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DonKcR
July 28th 03, 06:34 PM
How big are rosey reds? Never seen one, but by the looks of your message I
would never want over "1". I'm already over stocked! Kc
"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
.. .
> Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
have
> about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
along
> the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
> that.
>
> Sam
>
>

DonKcR
July 28th 03, 06:34 PM
How big are rosey reds? Never seen one, but by the looks of your message I
would never want over "1". I'm already over stocked! Kc
"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
.. .
> Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
have
> about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
along
> the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
> that.
>
> Sam
>
>

johnrutz
July 28th 03, 06:41 PM
Sam Hopkins wrote:
> Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I have
> about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all along
> the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
> that.
>
> Sam
>
>
are you sure you didnt miss one or two ?

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Z5 New Mexico

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see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

johnrutz
July 28th 03, 06:41 PM
Sam Hopkins wrote:
> Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I have
> about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all along
> the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
> that.
>
> Sam
>
>
are you sure you didnt miss one or two ?

--





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

Sam Hopkins
July 28th 03, 09:15 PM
Bob I know you're building a big rec pond too. Let me say this. There's no
need to go by stocking rates. I stocked 100 bass, 100 catfish, 100
bluegills, 1,000 rosey reds (the minimum I could get), and 48 shiners. A few
months later there's a billion fish. Had I gone by the stocking rates the
government puts out (and the fish hatchery) It would have cost about
$6,000.00. Instead I payed $660.00 and everyone's happy.

"Bob Adkins" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:08:45 -0400, "Sam Hopkins"
> > wrote:
>
> >Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
have
> >about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
along
> >the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
> >that.
>
> So I should need only 3, right? Send them! :-)
>
> Bob

Sam Hopkins
July 28th 03, 09:15 PM
Bob I know you're building a big rec pond too. Let me say this. There's no
need to go by stocking rates. I stocked 100 bass, 100 catfish, 100
bluegills, 1,000 rosey reds (the minimum I could get), and 48 shiners. A few
months later there's a billion fish. Had I gone by the stocking rates the
government puts out (and the fish hatchery) It would have cost about
$6,000.00. Instead I payed $660.00 and everyone's happy.

"Bob Adkins" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:08:45 -0400, "Sam Hopkins"
> > wrote:
>
> >Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
have
> >about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
along
> >the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
> >that.
>
> So I should need only 3, right? Send them! :-)
>
> Bob

April1201
July 28th 03, 11:01 PM
Do rosey reds eat guppies?

April1201
July 28th 03, 11:01 PM
Do rosey reds eat guppies?

jammer
July 29th 03, 08:24 AM
Yes, if i ever get curious about these "rosey reds", I think about ONE
would do.

Of course, my luck, it would be pregnant.




On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:34:55 -0700, "DonKcR" > wrote:

>How big are rosey reds? Never seen one, but by the looks of your message I
>would never want over "1". I'm already over stocked! Kc
>"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
>have
>> about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
>along
>> the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
>> that.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>>
>

jammer
July 29th 03, 08:24 AM
Yes, if i ever get curious about these "rosey reds", I think about ONE
would do.

Of course, my luck, it would be pregnant.




On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:34:55 -0700, "DonKcR" > wrote:

>How big are rosey reds? Never seen one, but by the looks of your message I
>would never want over "1". I'm already over stocked! Kc
>"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
>have
>> about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
>along
>> the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
>> that.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>>
>

BenignVanilla
July 29th 03, 03:32 PM
"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
.. .
> Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
have
> about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
along
> the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
> that.

I put less then a dozen in my pond, and I now have several hundred. Go to
PetSmart and buy a dozen for a dollar or so...then you will have an endless
supply.

BV.

BenignVanilla
July 29th 03, 03:32 PM
"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
.. .
> Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
have
> about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
along
> the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
> that.

I put less then a dozen in my pond, and I now have several hundred. Go to
PetSmart and buy a dozen for a dollar or so...then you will have an endless
supply.

BV.

Robyn Rhudy
July 29th 03, 05:03 PM
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, jammer wrote:

>
> Yes, if i ever get curious about these "rosey reds", I think about ONE
> would do.

