A Quest for Fire...I mean...Potash

[BenignVanilla]

I called two more garden centers yesterday. One can order Potash, and the
other may have 2 bags in storage. I have to call back today. I was told by
one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in bombs
used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true, but
living this close to DC, I guess it could make sense. Anyway, still no
potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing.

--
BenignVanilla
Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond

[Lee Brouillet]

Do you have a store that specializes in hydroponics anywhere around where
you live? That's where I found mine. You pay through the nose for it
compared to "regular" garden centers, but if you can't find it cheaply, it
may be better to get it ANYwhere and have it while you're looking for a
"cheap" supply. I think I got a 3 lb. box for $5 or so . . . you only need a
Tbs. per 1,000 gallons, so it's still relatively inexpensive.

Lee

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> I called two more garden centers yesterday. One can order Potash, and the
> other may have 2 bags in storage. I have to call back today. I was told by
> one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in
bombs
> used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true, but
> living this close to DC, I guess it could make sense. Anyway, still no
> potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing.
>
> --
> BenignVanilla
> Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
>
>
>

[Lee Brouillet]

Do you have a store that specializes in hydroponics anywhere around where
you live? That's where I found mine. You pay through the nose for it
compared to "regular" garden centers, but if you can't find it cheaply, it
may be better to get it ANYwhere and have it while you're looking for a
"cheap" supply. I think I got a 3 lb. box for $5 or so . . . you only need a
Tbs. per 1,000 gallons, so it's still relatively inexpensive.

Lee

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> I called two more garden centers yesterday. One can order Potash, and the
> other may have 2 bags in storage. I have to call back today. I was told by
> one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in
bombs
> used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true, but
> living this close to DC, I guess it could make sense. Anyway, still no
> potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing.
>
> --
> BenignVanilla
> Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
>
>
>

[K30a]

BV wrote >>the prime ingredient in bombs<<

Here's an interesting article about another ponder's useful item, potassium
permanganate,
and the law......

http://members.aol.com/roark7/private/pprant.htm


k30a
yearly brother website posting
http://www.30acreimaging.com/

[K30a]

BV wrote >>the prime ingredient in bombs<<

Here's an interesting article about another ponder's useful item, potassium
permanganate,
and the law......

http://members.aol.com/roark7/private/pprant.htm


k30a
yearly brother website posting
http://www.30acreimaging.com/

[BenignVanilla]

"FBCS" > wrote in message
...
> Nice pictures on the website. I am in MD also, my lillies are doing the
same
> thing. I thought it was just life cycle. New pads are stsrting to pop up.
> Joann

My lettuce is yellowing. My Lotus is yellowing. My lilies are yellowing.
This has got to be a nutrient issue.

BV.

[BenignVanilla]

"FBCS" > wrote in message
...
> Nice pictures on the website. I am in MD also, my lillies are doing the
same
> thing. I thought it was just life cycle. New pads are stsrting to pop up.
> Joann

My lettuce is yellowing. My Lotus is yellowing. My lilies are yellowing.
This has got to be a nutrient issue.

BV.

[ajames54]

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:59:11 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
> wrote:
>I was told by
>one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in bombs
>used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true

Not true ... IIRC Ammonium Nitrate is the chemical they used
while also a fertilizer it is not related to potash...


>(no) potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing.

FWIW potash encourages growth .. more and bigger leaves/longer
stems and roots. If your plants are yellowing you need to
encourage photosyntheses ... to do this you are looking at adding

Nitrogen
Iron
Magnesium
Sulphur

Since adding Nitrogen can cause an algae bloom I prefer to start
by adding epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) at 1 tsp/1000 gallons
then chealated Iron 7% at 1/2 tsp /1000

If this does not help and it looks like I need to add nitrogen I
remove plants and start feeding the fish more they can supply the
nitrogen.

[ajames54]

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:59:11 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
> wrote:
>I was told by
>one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in bombs
>used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true

Not true ... IIRC Ammonium Nitrate is the chemical they used
while also a fertilizer it is not related to potash...


>(no) potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing.

