Overstocking My Plants

[BenignVanilla]

OK, another thread led to this one. As you may well know, my pond has no
filtration other then a VF. My main pond is also heavily planted. The VF
right now is nearly solid, with roots. I have noticed some plants (most
plants) not being as green as they were, and some are down right yellow. I
am now looking to raise the nutrients to help this.

So I ask...is it possible, contrary to popular belief, to overstock with
plants and filter nutrients out faster then the fish can produce them?

--
BenignVanilla
Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond

[Sam Hopkins]

Yes it is possible to overstock plants. This is what plagues people who
raise plants in aquariums.


"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> OK, another thread led to this one. As you may well know, my pond has no
> filtration other then a VF. My main pond is also heavily planted. The VF
> right now is nearly solid, with roots. I have noticed some plants (most
> plants) not being as green as they were, and some are down right yellow. I
> am now looking to raise the nutrients to help this.
>
> So I ask...is it possible, contrary to popular belief, to overstock with
> plants and filter nutrients out faster then the fish can produce them?
>
> --
> BenignVanilla
> Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
>
>
>

[BenignVanilla]

"Sam Hopkins" > wrote in message
.. .
> Yes it is possible to overstock plants. This is what plagues people who
> raise plants in aquariums.
>
<snip>

I never thought I could do it, but it appears I have done it. Time to
throttle back some plants. Maybe move some frogbit to my aquarium, and some
to Wilson, when I get a spare moment. Sorry Wilson, life keeps getting in
the way of living.

BV.

[zookeeper]

BenignVanilla wrote:
> ...
> So I ask...is it possible, contrary to popular belief, to overstock with
> plants and filter nutrients out faster then the fish can produce them?

BV, maybe the plants need orange water in order to survive? Some iron in
the clay that's now missing from their diet?
--
zookeeper

[BenignVanilla]

"zookeeper" > wrote in message
...
> BenignVanilla wrote:
> > ...
> > So I ask...is it possible, contrary to popular belief, to overstock with
> > plants and filter nutrients out faster then the fish can produce them?
>
> BV, maybe the plants need orange water in order to survive? Some iron in
> the clay that's now missing from their diet?
> --
> zookeeper

You are just LOVING my orange problem aren't you? *laugh* You better watch
yourself, or I'll put that Rosie Red Minnow hex on you, like I almost did to
Nedra.

BV.

[Nedra]

huh? What did I do? Why sweet little ol' me?
BV, you surprise me....

Nedra

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> "zookeeper" > wrote in message
> ...
> > BenignVanilla wrote:
> > > ...
> > > So I ask...is it possible, contrary to popular belief, to overstock
with
> > > plants and filter nutrients out faster then the fish can produce them?
> >
> > BV, maybe the plants need orange water in order to survive? Some iron in
> > the clay that's now missing from their diet?
> > --
> > zookeeper
>
> You are just LOVING my orange problem aren't you? *laugh* You better watch
> yourself, or I'll put that Rosie Red Minnow hex on you, like I almost did
to
> Nedra.
>
> BV.
>
>
>

[BenignVanilla]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
arthlink.net...
> huh? What did I do? Why sweet little ol' me?
> BV, you surprise me....
<snip>

Aww come on, you don't remember my voodoo curse from a few months back? I
lifted it before it took effect, remember?

BV.

[Nedra]

Uhhhh ... let's see? Voodoo curse - does sound vaguely
familiar! LOLoLOL!!

I'm a basket case, BV.... totalled. I thought I had a good
memory but this one escapes me.............

Nedra

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> arthlink.net...
> > huh? What did I do? Why sweet little ol' me?
> > BV, you surprise me....
> <snip>
>
> Aww come on, you don't remember my voodoo curse from a few months back? I
> lifted it before it took effect, remember?
>
> BV.
>
>
>

[Ted]

I have that problem as here in the deep south they get a head start in the
spring and are huge by this time of year. I pull some back but one of the
things I do is through one of thos elarge plant spikes for evergreens into
the water when I notice this and they green back up again in no time.

Lisa
http://community.webshots.com/user/ldziedzic2001

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> OK, another thread led to this one. As you may well know, my pond has no
> filtration other then a VF. My main pond is also heavily planted. The VF
> right now is nearly solid, with roots. I have noticed some plants (most
> plants) not being as green as they were, and some are down right yellow. I
> am now looking to raise the nutrients to help this.
>
> So I ask...is it possible, contrary to popular belief, to overstock with
> plants and filter nutrients out faster then the fish can produce them?
>
> --
> BenignVanilla
> Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
>
>
>

[zookeeper]

BenignVanilla wrote:
> "zookeeper" > wrote in message
> ...

>>BV, maybe the plants need orange water in order to survive? Some iron in
>>the clay that's now missing from their diet?
>
> You are just LOVING my orange problem aren't you? *laugh* You better watch
> yourself, or I'll put that Rosie Red Minnow hex on you, like I almost did to
> Nedra.

Well, sniff, it was actually, sniff, a serious question (note lack of
the usual wink icon), sniff.

I do enjoy your orange pond-water tales, if only because I have lots of
green, silty water at the moment. If I had a digital camera or a
scanner, I'd share so we all could laugh about my pea-soup pond. Hey, do
Rosie Red Minnow hexes cure green water?
--
zookeeper

[BenignVanilla]

"zookeeper" > wrote in message
...
> BenignVanilla wrote:
> > "zookeeper" > wrote in message
> > ...
>
> >>BV, maybe the plants need orange water in order to survive? Some iron in
> >>the clay that's now missing from their diet?
> >
> > You are just LOVING my orange problem aren't you? *laugh* You better
watch
> > yourself, or I'll put that Rosie Red Minnow hex on you, like I almost
did to
> > Nedra.
>
> Well, sniff, it was actually, sniff, a serious question (note lack of
> the usual wink icon), sniff.
>
> I do enjoy your orange pond-water tales, if only because I have lots of
> green, silty water at the moment. If I had a digital camera or a
> scanner, I'd share so we all could laugh about my pea-soup pond. Hey, do
> Rosie Red Minnow hexes cure green water?

Sorry, my bad. I am a bit over-sensitive about my orange water. *laugh*

BV.

[adavisus]

Yup, it sure is likely when ponds are heavily planted and liner ponds,
there's a definite limit to what plants can do. You are headed toward
the opposite of 'eutrophic' conditions, first obvious signs are water
lilies not forming buds and foliage yellowing.

Until you thin out the plants and supply effective fertility, the
plants will take advantage of the situation, the more invasive plants
will try to smother more delicate ones and mulch them...

the likes of mulch fluid, super phosphates, and typical tomato feed
should perk aquatics as much or as little as you like, however its
always a good idea to cut back the less interesting more invasive
plant varieties prior to winter, those which are likely to dump a lot
of dead foliage in the water

Regards, andy
http://www.members.aol.com/abdavisnc/swglist.html
(andys aquatic plant list for interesting swaps:)
http://community.webshots.com/user/adavisus
(photo albums of aquatic plants and descriptions)

> So I ask...is it possible, contrary to popular belief, to overstock with
> plants and filter nutrients out faster then the fish can produce them?