Each pond is different. If you notice, those people who have a billion of
them usually have large ponds or new ponds which have few predators. I
keep fatheads (natural rosy reds) in my 1800 gallon pond. Many babies
made it the first few years of my pond in 1997 and 1998. Now, I have
maybe 30 of them in the entire pond. Why? They are preferred by these
predators in my ponds - snakes, raccoons, orfe, and bullfrogs. I put some
in my 153 gallon pond this spring. Again, for my situation, they are NOT
overpopulated. So, don't immediately consider them some sort of out of
control pest when it varies situation to situation. They are my favorite
fish and the reason I started with aquariums and ponds so I tend to stand
up for them! My site is the probably the only real one on them at
http://userpages.umbc.edu/~rrhudy1/rosies.htm and
http://userpages.umbc.edu/~rrhudy1/rosy2.htm

>
> Of course, my luck, it would be pregnant.
>

They cannot be pregnant. Females are egg-laden or "ripe." A female by
herself cannot expel her eggs and if she could, without a male to
fertilize them, no wee ones would be forthcoming. If I added just one
minnow, someone would soon eat him. They must be tasty as bullfrogs,
raccoons, turtles, herons, and all sorts of animals go after them. Unlike
some other fish who shall remain nameless, rosy reds are sweet fish who do
not harm other fish (males will drive others from their nest but not hurt
them) or eat tadpoles or chew off other fishes' fins. I've spent a lot of
time nursing batches back to health that I got sold as feeders. They are
treated so poorly. They deserve much better!

>
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:34:55 -0700, "DonKcR" > wrote:
>
> >How big are rosey reds? Never seen one, but by the looks of your message I
> >would never want over "1". I'm already over stocked! Kc
> >"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
> >have
> >> about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
> >along
> >> the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
> >> that.
> >>
> >> Sam
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>


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Robyn Rhudy
July 29th 03, 05:03 PM
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, jammer wrote:

>
> Yes, if i ever get curious about these "rosey reds", I think about ONE
> would do.

Each pond is different. If you notice, those people who have a billion of
them usually have large ponds or new ponds which have few predators. I
keep fatheads (natural rosy reds) in my 1800 gallon pond. Many babies
made it the first few years of my pond in 1997 and 1998. Now, I have
maybe 30 of them in the entire pond. Why? They are preferred by these
predators in my ponds - snakes, raccoons, orfe, and bullfrogs. I put some
in my 153 gallon pond this spring. Again, for my situation, they are NOT
overpopulated. So, don't immediately consider them some sort of out of
control pest when it varies situation to situation. They are my favorite
fish and the reason I started with aquariums and ponds so I tend to stand
up for them! My site is the probably the only real one on them at
http://userpages.umbc.edu/~rrhudy1/rosies.htm and
http://userpages.umbc.edu/~rrhudy1/rosy2.htm

>
> Of course, my luck, it would be pregnant.
>

They cannot be pregnant. Females are egg-laden or "ripe." A female by
herself cannot expel her eggs and if she could, without a male to
fertilize them, no wee ones would be forthcoming. If I added just one
minnow, someone would soon eat him. They must be tasty as bullfrogs,
raccoons, turtles, herons, and all sorts of animals go after them. Unlike
some other fish who shall remain nameless, rosy reds are sweet fish who do
not harm other fish (males will drive others from their nest but not hurt
them) or eat tadpoles or chew off other fishes' fins. I've spent a lot of
time nursing batches back to health that I got sold as feeders. They are
treated so poorly. They deserve much better!

>
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:34:55 -0700, "DonKcR" > wrote:
>
> >How big are rosey reds? Never seen one, but by the looks of your message I
> >would never want over "1". I'm already over stocked! Kc
> >"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
> >have
> >> about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
> >along
> >> the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
> >> that.
> >>
> >> Sam
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>


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jammer
July 29th 03, 07:55 PM
Point well taken. I do not have any predators around and think i would
have the over population. My pond (let) is only 70 gallons. Thanks for
the info.