FWIW potash encourages growth .. more and bigger leaves/longer
stems and roots. If your plants are yellowing you need to
encourage photosyntheses ... to do this you are looking at adding

Nitrogen
Iron
Magnesium
Sulphur

Since adding Nitrogen can cause an algae bloom I prefer to start
by adding epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) at 1 tsp/1000 gallons
then chealated Iron 7% at 1/2 tsp /1000

If this does not help and it looks like I need to add nitrogen I
remove plants and start feeding the fish more they can supply the
nitrogen.

[BenignVanilla]

"ajames54" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:59:11 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
> > wrote:
> >I was told by
> >one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in
bombs
> >used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true
>
> Not true ... IIRC Ammonium Nitrate is the chemical they used
> while also a fertilizer it is not related to potash...
>
>
> >(no) potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing.
>
> FWIW potash encourages growth .. more and bigger leaves/longer
> stems and roots. If your plants are yellowing you need to
> encourage photosyntheses ... to do this you are looking at adding
>
> Nitrogen
> Iron
> Magnesium
> Sulphur
>
> Since adding Nitrogen can cause an algae bloom I prefer to start
> by adding epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) at 1 tsp/1000 gallons
> then chealated Iron 7% at 1/2 tsp /1000
>
> If this does not help and it looks like I need to add nitrogen I
> remove plants and start feeding the fish more they can supply the
> nitrogen.

Would it be a viable solution to start feeding my fish a bit now?

BV.

[BenignVanilla]

"ajames54" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:59:11 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
> > wrote:
> >I was told by
> >one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in
bombs
> >used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true
>
> Not true ... IIRC Ammonium Nitrate is the chemical they used
> while also a fertilizer it is not related to potash...
>
>
> >(no) potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing.
>
> FWIW potash encourages growth .. more and bigger leaves/longer
> stems and roots. If your plants are yellowing you need to
> encourage photosyntheses ... to do this you are looking at adding
>
> Nitrogen
> Iron
> Magnesium
> Sulphur
>
> Since adding Nitrogen can cause an algae bloom I prefer to start
> by adding epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) at 1 tsp/1000 gallons
> then chealated Iron 7% at 1/2 tsp /1000
>
> If this does not help and it looks like I need to add nitrogen I
> remove plants and start feeding the fish more they can supply the
> nitrogen.

Would it be a viable solution to start feeding my fish a bit now?

BV.

[BenignVanilla]

"johnrutz" > wrote in message
...
<snip>
> if your plants and most of thier roots are in the pot yes the fert
> sticks would work.
>
> I suppose you can have too many plants, and run low on nutrients, what I
> have been doing since my stock of fertilizer makers has gone way down
> and my plants are not poted is add a package of Miracle grow to the
> veggie filter when the plants start lookin poorly.
> if you do this youll have to guestimate the dosage, I add one pk to 5000
> gallons, it did spark a small algae bloom, giving the water a slight
> green tint
<snip>

Do you mean the powder? That is fish safe? I have some MG at home now, and
could do it tonight.

BV.

[BenignVanilla]

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
<snip>
> So do you think I could crush the pellets? Or just toss a few in and let
> them dissolve in the VF?
<snip>

Culligan in Elkridge has 40lb bags of pellets for $12.75. They are at 7391
Washington Blvd (Rt. 1), (410) 379-5319. They have it in stock, and are open
weekdays 8-5, 9-3 on Sat. The question now, is can I use pellets?

BV.

[ajames54]

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:50:55 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
> wrote:

>"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
><snip>
>> So do you think I could crush the pellets? Or just toss a few in and let
>> them dissolve in the VF?
><snip>
>
>Culligan in Elkridge has 40lb bags of pellets for $12.75. They are at 7391
>Washington Blvd (Rt. 1), (410) 379-5319. They have it in stock, and are open
>weekdays 8-5, 9-3 on Sat. The question now, is can I use pellets?
>
>BV.
>
Yes... they will be fine.. and at 40 lbs you will never need to
buy them again.

