two sick fantails

[Kat]

Hi All-

I really need some help. I've had two fantail goldfish for about five years
now, and have never had to deal with any diseases until now, and I'm unsure
what to do.

Two weeks ago the smaller orange fantail was sitting in a corner of the
tank. His fins had a white edging to them, and looked like something had
been eating at them. He wouldn't eat, and looked miserable. My guess was fin
rot, but having never experienced this first hand I wasn't completely sure.
I took him out for fear the other guy would catch whatever he had, and
treated him with Multi Cure. The multi cure has: 0.4g/L Methylene Blue,
0.425g/L Malachite Green and 2g/L Acriflavine. This seemed to work well, and
I put him back with his friend when his fins looked better.

Then I noticed a few days later the other fish was attacking my orange
fantail, and he looked sick again. So again I take him out to save him from
the bully, and now he looks happy again.

But now, the other fish has gotten really sick, really quickly. His fins had
the same white edging, looked ragged, there was a strange film hanging off
his gills, and a white growth happening on one of his eyes. Now his gills
are looking red, and all he does is sit at the bottom of his tank and gasp.
I've also removed him from the main tank and treated with the same
multi-cure, but nothing is happening.

What can I do? I get contradictory advice from every pet shop person I speak
to, and I really want to help my poor little fish.

I've noticed in the past few weeks what appeared to be tiny air bubbles in
the tank. Could this have contributed to my fish illness?

Does this also mean my main tank is now contaminated, and should I disinfect
it and start again?

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Not sure if you will need to start again, but
check your water parameters and start doing some
water changes on a regular basis.

Fin Rot is normally due to bad water conditions.

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you got a water quality problem. what are your water quality parameters, ammonia,
nitrites, nitrates and pH?
EMERGENCY
1. check the water parameters: pH, ammonia, nitrite, nitrates
2. do the fish physical
3. change some or all of the water, add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons water
4. from the water parameters and physical decide on a course of action
5. if there is nothing specific, do the tub to tub method
add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons, no additives, dissolve first, add slowly.
always, first thing to do when fish looking down is do some BIG WATER CHANGES. do
that before treating the fish, especially when those fish been isolated from disease
for that long. the white crap is their slime coat thick and beginning to shed.
tub to tub would be good too.
http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#TUB_TO_TUB
Ingrid

Kat > wrote:

>Hi All-
>
>I really need some help. I've had two fantail goldfish for about five years
>now, and have never had to deal with any diseases until now, and I'm unsure
>what to do.
>
>Two weeks ago the smaller orange fantail was sitting in a corner of the
>tank. His fins had a white edging to them, and looked like something had
>been eating at them. He wouldn't eat, and looked miserable. My guess was fin
>rot, but having never experienced this first hand I wasn't completely sure.
>I took him out for fear the other guy would catch whatever he had, and
>treated him with Multi Cure. The multi cure has: 0.4g/L Methylene Blue,
>0.425g/L Malachite Green and 2g/L Acriflavine. This seemed to work well, and
>I put him back with his friend when his fins looked better.
>
>Then I noticed a few days later the other fish was attacking my orange
>fantail, and he looked sick again. So again I take him out to save him from
>the bully, and now he looks happy again.
>
>But now, the other fish has gotten really sick, really quickly. His fins had
>the same white edging, looked ragged, there was a strange film hanging off
>his gills, and a white growth happening on one of his eyes. Now his gills
>are looking red, and all he does is sit at the bottom of his tank and gasp.
>I've also removed him from the main tank and treated with the same
>multi-cure, but nothing is happening.
>
>What can I do? I get contradictory advice from every pet shop person I speak
>to, and I really want to help my poor little fish.
>
>I've noticed in the past few weeks what appeared to be tiny air bubbles in
>the tank. Could this have contributed to my fish illness?
>
>Does this also mean my main tank is now contaminated, and should I disinfect
>it and start again?
>



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[Kat]

thank you very much for your advice, and the link was really helpful. My
workplace now thinks I'm insane for staying home to take care of a sick
goldfish...
Kat


in article , at
wrote on 24/9/03 12:39 AM:

> you got a water quality problem. what are your water quality parameters,
> ammonia,
> nitrites, nitrates and pH?
> EMERGENCY
> 1. check the water parameters: pH, ammonia, nitrite, nitrates
> 2. do the fish physical
> 3. change some or all of the water, add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons water
> 4. from the water parameters and physical decide on a course of action
> 5. if there is nothing specific, do the tub to tub method
> add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons, no additives, dissolve first, add slowly.
> always, first thing to do when fish looking down is do some BIG WATER CHANGES.
> do
> that before treating the fish, especially when those fish been isolated from
> disease
> for that long. the white crap is their slime coat thick and beginning to
> shed.
> tub to tub would be good too.
> http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#TUB_T
> O_TUB
> Ingrid
>
> Kat > wrote:
>
>> Hi All-
>>
>> I really need some help. I've had two fantail goldfish for about five years
>> now, and have never had to deal with any diseases until now, and I'm unsure
>> what to do.
>>
>> Two weeks ago the smaller orange fantail was sitting in a corner of the
>> tank. His fins had a white edging to them, and looked like something had
>> been eating at them. He wouldn't eat, and looked miserable. My guess was fin
>> rot, but having never experienced this first hand I wasn't completely sure.
>> I took him out for fear the other guy would catch whatever he had, and
>> treated him with Multi Cure. The multi cure has: 0.4g/L Methylene Blue,
>> 0.425g/L Malachite Green and 2g/L Acriflavine. This seemed to work well, and
>> I put him back with his friend when his fins looked better.
>>
>> Then I noticed a few days later the other fish was attacking my orange
>> fantail, and he looked sick again. So again I take him out to save him from
>> the bully, and now he looks happy again.
>>
>> But now, the other fish has gotten really sick, really quickly. His fins had
>> the same white edging, looked ragged, there was a strange film hanging off
>> his gills, and a white growth happening on one of his eyes. Now his gills
>> are looking red, and all he does is sit at the bottom of his tank and gasp.
>> I've also removed him from the main tank and treated with the same
>> multi-cure, but nothing is happening.
>>
>> What can I do? I get contradictory advice from every pet shop person I speak
>> to, and I really want to help my poor little fish.
>>
>> I've noticed in the past few weeks what appeared to be tiny air bubbles in
>> the tank. Could this have contributed to my fish illness?
>>
>> Does this also mean my main tank is now contaminated, and should I disinfect
>> it and start again?
>>
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Kat wrote:
>
> thank you very much for your advice, and the link was really helpful. My
> workplace now thinks I'm insane for staying home to take care of a sick
> goldfish...
> Kat

so do I!