On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:03:26 -0400, Robyn Rhudy >
wrote:

>
>On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, jammer wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, if i ever get curious about these "rosey reds", I think about ONE
>> would do.
>
>Each pond is different. If you notice, those people who have a billion of
>them usually have large ponds or new ponds which have few predators. I
>keep fatheads (natural rosy reds) in my 1800 gallon pond. Many babies
>made it the first few years of my pond in 1997 and 1998. Now, I have
>maybe 30 of them in the entire pond. Why? They are preferred by these
>predators in my ponds - snakes, raccoons, orfe, and bullfrogs. I put some
>in my 153 gallon pond this spring. Again, for my situation, they are NOT
>overpopulated. So, don't immediately consider them some sort of out of
>control pest when it varies situation to situation. They are my favorite
>fish and the reason I started with aquariums and ponds so I tend to stand
>up for them! My site is the probably the only real one on them at
>http://userpages.umbc.edu/~rrhudy1/rosies.htm and
>http://userpages.umbc.edu/~rrhudy1/rosy2.htm
>
>>
>> Of course, my luck, it would be pregnant.
>>
>
>They cannot be pregnant. Females are egg-laden or "ripe." A female by
>herself cannot expel her eggs and if she could, without a male to
>fertilize them, no wee ones would be forthcoming. If I added just one
>minnow, someone would soon eat him. They must be tasty as bullfrogs,
>raccoons, turtles, herons, and all sorts of animals go after them. Unlike
>some other fish who shall remain nameless, rosy reds are sweet fish who do
>not harm other fish (males will drive others from their nest but not hurt
>them) or eat tadpoles or chew off other fishes' fins. I've spent a lot of
>time nursing batches back to health that I got sold as feeders. They are
>treated so poorly. They deserve much better!
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:34:55 -0700, "DonKcR" > wrote:
>>
>> >How big are rosey reds? Never seen one, but by the looks of your message I
>> >would never want over "1". I'm already over stocked! Kc
>> >"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >> Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
>> >have
>> >> about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
>> >along
>> >> the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
>> >> that.
>> >>
>> >> Sam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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jammer
July 29th 03, 07:55 PM
Point well taken. I do not have any predators around and think i would
have the over population. My pond (let) is only 70 gallons. Thanks for
the info.



On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:03:26 -0400, Robyn Rhudy >
wrote:

>
>On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, jammer wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, if i ever get curious about these "rosey reds", I think about ONE
>> would do.
>
>Each pond is different. If you notice, those people who have a billion of
>them usually have large ponds or new ponds which have few predators. I
>keep fatheads (natural rosy reds) in my 1800 gallon pond. Many babies
>made it the first few years of my pond in 1997 and 1998. Now, I have
>maybe 30 of them in the entire pond. Why? They are preferred by these
>predators in my ponds - snakes, raccoons, orfe, and bullfrogs. I put some
>in my 153 gallon pond this spring. Again, for my situation, they are NOT
>overpopulated. So, don't immediately consider them some sort of out of
>control pest when it varies situation to situation. They are my favorite
>fish and the reason I started with aquariums and ponds so I tend to stand
>up for them! My site is the probably the only real one on them at
>http://userpages.umbc.edu/~rrhudy1/rosies.htm and
>http://userpages.umbc.edu/~rrhudy1/rosy2.htm
>
>>
>> Of course, my luck, it would be pregnant.
>>
>
>They cannot be pregnant. Females are egg-laden or "ripe." A female by
>herself cannot expel her eggs and if she could, without a male to
>fertilize them, no wee ones would be forthcoming. If I added just one
>minnow, someone would soon eat him. They must be tasty as bullfrogs,
>raccoons, turtles, herons, and all sorts of animals go after them. Unlike
>some other fish who shall remain nameless, rosy reds are sweet fish who do
>not harm other fish (males will drive others from their nest but not hurt
>them) or eat tadpoles or chew off other fishes' fins. I've spent a lot of
>time nursing batches back to health that I got sold as feeders. They are
>treated so poorly. They deserve much better!
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:34:55 -0700, "DonKcR" > wrote:
>>
>> >How big are rosey reds? Never seen one, but by the looks of your message I
>> >would never want over "1". I'm already over stocked! Kc
>> >"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >> Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
>> >have
>> >> about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
>> >along
>> >> the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
>> >> that.
>> >>
>> >> Sam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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Sam Hopkins
July 30th 03, 03:27 PM
They're about the same size more or less.