[zookeeper]

BenignVanilla wrote:
> "BenignVanilla" > wrote
> <snip>
>
>>So do you think I could crush the pellets? Or just toss a few in and let
>>them dissolve in the VF?
>
> Culligan in Elkridge has 40lb bags of pellets for $12.75. They are at 7391
> Washington Blvd (Rt. 1), (410) 379-5319. They have it in stock, and are open
> weekdays 8-5, 9-3 on Sat. The question now, is can I use pellets?

If it is similar to what I bought, the "pellets" are about the size of
rock salt and they dissolve in warm water. I put a couple tablespoons in
a half gallon jug, added warm water and swirled until they dissolved.
Then I just poured it around the perimeter of the pond, concentrating it
around the plants.
--
zookeeper

[BenignVanilla]

"ajames54" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:50:55 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
> > wrote:
>
> >"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
> ...
> ><snip>
> >> So do you think I could crush the pellets? Or just toss a few in and
let
> >> them dissolve in the VF?
> ><snip>
> >
> >Culligan in Elkridge has 40lb bags of pellets for $12.75. They are at
7391
> >Washington Blvd (Rt. 1), (410) 379-5319. They have it in stock, and are
open
> >weekdays 8-5, 9-3 on Sat. The question now, is can I use pellets?
> >
> >BV.
> >
> Yes... they will be fine.. and at 40 lbs you will never need to
> buy them again.

Should I crush them, or just toss a few in?

BV.

[Sam Hopkins]

Call an AG (farm) store like Agway. You'll get a 50 pound bag for like 5
bucks.


"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> I called two more garden centers yesterday. One can order Potash, and the
> other may have 2 bags in storage. I have to call back today. I was told by
> one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in
bombs
> used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true, but
> living this close to DC, I guess it could make sense. Anyway, still no
> potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing.
>
> --
> BenignVanilla
> Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
>
>
>

[BenignVanilla]

"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
.. .
> low iron in your water.
<snip>

So I should toss in some rebar? :) Seriously, how to test/solve?

BV.

[BenignVanilla]

"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
.. .
> Call an AG (farm) store like Agway. You'll get a 50 pound bag for like 5
> bucks.
<snip>

I am not sure I have an Agway nearby, either way. I found it at a water
softener store.

BV.

[ajames54]

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:56:14 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
> wrote:

>
>"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
.. .
>> low iron in your water.
><snip>
>
>So I should toss in some rebar? :) Seriously, how to test/solve?
>
>BV.
>


There are Iron test kits available...

if it is low you should add chelated Iron, available at better
garden stores.

There is a related condition called Chlorosis .. which is usually
a deficiency of Iron but can also be Zinc or Manganese. It is
characterized by yellowing leaves with dark green veins.

The best guide for plant fertilizer is found at www.thekrib.com

more specifically
http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Fertilizer/

They are talking about aquaria but except for the size of the
dose the info is still the same.

The PMDD recipe is quite good and useful...

[Andrew Burgess]

"BenignVanilla" > writes:

>So do you think I could crush the pellets? Or just toss a few in and let
>them dissolve in the VF?

I just toss them in the filter. When I used them in the aquarium I tossed them
in the tank. Some koi took an interest, tastes salty I guess...

[Andrew Burgess]

"BenignVanilla" > writes:

>"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
.. .
>> low iron in your water.
><snip>

>So I should toss in some rebar? :) Seriously, how to test/solve?

Chelated iron from a garden store. Powder, cheap. I
dump it into the filter.

Chelated is more expensive than just iron sulphate, and somehow
'more available'. I've forgotten too much chemistry to explain
why. K30a?

Might as well get some epsom salts at the grocery store while
you're at it.

