Lazy Bones Or Perhaps Un Detected Illness ??

[Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl]

Clear DayHi folks well my tank is doing nicely after 2 weeks my fishes are very happy I have a well established
real plant and 2 larger sized air stones inside tubing so they have many bubbles and just love it

But I am curious one of my Black Moor well as I have 2 it appears to be the same one often I find
it just sitting on the bottom of the tank

Not upside down on its side crooked or anything but just resting on its belly very upright and perfectly
straight with his top fin down slightly

The second time I noticed this I put it in my spare bowl alone for a few hours and it seemed to do fine swimming around looking active

I also checked carefully and it does not appear to be missing any body parts or have any kind of illness that I can see at all

This resting on the bottom as I call it last for some time and then it moves on I do not watch the tank all day so
I am not sure how long this rest period last for

I have noticed though on passing often that the same fish is in a different place and when I go near they including lazy bones all come over to the side thinking I am going to feed

Not only that but lazy bones eats well and often has energy bursts where there is much movement and activity
so what can you tell me about this behavior I am at a loss to explain it ?? Vikki

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[Mel]

Clear Day
Have you tested your water parameters (ammonia, nitrite and nitrate)? If not then you should as poor water quality should be the first thing you rule out.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi folks well my tank is doing nicely after 2 weeks my fishes are very happy I have a well established
real plant and 2 larger sized air stones inside tubing so they have many bubbles and just love it

But I am curious one of my Black Moor well as I have 2 it appears to be the same one often I find
it just sitting on the bottom of the tank

Not upside down on its side crooked or anything but just resting on its belly very upright and perfectly
straight with his top fin down slightly

The second time I noticed this I put it in my spare bowl alone for a few hours and it seemed to do fine swimming around looking active

I also checked carefully and it does not appear to be missing any body parts or have any kind of illness that I can see at all

This resting on the bottom as I call it last for some time and then it moves on I do not watch the tank all day so
I am not sure how long this rest period last for

I have noticed though on passing often that the same fish is in a different place and when I go near they including lazy bones all come over to the side thinking I am going to feed

Not only that but lazy bones eats well and often has energy bursts where there is much movement and activity
so what can you tell me about this behavior I am at a loss to explain it ?? Vikki

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[Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl]

Clear DayOk enlighten me and explain how exactly you do that perhaps I already am but in a different way
or perhaps I use different terms to describe it ?
"Mel" > wrote in message ...

But have you tested for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate? If not then it is impossible to tell how good your water quality is.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi Mel

My water condition is top quality I clean the tank once a week and use all of the correct treatments for it
I have also tested the ph and that to is fine

The treatments I have are Water Conditioning Salts / Water Ager / Pura Water { Liquid Natural Biological Cleaner }
and my ph test kit

I just added a new flexible air stone to you know the sort that looks like a hose and can bend any which way

Now I have that plus 2 round air stones one at each end of my under gravel filter which is also working fine

With the new hose like stone Lazybones suddenly found all those wonderful new bubbles and swam over

Next thing I see it had fanned the tail out and was swimming up and down like it was dancing in all the bubbles

I would say he or she but how do you sex a black moor ? any way since that stone was added 2 days back there
has been more sudden bursts of energy and swimming / dancing along all the bubbles

Named Lazybones because of all the suspicious sitting on the bottom like it was sleeping I still see that to at times
but as I don't sit and stare in the tank all day I can not be sure how long it has been sitting there

All my other fishes appear to be fine I have studied them carefully and can not detect any illness or change of anything
on their body nothing on Lazybones either they also eat well and what little I do give them all goes any ideas ?


"Mel" > wrote in message ...

