
.net...
> Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they
thought their
> dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I
now have a
> new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start digging).
Does
> anyone know if this is possible? DK
>
>

July 26th 03, 03:58 PM
http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#POTASSIUM

(K30a) wrote:

>DK wrote << what is PP
>and is it "safe" for dogs? >>
>
>PP is is potassium permanganate.
>Do not attempt to use it until you know
>exactly how to handle it.
>(I can't get Roark's page to open today,
>does anyone else have a good page to reference
>on working with potassium permanganate?)
>
>
>
>
>
>k30a



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www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

July 26th 03, 03:58 PM
http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#POTASSIUM

(K30a) wrote:

>DK wrote << what is PP
>and is it "safe" for dogs? >>
>
>PP is is potassium permanganate.
>Do not attempt to use it until you know
>exactly how to handle it.
>(I can't get Roark's page to open today,
>does anyone else have a good page to reference
>on working with potassium permanganate?)
>
>
>
>
>
>k30a



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

johnrutz
July 26th 03, 04:48 PM
wrote:
> http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#POTASSIUM
>
> (K30a) wrote:
>
>
>>DK wrote << what is PP
>>and is it "safe" for dogs? >>
>>
>>PP is is potassium permanganate.
>>Do not attempt to use it until you know
>>exactly how to handle it.
>>(I can't get Roark's page to open today,
>>does anyone else have a good page to reference
>>on working with potassium permanganate?)
>>

try

>>
>>http://www.click2roark.com/cgi-win/weborder.exe?operation=getdoc&document=index2




John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

johnrutz
July 26th 03, 04:48 PM
wrote:
> http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#POTASSIUM
>
> (K30a) wrote:
>
>
>>DK wrote << what is PP
>>and is it "safe" for dogs? >>
>>
>>PP is is potassium permanganate.
>>Do not attempt to use it until you know
>>exactly how to handle it.
>>(I can't get Roark's page to open today,
>>does anyone else have a good page to reference
>>on working with potassium permanganate?)
>>

try

>>
>>http://www.click2roark.com/cgi-win/weborder.exe?operation=getdoc&document=index2




John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

Hank
July 27th 03, 09:28 PM
I don't see that as a problem knowing what dogs will sometimes eat.
Heck, they are even known to grab a snack from kitties litter box
without getting sick.(although it makes me sick thinking about it)

"Andrew Burgess" > wrote in message
...
> (Montanan) writes:
>
> >"dkat" > wrote in message
>...
> >> Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they
thought their
> >> dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I
now have a
> >> new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start
digging). Does
> >> anyone know if this is possible? DK
>
> >Biologically filtered pond water much better than what animals
usually get.
>
> It would be interesting to measure the nitrate level and compare to
> water quality specs for potable water. I don't know what the
symptoms
> of nitrate ingestion are...
>

Hank
July 27th 03, 09:28 PM
I don't see that as a problem knowing what dogs will sometimes eat.
Heck, they are even known to grab a snack from kitties litter box
without getting sick.(although it makes me sick thinking about it)

"Andrew Burgess" > wrote in message
...
> (Montanan) writes:
>
> >"dkat" > wrote in message
>...
> >> Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they
thought their
> >> dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I
now have a
> >> new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start
digging). Does
> >> anyone know if this is possible? DK
>
> >Biologically filtered pond water much better than what animals
usually get.
>
> It would be interesting to measure the nitrate level and compare to
> water quality specs for potable water. I don't know what the
symptoms
> of nitrate ingestion are...
>

Wayne
July 27th 03, 10:59 PM
My dog would rather drink from my pre-formed pond than his water dish. In
fact, when I siphon water from the pond (partial water change) through a
garden hose, many times I get a mouthful of it. Of course, I spit it out
but it doesn't leave a taste behind any different from drinking my tap
water.

"Hank" > wrote in message
...
> I don't see that as a problem knowing what dogs will sometimes eat.
> Heck, they are even known to grab a snack from kitties litter box
> without getting sick.(although it makes me sick thinking about it)
>
> "Andrew Burgess" > wrote in message
> ...
> > (Montanan) writes:
> >
> > >"dkat" > wrote in message
> >...
> > >> Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they
> thought their
> > >> dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I
> now have a
> > >> new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start
> digging). Does
> > >> anyone know if this is possible? DK
> >
> > >Biologically filtered pond water much better than what animals
> usually get.
> >
> > It would be interesting to measure the nitrate level and compare to
> > water quality specs for potable water. I don't know what the
> symptoms
> > of nitrate ingestion are...
> >
>
>
>

Wayne
July 27th 03, 10:59 PM
My dog would rather drink from my pre-formed pond than his water dish. In
fact, when I siphon water from the pond (partial water change) through a
garden hose, many times I get a mouthful of it. Of course, I spit it out
but it doesn't leave a taste behind any different from drinking my tap
water.

"Hank" > wrote in message
...
> I don't see that as a problem knowing what dogs will sometimes eat.
> Heck, they are even known to grab a snack from kitties litter box
> without getting sick.(although it makes me sick thinking about it)
>
> "Andrew Burgess" > wrote in message
> ...
> > (Montanan) writes:
> >
> > >"dkat" > wrote in message
> >...
> > >> Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they
> thought their
> > >> dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I
> now have a
> > >> new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start
> digging). Does
> > >> anyone know if this is possible? DK
> >
> > >Biologically filtered pond water much better than what animals
> usually get.
> >
> > It would be interesting to measure the nitrate level and compare to
> > water quality specs for potable water. I don't know what the
> symptoms
> > of nitrate ingestion are...
> >
>
>
>

Dave Bell
July 28th 03, 12:00 AM
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, Hank wrote:

> I don't see that as a problem knowing what dogs will sometimes eat.
> Heck, they are even known to grab a snack from kitties litter box
> without getting sick.(although it makes me sick thinking about it)

.... then come, lay their heads in your lap, and BREATHE on you!

Dave

Dave Bell
July 28th 03, 12:00 AM
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, Hank wrote:

> I don't see that as a problem knowing what dogs will sometimes eat.
> Heck, they are even known to grab a snack from kitties litter box
> without getting sick.(although it makes me sick thinking about it)

.... then come, lay their heads in your lap, and BREATHE on you!

Dave

Hank
July 28th 03, 12:22 AM
And give you a BIG kiss!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Dave Bell" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, Hank wrote:
>
> > I don't see that as a problem knowing what dogs will sometimes
eat.
> > Heck, they are even known to grab a snack from kitties litter box
> > without getting sick.(although it makes me sick thinking about it)
>
> ... then come, lay their heads in your lap, and BREATHE on you!
>
> Dave
>

Hank
July 28th 03, 12:22 AM
And give you a BIG kiss!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Dave Bell" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, Hank wrote:
>
> > I don't see that as a problem knowing what dogs will sometimes
eat.
> > Heck, they are even known to grab a snack from kitties litter box
> > without getting sick.(although it makes me sick thinking about it)
>
> ... then come, lay their heads in your lap, and BREATHE on you!
>
> Dave
>

BenignVanilla
July 31st 03, 05:55 PM
"dkat" > wrote in message
.net...
> Someone I know just tore out their preformed pond because they thought
their
> dog got sick from drinking the water (I'm not complaining since I now have
a
> new pond...I just have to decide where to put it and start digging). Does
> anyone know if this is possible? DK

Certainly possible, but I doubt likely. My dog drinks from the pond, the
toilet, puddles, etc. If it's liquid, she'll gulp it up, as will her friend
porter. I have not seen either get sick from it.

BV.