[johnrutz]

BenignVanilla wrote:
> "johnrutz" > wrote in message
> ...
> <snip>
>
>>if your plants and most of thier roots are in the pot yes the fert
>>sticks would work.
>>
>>I suppose you can have too many plants, and run low on nutrients, what I
>>have been doing since my stock of fertilizer makers has gone way down
>>and my plants are not poted is add a package of Miracle grow to the
>>veggie filter when the plants start lookin poorly.
>>if you do this youll have to guestimate the dosage, I add one pk to 5000
>>gallons, it did spark a small algae bloom, giving the water a slight
>>green tint
>
> <snip>
>
> Do you mean the powder? That is fish safe? I have some MG at home now, and
> could do it tonight.
>
> BV.
>
>


-- yes it is as its diluted so much just watch your concentration,
i cant find how much is in a pkg ( i have the 7.5 lb box ) but im using
1 pkg for 5000 gallons





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

[David Modine]

Johnsons Garden Center stocks potash. The have several locations in the
DC Metro area.
David


BenignVanilla wrote:
>
> I called two more garden centers yesterday. One can order Potash, and the
> other may have 2 bags in storage. I have to call back today. I was told by
> one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in bombs
> used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true, but
> living this close to DC, I guess it could make sense. Anyway, still no
> potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing.
>
> --
> BenignVanilla
> Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond

[johnrutz]

BenignVanilla wrote:
> "BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
> ...
> <snip>
>
>>So do you think I could crush the pellets? Or just toss a few in and let
>>them dissolve in the VF?
>
> <snip>
>
> Culligan in Elkridge has 40lb bags of pellets for $12.75. They are at 7391
> Washington Blvd (Rt. 1), (410) 379-5319. They have it in stock, and are open
> weekdays 8-5, 9-3 on Sat. The question now, is can I use pellets?
>
> BV.
>
>
yes just put em in the VF where the water is moving thy'll disolve over
an few minutes,
I figure one tab is one oz- BTW

--





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

[johnrutz]

BenignVanilla wrote:
> "ajames54" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:50:55 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
>>><snip>
>>>
>>
BV did you reverse the flow in your pond or are you still gravity
feeding your VF?

Im pumping from the fish off the bottom to the VF, and the plants are
doing reasonably well considering the 100+ temps we get all the
dietrus is building up in the plant roots and feeding em that way



John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

[K30a]

Band is on a break and we hit the web......
Chelated iron has all sorts of goody minerals bound to it for the plants, 10 to
12 minor elements is best, it lasts the longest and seems to be recommended by
all the plant gurus on the web.
Was good to stretch his brain around something other than the bass strings.
Joke: What is the difference between a bass player and a pizza?
~~ The pizza can feed a family of four.


k30a
yearly brother website posting
http://www.30acreimaging.com/

[RichToyBox]

BV,

If you have not been feeding those fish, what have you been waiting for???
As you start to feed, the fish will generate more ammonia, so keep an eye on
it and let it control the feeding rate. Enjoy the pleasure of feeding the
fish.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> "ajames54" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:59:11 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
> > > wrote:
> > >I was told by
> > >one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in
> bombs
> > >used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true
> >
> > Not true ... IIRC Ammonium Nitrate is the chemical they used
> > while also a fertilizer it is not related to potash...
> >
> >
> > >(no) potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing.
> >
> > FWIW potash encourages growth .. more and bigger leaves/longer
> > stems and roots. If your plants are yellowing you need to
> > encourage photosyntheses ... to do this you are looking at adding
> >
> > Nitrogen
> > Iron
> > Magnesium
> > Sulphur
> >
> > Since adding Nitrogen can cause an algae bloom I prefer to start
> > by adding epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) at 1 tsp/1000 gallons
> > then chealated Iron 7% at 1/2 tsp /1000
> >
> > If this does not help and it looks like I need to add nitrogen I
> > remove plants and start feeding the fish more they can supply the
> > nitrogen.
>
> Would it be a viable solution to start feeding my fish a bit now?
>
> BV.
>
>

[Andrew Burgess]

(K30a) writes:

>Chelated iron has all sorts of goody minerals bound to it for the plants, 10 to
>12 minor elements is best, it lasts the longest and seems to be recommended by
>all the plant gurus on the web.

I don't think this is correct. This describes a chelated micronutrient blend.

Chelated iron only has iron as a nutrient.
Its bound to a chelating agent (like EDTA I think) which keeps it available
to plants, otherwise it undergoes a reaction that I forgot and becomes
harder for a plant to use.

>Joke: What is the difference between a bass player and a pizza?
>~~ The pizza can feed a family of four.