Have you tested your water parameters (ammonia, nitrite and nitrate)? If not then you should as poor water quality should be the first thing you rule out.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi folks well my tank is doing nicely after 2 weeks my fishes are very happy I have a well established
real plant and 2 larger sized air stones inside tubing so they have many bubbles and just love it

But I am curious one of my Black Moor well as I have 2 it appears to be the same one often I find
it just sitting on the bottom of the tank

Not upside down on its side crooked or anything but just resting on its belly very upright and perfectly
straight with his top fin down slightly

The second time I noticed this I put it in my spare bowl alone for a few hours and it seemed to do fine swimming around looking active

I also checked carefully and it does not appear to be missing any body parts or have any kind of illness that I can see at all

This resting on the bottom as I call it last for some time and then it moves on I do not watch the tank all day so
I am not sure how long this rest period last for

I have noticed though on passing often that the same fish is in a different place and when I go near they including lazy bones all come over to the side thinking I am going to feed

Not only that but lazy bones eats well and often has energy bursts where there is much movement and activity
so what can you tell me about this behavior I am at a loss to explain it ?? Vikki

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[Mel]

Clear Day
You buy test kits for each (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate), much like your ph test I expect. They come in different forms, but mine includes test tubes which you put a sample of your water in, then add a few drops from the test solution and wait for it to change colour so that you can determine the result. They aren't very expensive and without them there is absolutely no way that you know how good your water really is. Also, almost all illnesses/strange behaviour in fish originate from poor water quality, i.e high ammonia, nitrite and nitrates.
Basically goldfish excrete waste which rots and turns into ammonia which is toxic to fish. This ammonia is then turned into nitrite by bacteria in your tank and filter. Nitrite too is extremely toxic to your fish. The bacteria then turn the nitrite into nitrate which is ok in small amounts but shouldn't be let to get too high.

If you really can't buy these kits yourself, then most good aquatic stores will test a sample of your water for you either for free or for a small fee. If you go down this route, take a pen and paper and record the results yourself. Don't just take their word thatit's ok or not ok as their information isn't always right. Post the results here and we can help you out :O)
When problems with fish arise, testing the water parameters should be the very first thing you do as these problems are usually indicative of a problem of some kind with the water.
Mel.



"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Ok enlighten me and explain how exactly you do that perhaps I already am but in a different way
or perhaps I use different terms to describe it ?
"Mel" > wrote in message ...

But have you tested for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate? If not then it is impossible to tell how good your water quality is.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi Mel

My water condition is top quality I clean the tank once a week and use all of the correct treatments for it
I have also tested the ph and that to is fine

The treatments I have are Water Conditioning Salts / Water Ager / Pura Water { Liquid Natural Biological Cleaner }
and my ph test kit

I just added a new flexible air stone to you know the sort that looks like a hose and can bend any which way

Now I have that plus 2 round air stones one at each end of my under gravel filter which is also working fine

With the new hose like stone Lazybones suddenly found all those wonderful new bubbles and swam over

Next thing I see it had fanned the tail out and was swimming up and down like it was dancing in all the bubbles

I would say he or she but how do you sex a black moor ? any way since that stone was added 2 days back there
has been more sudden bursts of energy and swimming / dancing along all the bubbles

Named Lazybones because of all the suspicious sitting on the bottom like it was sleeping I still see that to at times
but as I don't sit and stare in the tank all day I can not be sure how long it has been sitting there

All my other fishes appear to be fine I have studied them carefully and can not detect any illness or change of anything
on their body nothing on Lazybones either they also eat well and what little I do give them all goes any ideas ?


"Mel" > wrote in message ...

Have you tested your water parameters (ammonia, nitrite and nitrate)? If not then you should as poor water quality should be the first thing you rule out.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi folks well my tank is doing nicely after 2 weeks my fishes are very happy I have a well established
real plant and 2 larger sized air stones inside tubing so they have many bubbles and just love it

But I am curious one of my Black Moor well as I have 2 it appears to be the same one often I find
it just sitting on the bottom of the tank

Not upside down on its side crooked or anything but just resting on its belly very upright and perfectly
straight with his top fin down slightly

The second time I noticed this I put it in my spare bowl alone for a few hours and it seemed to do fine swimming around looking active

I also checked carefully and it does not appear to be missing any body parts or have any kind of illness that I can see at all

This resting on the bottom as I call it last for some time and then it moves on I do not watch the tank all day so
I am not sure how long this rest period last for

I have noticed though on passing often that the same fish is in a different place and when I go near they including lazy bones all come over to the side thinking I am going to feed

Not only that but lazy bones eats well and often has energy bursts where there is much movement and activity
so what can you tell me about this behavior I am at a loss to explain it ?? Vikki

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[Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl]

Clear DayMel do you mean a small tube with a line marker on it and you fill it with tank water to the line
then add so many drops of a liquid shake and wait for the color to change

The color that appears after you add this liquid determines how healthy your water is ?
"Mel" > wrote in message ...

