Re: sick fish - please help!

[LoaderLady]

What do the lumps look like? Perhaps like tiny grains of salt? What color?
under scales?

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"^^ Bex ^^" > wrote in message
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>
> I've just come home to find one on my goldfish has lumps on it's sides!
> What is it and what can I do to heal him? The lumps are quite pronounced.
>
> Please help!?
>
> Bex
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[Geezer From The Freezer]

as it has occured quickly (I assume), it could be a bacterial
infection.

Check out this website:
http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold/disease/symptom/symptom.htm#lump

[BErney1014]

>I've just come home to find one on my goldfish has lumps on it's sides!
>What is it and what can I do to heal him?

It's furunculosis, a bacterial infection. You will need antibiotics to feed to
the fish, it's inside the fish. I'd suggest Seachem kanacyn, a powder with a
small measuring spoon and instructions for mixing into food.
Good luck.

[BErney1014]

>Will my normal vet be able to help? I'm not sure they even treat fish.
> I
>live in the UK

You should be able to get help at the LFS. Aeromonas is the bacteria that
causes the condition, lots of meds available for it.

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6 years! Well, you must be doing something right! My fingers are crossed,
and I wish you the best of luck.

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"^^ Bex ^^" > wrote in message
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> On 21 Nov 2003 18:24:56 GMT, (BErney1014) wrote:
>
> >>Will my normal vet be able to help? I'm not sure they even treat fish.
> >> I
> >>live in the UK
> >
> >You should be able to get help at the LFS. Aeromonas is the bacteria that
> >causes the condition, lots of meds available for it.
>
> Have just been to my vet who said he hadn't seen it before (not many
people
> bring fish in to them) but thought it may either be bacterial or an
> infectious fungal condition that though unsightly may not be fatal. I
> mentioned what you said about furunculosis. He's given us an antibiotic
> liquid to put in the water (in cast it's bacterial) and made us seperate
> him from the other fish. It doesn't say what antibiotic it is on the
tube,
> but it was out of his book so I'm hopeful he knows what he's talking
about.
>
> Cross your fingers, 'George' is a much loved family pet who I've had for
> almost 6 years.
>
> Bex
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>
> Pray for that day when you'll leave behind the grey
> Pray for that day when your feet could walk on different soil
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furunculosis is a generic term meaning " A skin condition characterized by the
development of recurring boils". in fish this can be due to different bacteria.
in fish this is caused by Aeromonas salmonicida
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10364_10950-27389--,00.html
usually lumps are coming from the inside out, so need to feed the fish antibiotic
food for at least a month, and since it is aeromonas you can kill it by getting the
temp of the water up to 84oF for a few days. You MUST use good aeration tho.
Crank the temp up fast, but lower it slowly 4o per day.

you also need to keep the water pristine, changing water to keep nitrates 20 ppm or
lower. Ingrid
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^^ Bex ^^ > wrote:
>Have just been to my vet who said he hadn't seen it before (not many people
>bring fish in to them) but thought it may either be bacterial or an
>infectious fungal condition that though unsightly may not be fatal. I
>mentioned what you said about furunculosis. He's given us an antibiotic
>liquid to put in the water (in cast it's bacterial) and made us seperate
>him from the other fish. It doesn't say what antibiotic it is on the tube,
>but it was out of his book so I'm hopeful he knows what he's talking about.
>
>Cross your fingers, 'George' is a much loved family pet who I've had for
>almost 6 years.
>
>Bex
>__________________________________________________ __________________
>
> Pray for that day when you'll leave behind the grey
> Pray for that day when your feet could walk on different soil
>
> http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~bex
> @ update: 14/12/02 @



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no. in the water is good for open sores, if/when they open, but for these need
systemic antibiotics. you can soak GF food like pellets in the antibiotic and feed
that tho. Ingrid

^^ Bex ^^ > wrote:

>So antibiotics in the water will not help then?
>
>I will go and purchase a water heater and thermometer tomorrow morning.
>Will that just kill the bacteria present in the tank?
>
>Bex


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no, fish dont swallow water. they get the water they need from their normally very
wet food. as long as they are eating, they got a good chance of making it. Ingrid

^^ Bex ^^ > wrote:
>Good plan! I actually bought floating pellets yesterday anyway. I suppose
>he must take some in from the water (doesn't water go in to the stomach
>when they feed?). I shall try soaking pellets.
>
>The lumps have got smaller but the fish looks sad. He's coming up to the
>top to feed now, he wasn't yesterday.
>
>I hope he's not suffering, how can you tell with fish? I wouldn't want to
>prolong his life if he was in pain. He does seem better than yesterday
>though.
>
>Bex


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[BErney1014]

>So antibiotics in the water will not help then?

If you can find the name of the med he gave you it would answer questions.
Many antibiotics work in the water, they are absorbed into the skin or into the
blood via the gills.

[Geezer From The Freezer]

^^ Bex ^^ wrote:
> The good news is I did my aquarium tests and it came up great, no ammonia,
> no nitrite. PH is slightly low for Goldfish but I can put that right. At
> least I know the tank is healthy.


how about NitrAtes?