Q: What do you call someone who hangs around musicians?
A: A drummer.

[K30a]

Darn, I erased all my information I collected!
We could have had my sources and your sources at 20 paces.

>>Q: What do you call someone who hangs around musicians?
A: A drummer.<<

Our drummer brought over new *super* drums today, big, black, take up half the
room and can seriously relocate your spinal column. Actually make the
watergardening labradors jump up off the floor when he first starts up.




k30a
yearly brother website posting
http://www.30acreimaging.com/

[Nedra]

Kathy, I am re-living my sons teen years thru your postings.
LOL! What fun - I so enjoyed their teen years... they
had two rock bands - which practiced every night in
my tiny house (one story - 24' x 44').
Denny was the drummer... had two sets, going constantly.
Dave was the guitarist - had a total of 5!
BTW, they are now 50 and 47 year old men.
Gosh, I do miss those days.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"K30a" > wrote in message
...
> Darn, I erased all my information I collected!
> We could have had my sources and your sources at 20 paces.
>
> >>Q: What do you call someone who hangs around musicians?
> A: A drummer.<<
>
> Our drummer brought over new *super* drums today, big, black, take up half
the
> room and can seriously relocate your spinal column. Actually make the
> watergardening labradors jump up off the floor when he first starts up.
>
>
>
>
> k30a
> yearly brother website posting
> http://www.30acreimaging.com/
>

[Nedra]

Oh Yes!! I'd forgotten the excitement of the first pubic
appearance - it was at the school auditoruim... and people
really did pay to hear them! Dave was the vocalist - did
all the Mason Williams songs so well - I think "2525"
was my favorite. And their theme song was "Proud Mary"!
I had friends call me on the phone just to hear them play that
song Live! But what year was that? I'm stuck in the late
60's - early 70s. The boys babysitter was in Nam (a guy
of course) ... I went over for a year in '69. Humm
I'm at a loss as to when the guys were 'popular' ... lol

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"K30a" > wrote in message
...
> Nedra wrote >>I am re-living my sons teen years thru your postings.<<
>
> I find it fascinating how they work, writing songs and lyrics (which don't
> always make sense unless you speak teenage-ese...) and also how good their
> music is (though is it a good thing a 'mom' likes your stuff?)
>
> I am also amazed at how much they can eat!
>
> This Friday is their first public concert. People have to spend money to
see
> them! They've put out a demo CD and *talk* about going on tour next
summer.
> Baby brother is working on a website for them so I'll post it when it gets
> done.
>
> k30a
> yearly brother website posting
> http://www.30acreimaging.com/
>

[K30a]

The boys are playing in a bar (!!!)
and they are 16 to 18.
But it is 'closed' to drinking and is
an all age concert.
They are basically an alternative rock band.
They played punk versions of Summertime and
Phantom of the Opera this spring for school.
They play all sorts of stuff but they love
the classics from the late 60s. The only
thing they won't even consider - disco!




k30a
yearly brother website posting
http://www.30acreimaging.com/

[zookeeper]

BenignVanilla wrote:

> Culligan in Elkridge has 40lb bags of pellets for $12.75. They are at 7391
> Washington Blvd (Rt. 1), (410) 379-5319. They have it in stock, and are open
> weekdays 8-5, 9-3 on Sat. The question now, is can I use pellets?

Culligan here offered to deliver supplies. Maybe ask if they will be in
your area later this week? Even if it added a couple dollars to your
total, it might be worth the time you save trying to track it down
elsewhere. (I paid $10 for a 40lb bag -- they said they have to charge
something for the bag, but that the bags have been sitting there for a
year or more. We have veerrry soft water here, so probably not much need
for softening agents.)
--
zookeeper

[K30a]

Nedra wrote >>Their name was "Underground Fire" <<

This group has been through several names. Right now they are Manic Mantra. Not
sure what that means exactly, but that's not the point anyway...
;-)
k30a
yearly brother website posting
http://www.30acreimaging.com/

[BenignVanilla]

"johnrutz" > wrote in message
...
<snip>
> BV did you reverse the flow in your pond or are you still gravity
> feeding your VF?
>
> Im pumping from the fish off the bottom to the VF, and the plants are
> doing reasonably well considering the 100+ temps we get all the
> dietrus is building up in the plant roots and feeding em that way
<snip>

4'' BD is plumbed to the VF. The pump sits in the VF and forces water to the
pond, which then responds by gravity feeding the VF. This may all change
Sunday. Since I have much liner showing the VF, I plan to sandbag part of
it, and then pump water from lower VF up to higher VF, and let it then
gravity feed back to the main pond. This will hide some liner, and add some
interest.