You buy test kits for each (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate), much like your ph test I expect. They come in different forms, but mine includes test tubes which you put a sample of your water in, then add a few drops from the test solution and wait for it to change colour so that you can determine the result. They aren't very expensive and without them there is absolutely no way that you know how good your water really is. Also, almost all illnesses/strange behaviour in fish originate from poor water quality, i.e high ammonia, nitrite and nitrates.
Basically goldfish excrete waste which rots and turns into ammonia which is toxic to fish. This ammonia is then turned into nitrite by bacteria in your tank and filter. Nitrite too is extremely toxic to your fish. The bacteria then turn the nitrite into nitrate which is ok in small amounts but shouldn't be let to get too high.

If you really can't buy these kits yourself, then most good aquatic stores will test a sample of your water for you either for free or for a small fee. If you go down this route, take a pen and paper and record the results yourself. Don't just take their word thatit's ok or not ok as their information isn't always right. Post the results here and we can help you out :O)
When problems with fish arise, testing the water parameters should be the very first thing you do as these problems are usually indicative of a problem of some kind with the water.
Mel.



"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Ok enlighten me and explain how exactly you do that perhaps I already am but in a different way
or perhaps I use different terms to describe it ?
"Mel" > wrote in message ...

But have you tested for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate? If not then it is impossible to tell how good your water quality is.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi Mel

My water condition is top quality I clean the tank once a week and use all of the correct treatments for it
I have also tested the ph and that to is fine

The treatments I have are Water Conditioning Salts / Water Ager / Pura Water { Liquid Natural Biological Cleaner }
and my ph test kit

I just added a new flexible air stone to you know the sort that looks like a hose and can bend any which way

Now I have that plus 2 round air stones one at each end of my under gravel filter which is also working fine

With the new hose like stone Lazybones suddenly found all those wonderful new bubbles and swam over

Next thing I see it had fanned the tail out and was swimming up and down like it was dancing in all the bubbles

I would say he or she but how do you sex a black moor ? any way since that stone was added 2 days back there
has been more sudden bursts of energy and swimming / dancing along all the bubbles

Named Lazybones because of all the suspicious sitting on the bottom like it was sleeping I still see that to at times
but as I don't sit and stare in the tank all day I can not be sure how long it has been sitting there

All my other fishes appear to be fine I have studied them carefully and can not detect any illness or change of anything
on their body nothing on Lazybones either they also eat well and what little I do give them all goes any ideas ?


"Mel" > wrote in message ...

Have you tested your water parameters (ammonia, nitrite and nitrate)? If not then you should as poor water quality should be the first thing you rule out.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi folks well my tank is doing nicely after 2 weeks my fishes are very happy I have a well established
real plant and 2 larger sized air stones inside tubing so they have many bubbles and just love it

But I am curious one of my Black Moor well as I have 2 it appears to be the same one often I find
it just sitting on the bottom of the tank

Not upside down on its side crooked or anything but just resting on its belly very upright and perfectly
straight with his top fin down slightly

The second time I noticed this I put it in my spare bowl alone for a few hours and it seemed to do fine swimming around looking active

I also checked carefully and it does not appear to be missing any body parts or have any kind of illness that I can see at all

This resting on the bottom as I call it last for some time and then it moves on I do not watch the tank all day so
I am not sure how long this rest period last for

I have noticed though on passing often that the same fish is in a different place and when I go near they including lazy bones all come over to the side thinking I am going to feed

Not only that but lazy bones eats well and often has energy bursts where there is much movement and activity
so what can you tell me about this behavior I am at a loss to explain it ?? Vikki

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[Mel]

Clear Day
Yes that's right. You compare the colour to a little chart that comes with the kit. You need seperate ones for the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Mel do you mean a small tube with a line marker on it and you fill it with tank water to the line
then add so many drops of a liquid shake and wait for the color to change

The color that appears after you add this liquid determines how healthy your water is ?
"Mel" > wrote in message ...