"April1201" > wrote in message
...
> Do rosey reds eat guppies?

Sam Hopkins
July 30th 03, 03:27 PM
They're about the same size more or less.

"April1201" > wrote in message
...
> Do rosey reds eat guppies?

Sam Hopkins
July 30th 03, 03:34 PM
Bob,

They're put in the pond for food for the bass. I've read everywhere
that bluegills dont eat fish however all the bluegills I have raised in
aquariums eat them with no reserve. Around here they're used as bait for
fishing. As bait or for pond stocking they are called "fatheads" but in the
petstore they are called "rosey reds". Around here at least you're supposed
to stock them and golden shiners before your bass so that they get establish
before the bass start sucking them down. I stocked them at the same time as
my bass but my bass where only 1.5-2 inches long and wouldnt have been able
to eat the full sized ones anyways. 1,000 of them cost around $100.00 or so
delivered via UPS.

Sam

"Bob Adkins" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:08:45 -0400, "Sam Hopkins"
> > wrote:
>
> >Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
have
> >about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
along
> >the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
> >that.
>
> Hey Sam, how are rosy red's as food for bluegill? How about eating
> mosquitos? Do they eat as many as mosquito fish? How about bait? Think
they
> would be easy to net for use as bluegill and bass bait? About how much
does
> 1000 cost delivered?
>
> I have 100 more questions, but I'll leave you alone for now. :-)
>
> Bob

Sam Hopkins
July 30th 03, 03:34 PM
Bob,

They're put in the pond for food for the bass. I've read everywhere
that bluegills dont eat fish however all the bluegills I have raised in
aquariums eat them with no reserve. Around here they're used as bait for
fishing. As bait or for pond stocking they are called "fatheads" but in the
petstore they are called "rosey reds". Around here at least you're supposed
to stock them and golden shiners before your bass so that they get establish
before the bass start sucking them down. I stocked them at the same time as
my bass but my bass where only 1.5-2 inches long and wouldnt have been able
to eat the full sized ones anyways. 1,000 of them cost around $100.00 or so
delivered via UPS.

Sam

"Bob Adkins" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:08:45 -0400, "Sam Hopkins"
> > wrote:
>
> >Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
have
> >about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
along
> >the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
> >that.
>
> Hey Sam, how are rosy red's as food for bluegill? How about eating
> mosquitos? Do they eat as many as mosquito fish? How about bait? Think
they
> would be easy to net for use as bluegill and bass bait? About how much
does
> 1000 cost delivered?
>
> I have 100 more questions, but I'll leave you alone for now. :-)
>
> Bob

jammer
July 31st 03, 01:04 AM
I have caught an aweful lot of bluegill on minnows for "them" to be
saying bluegill don't eat fish!



On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:34:21 -0400, "Sam Hopkins"
> wrote:

>Bob,
>
> They're put in the pond for food for the bass. I've read everywhere
>that bluegills dont eat fish however all the bluegills I have raised in
>aquariums eat them with no reserve. Around here they're used as bait for
>fishing. As bait or for pond stocking they are called "fatheads" but in the
>petstore they are called "rosey reds". Around here at least you're supposed
>to stock them and golden shiners before your bass so that they get establish
>before the bass start sucking them down. I stocked them at the same time as
>my bass but my bass where only 1.5-2 inches long and wouldnt have been able
>to eat the full sized ones anyways. 1,000 of them cost around $100.00 or so
>delivered via UPS.
>
>Sam
>
>"Bob Adkins" > wrote in message
...
>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:08:45 -0400, "Sam Hopkins"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Looks like the 1,000 rosey reds I stocked in my pond spawned and now I
>have
>> >about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,003 new ones all
>along
>> >the shoreline of my pond. It's crazy seeing drones of fish schools like
>> >that.
>>
>> Hey Sam, how are rosy red's as food for bluegill? How about eating
>> mosquitos? Do they eat as many as mosquito fish? How about bait? Think
>they
>> would be easy to net for use as bluegill and bass bait? About how much
>does
>> 1000 cost delivered?
>>
>> I have 100 more questions, but I'll leave you alone for now. :-)
>>
>> Bob
>