My VF plants have a root system so dense, I can't pass my hand through the
VF water. I need to move some frogbit out, and find the GF that got sucked
in through the BD. He must be having trouble swimming.

The frogs love the VF. They're making all kinds of noise now.

BV.

[BenignVanilla]

"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
et...
> BV,
>
> If you have not been feeding those fish, what have you been waiting for???
> As you start to feed, the fish will generate more ammonia, so keep an eye
on
> it and let it control the feeding rate. Enjoy the pleasure of feeding the
> fish.
> --
<snip>

Not sure...I had intended to feed, but then worried that my design, which
includes many shallows, might attract predators...The fish have been fending
well on algae and skeeters. I am going to try some feeding this week for
fun.

BV.

[BenignVanilla]

"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
et...
> BV,
>
> The fertilizer stakes like tree spikes, tomato spikes, or the pond version
> PondTabbs can be inserted into the clay in the pots and will really perk
up
> the soil planted plants. I don't know how you will get them into the
lotus,
> with all that water over your head, but the lotus and lilies will pay you
> well for feeding them.
<snip>

Sunday, I need to dive to finally install my diffuser, so I guess I'll spike
the Lotus then.

BV.

[BenignVanilla]

"Andrew Burgess" > wrote in message
...
> "BenignVanilla" > writes:
>
> >So do you think I could crush the pellets? Or just toss a few in and let
> >them dissolve in the VF?
>
> I just toss them in the filter. When I used them in the aquarium I tossed
them
> in the tank. Some koi took an interest, tastes salty I guess...

My web access is closely tracked here, so I can't google...anyone care to
humor me with a dosage amount?

BV.

[john rutz]

BenignVanilla wrote:
> "johnrutz" > wrote in message
> ...
> <snip>
>
>>-- yes it is as its diluted so much just watch your concentration,
>>i cant find how much is in a pkg ( i have the 7.5 lb box ) but im using
>>1 pkg for 5000 gallons
>
> <snip>
>
> I'll have to check my packet sizes. I am at about 3000 gallons based on an
> early estimate. Do you think I can combine this with my Potash dosing, or
> should I hold off?
>
> BV.
>
>

shure i do both go with the potash first tho and see if that is the
problem ( usualy is )
--





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

[john rutz]

BenignVanilla wrote:
> "Andrew Burgess" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>"BenignVanilla" > writes:
>>
>>
>>>So do you think I could crush the pellets? Or just toss a few in and let
>>>them dissolve in the VF?
>>
>>I just toss them in the filter. When I used them in the aquarium I tossed
>
> them
>
>>in the tank. Some koi took an interest, tastes salty I guess...
>
>
> My web access is closely tracked here, so I can't google...anyone care to
> humor me with a dosage amount?
>
> BV.
>
>

sure BV 1 oz per 1000 gallons a litle extra will not hurt

my pellets are aprox 1" pillow shaped and I have dumped in half+ a 44 oz
7-11 cup full at one time
--





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

[Andrew Burgess]

"BenignVanilla" > writes:

>"Andrew Burgess" > wrote in message
...
>> "BenignVanilla" > writes:
>>
>> >So do you think I could crush the pellets? Or just toss a few in and let
>> >them dissolve in the VF?
>>
>> I just toss them in the filter. When I used them in the aquarium I tossed
>them
>> in the tank. Some koi took an interest, tastes salty I guess...

>My web access is closely tracked here, so I can't google...anyone care to
>humor me with a dosage amount?

I use a handful every ten days or so, maybe 1/4 cup. I do have an
automatic water changer, 24gal/day. About 1000 gal pond.