You buy test kits for each (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate), much like your ph test I expect. They come in different forms, but mine includes test tubes which you put a sample of your water in, then add a few drops from the test solution and wait for it to change colour so that you can determine the result. They aren't very expensive and without them there is absolutely no way that you know how good your water really is. Also, almost all illnesses/strange behaviour in fish originate from poor water quality, i.e high ammonia, nitrite and nitrates.
Basically goldfish excrete waste which rots and turns into ammonia which is toxic to fish. This ammonia is then turned into nitrite by bacteria in your tank and filter. Nitrite too is extremely toxic to your fish. The bacteria then turn the nitrite into nitrate which is ok in small amounts but shouldn't be let to get too high.

If you really can't buy these kits yourself, then most good aquatic stores will test a sample of your water for you either for free or for a small fee. If you go down this route, take a pen and paper and record the results yourself. Don't just take their word thatit's ok or not ok as their information isn't always right. Post the results here and we can help you out :O)
When problems with fish arise, testing the water parameters should be the very first thing you do as these problems are usually indicative of a problem of some kind with the water.
Mel.



"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Ok enlighten me and explain how exactly you do that perhaps I already am but in a different way
or perhaps I use different terms to describe it ?
"Mel" > wrote in message ...

But have you tested for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate? If not then it is impossible to tell how good your water quality is.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi Mel

My water condition is top quality I clean the tank once a week and use all of the correct treatments for it
I have also tested the ph and that to is fine

The treatments I have are Water Conditioning Salts / Water Ager / Pura Water { Liquid Natural Biological Cleaner }
and my ph test kit

I just added a new flexible air stone to you know the sort that looks like a hose and can bend any which way

Now I have that plus 2 round air stones one at each end of my under gravel filter which is also working fine

With the new hose like stone Lazybones suddenly found all those wonderful new bubbles and swam over

Next thing I see it had fanned the tail out and was swimming up and down like it was dancing in all the bubbles

I would say he or she but how do you sex a black moor ? any way since that stone was added 2 days back there
has been more sudden bursts of energy and swimming / dancing along all the bubbles

Named Lazybones because of all the suspicious sitting on the bottom like it was sleeping I still see that to at times
but as I don't sit and stare in the tank all day I can not be sure how long it has been sitting there

All my other fishes appear to be fine I have studied them carefully and can not detect any illness or change of anything
on their body nothing on Lazybones either they also eat well and what little I do give them all goes any ideas ?


"Mel" > wrote in message ...

Have you tested your water parameters (ammonia, nitrite and nitrate)? If not then you should as poor water quality should be the first thing you rule out.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi folks well my tank is doing nicely after 2 weeks my fishes are very happy I have a well established
real plant and 2 larger sized air stones inside tubing so they have many bubbles and just love it

But I am curious one of my Black Moor well as I have 2 it appears to be the same one often I find
it just sitting on the bottom of the tank

Not upside down on its side crooked or anything but just resting on its belly very upright and perfectly
straight with his top fin down slightly

The second time I noticed this I put it in my spare bowl alone for a few hours and it seemed to do fine swimming around looking active

I also checked carefully and it does not appear to be missing any body parts or have any kind of illness that I can see at all

This resting on the bottom as I call it last for some time and then it moves on I do not watch the tank all day so
I am not sure how long this rest period last for

I have noticed though on passing often that the same fish is in a different place and when I go near they including lazy bones all come over to the side thinking I am going to feed

Not only that but lazy bones eats well and often has energy bursts where there is much movement and activity
so what can you tell me about this behavior I am at a loss to explain it ?? Vikki

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[Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl]

Clear DayHuzzah that's all in my ph test kit I tested it last night and it is fine I live in Australia where do you live isn't it funny
how we were talking about the exact same thing and didn't know because we used different terms
"Mel" > wrote in message ...

Yes that's right. You compare the colour to a little chart that comes with the kit. You need seperate ones for the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Mel do you mean a small tube with a line marker on it and you fill it with tank water to the line
then add so many drops of a liquid shake and wait for the color to change

The color that appears after you add this liquid determines how healthy your water is ?
"Mel" > wrote in message ...

You buy test kits for each (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate), much like your ph test I expect. They come in different forms, but mine includes test tubes which you put a sample of your water in, then add a few drops from the test solution and wait for it to change colour so that you can determine the result. They aren't very expensive and without them there is absolutely no way that you know how good your water really is. Also, almost all illnesses/strange behaviour in fish originate from poor water quality, i.e high ammonia, nitrite and nitrates.
Basically goldfish excrete waste which rots and turns into ammonia which is toxic to fish. This ammonia is then turned into nitrite by bacteria in your tank and filter. Nitrite too is extremely toxic to your fish. The bacteria then turn the nitrite into nitrate which is ok in small amounts but shouldn't be let to get too high.

If you really can't buy these kits yourself, then most good aquatic stores will test a sample of your water for you either for free or for a small fee. If you go down this route, take a pen and paper and record the results yourself. Don't just take their word thatit's ok or not ok as their information isn't always right. Post the results here and we can help you out :O)
When problems with fish arise, testing the water parameters should be the very first thing you do as these problems are usually indicative of a problem of some kind with the water.
Mel.



"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Ok enlighten me and explain how exactly you do that perhaps I already am but in a different way
or perhaps I use different terms to describe it ?
"Mel" > wrote in message ...

But have you tested for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate? If not then it is impossible to tell how good your water quality is.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi Mel

My water condition is top quality I clean the tank once a week and use all of the correct treatments for it
I have also tested the ph and that to is fine

The treatments I have are Water Conditioning Salts / Water Ager / Pura Water { Liquid Natural Biological Cleaner }
and my ph test kit

I just added a new flexible air stone to you know the sort that looks like a hose and can bend any which way

Now I have that plus 2 round air stones one at each end of my under gravel filter which is also working fine

With the new hose like stone Lazybones suddenly found all those wonderful new bubbles and swam over

Next thing I see it had fanned the tail out and was swimming up and down like it was dancing in all the bubbles

I would say he or she but how do you sex a black moor ? any way since that stone was added 2 days back there
has been more sudden bursts of energy and swimming / dancing along all the bubbles

Named Lazybones because of all the suspicious sitting on the bottom like it was sleeping I still see that to at times
but as I don't sit and stare in the tank all day I can not be sure how long it has been sitting there

All my other fishes appear to be fine I have studied them carefully and can not detect any illness or change of anything
on their body nothing on Lazybones either they also eat well and what little I do give them all goes any ideas ?


"Mel" > wrote in message ...

Have you tested your water parameters (ammonia, nitrite and nitrate)? If not then you should as poor water quality should be the first thing you rule out.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi folks well my tank is doing nicely after 2 weeks my fishes are very happy I have a well established
real plant and 2 larger sized air stones inside tubing so they have many bubbles and just love it

But I am curious one of my Black Moor well as I have 2 it appears to be the same one often I find
it just sitting on the bottom of the tank

Not upside down on its side crooked or anything but just resting on its belly very upright and perfectly
straight with his top fin down slightly

The second time I noticed this I put it in my spare bowl alone for a few hours and it seemed to do fine swimming around looking active

I also checked carefully and it does not appear to be missing any body parts or have any kind of illness that I can see at all

This resting on the bottom as I call it last for some time and then it moves on I do not watch the tank all day so
I am not sure how long this rest period last for

I have noticed though on passing often that the same fish is in a different place and when I go near they including lazy bones all come over to the side thinking I am going to feed

Not only that but lazy bones eats well and often has energy bursts where there is much movement and activity
so what can you tell me about this behavior I am at a loss to explain it ?? Vikki

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[Mel]

Clear Day
They don't usually come all together. Does it state on the box that it's testing for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate? If it does then it will say somewhere. They wouldn't be known as anything different as they are chemical compounds. I suppose there is a chance that your kit tests all 4 but there would be seperate charts for each thing (PH, nitrite, ammonia, nitrate, possibly GH and KH too) so that you could know the readings for each. They would all also come up as different colours.
Anyway, ammonia should be at 0, nitrite at 0 and nitrites under 20.
Mel.



"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Huzzah that's all in my ph test kit I tested it last night and it is fine I live in Australia where do you live isn't it funny
how we were talking about the exact same thing and didn't know because we used different terms
"Mel" > wrote in message ...

Yes that's right. You compare the colour to a little chart that comes with the kit. You need seperate ones for the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Mel do you mean a small tube with a line marker on it and you fill it with tank water to the line
then add so many drops of a liquid shake and wait for the color to change

The color that appears after you add this liquid determines how healthy your water is ?
"Mel" > wrote in message ...

You buy test kits for each (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate), much like your ph test I expect. They come in different forms, but mine includes test tubes which you put a sample of your water in, then add a few drops from the test solution and wait for it to change colour so that you can determine the result. They aren't very expensive and without them there is absolutely no way that you know how good your water really is. Also, almost all illnesses/strange behaviour in fish originate from poor water quality, i.e high ammonia, nitrite and nitrates.
Basically goldfish excrete waste which rots and turns into ammonia which is toxic to fish. This ammonia is then turned into nitrite by bacteria in your tank and filter. Nitrite too is extremely toxic to your fish. The bacteria then turn the nitrite into nitrate which is ok in small amounts but shouldn't be let to get too high.

If you really can't buy these kits yourself, then most good aquatic stores will test a sample of your water for you either for free or for a small fee. If you go down this route, take a pen and paper and record the results yourself. Don't just take their word thatit's ok or not ok as their information isn't always right. Post the results here and we can help you out :O)
When problems with fish arise, testing the water parameters should be the very first thing you do as these problems are usually indicative of a problem of some kind with the water.
Mel.



"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Ok enlighten me and explain how exactly you do that perhaps I already am but in a different way
or perhaps I use different terms to describe it ?
"Mel" > wrote in message ...

But have you tested for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate? If not then it is impossible to tell how good your water quality is.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi Mel

My water condition is top quality I clean the tank once a week and use all of the correct treatments for it
I have also tested the ph and that to is fine

The treatments I have are Water Conditioning Salts / Water Ager / Pura Water { Liquid Natural Biological Cleaner }
and my ph test kit

I just added a new flexible air stone to you know the sort that looks like a hose and can bend any which way

Now I have that plus 2 round air stones one at each end of my under gravel filter which is also working fine

With the new hose like stone Lazybones suddenly found all those wonderful new bubbles and swam over

Next thing I see it had fanned the tail out and was swimming up and down like it was dancing in all the bubbles

I would say he or she but how do you sex a black moor ? any way since that stone was added 2 days back there
has been more sudden bursts of energy and swimming / dancing along all the bubbles

Named Lazybones because of all the suspicious sitting on the bottom like it was sleeping I still see that to at times
but as I don't sit and stare in the tank all day I can not be sure how long it has been sitting there

All my other fishes appear to be fine I have studied them carefully and can not detect any illness or change of anything
on their body nothing on Lazybones either they also eat well and what little I do give them all goes any ideas ?


"Mel" > wrote in message ...

Have you tested your water parameters (ammonia, nitrite and nitrate)? If not then you should as poor water quality should be the first thing you rule out.
Mel.


"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" > wrote in message ...
Hi folks well my tank is doing nicely after 2 weeks my fishes are very happy I have a well established
real plant and 2 larger sized air stones inside tubing so they have many bubbles and just love it

But I am curious one of my Black Moor well as I have 2 it appears to be the same one often I find
it just sitting on the bottom of the tank

Not upside down on its side crooked or anything but just resting on its belly very upright and perfectly
straight with his top fin down slightly

The second time I noticed this I put it in my spare bowl alone for a few hours and it seemed to do fine swimming around looking active

I also checked carefully and it does not appear to be missing any body parts or have any kind of illness that I can see at all

This resting on the bottom as I call it last for some time and then it moves on I do not watch the tank all day so
I am not sure how long this rest period last for

I have noticed though on passing often that the same fish is in a different place and when I go near they including lazy bones all come over to the side thinking I am going to feed

Not only that but lazy bones eats well and often has energy bursts where there is much movement and activity
so what can you tell me about this behavior I am at a loss to explain it ?? Vikki

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