Fantail losing color

[BigDD]

I bought a fantail about 2 months ago because of its coloring, nice
orange with a great black stripe on it's back, black tail and touches of
gold/yellow on it's belly. I noticed 3 days ago that the black is
alomost completely gone form it's back and very faded in it's tail. Can
anyone tell me why. None of the other 5 fantails in the tank have
changed color and they are all about the same size, approximateyt 1 -
1.5 inches long.

Thanks,
BigDD

[Mel]

Black is one of the most unstable colours in fish and a lot of them do tend
to lose it as they get older so there's nothing to worry about.
The black, if not natural colouration could also have been healing ammonia
burns from previous bad water quality and could have just got better since
she's moved in with you.
Mel.


"BigDD" > wrote in message
...
> I bought a fantail about 2 months ago because of its coloring, nice
> orange with a great black stripe on it's back, black tail and touches of
> gold/yellow on it's belly. I noticed 3 days ago that the black is
> alomost completely gone form it's back and very faded in it's tail. Can
> anyone tell me why. None of the other 5 fantails in the tank have
> changed color and they are all about the same size, approximateyt 1 -
> 1.5 inches long.
>
> Thanks,
> BigDD
>

[LoaderLady]

I have an Oranda doing the exact same thing, and I think he was once all
black but is turning orange. Now there is only a little black left on his
back and a few markings on the tail fin but that's all. It is a natural
thing, I guess. I also just got 2 black moors, and I expect them to turn
color. I bought the ones with the least amount of gold on their belly, but
I don't think the black will stay. We'll see. I guess we have to spend
more money on them if we want quality :-)

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"BigDD" > wrote in message
...
> I bought a fantail about 2 months ago because of its coloring, nice
> orange with a great black stripe on it's back, black tail and touches of
> gold/yellow on it's belly. I noticed 3 days ago that the black is
> alomost completely gone form it's back and very faded in it's tail. Can
> anyone tell me why. None of the other 5 fantails in the tank have
> changed color and they are all about the same size, approximateyt 1 -
> 1.5 inches long.
>
> Thanks,
> BigDD
>

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moors are by definition telescope eyed and do not have genes for color. they should
stay black. if, however, somebody is selling young telescopes, they will change
color. Ingrid

"LoaderLady" > wrote:

>I have an Oranda doing the exact same thing, and I think he was once all
>black but is turning orange. Now there is only a little black left on his
>back and a few markings on the tail fin but that's all. It is a natural
>thing, I guess. I also just got 2 black moors, and I expect them to turn
>color. I bought the ones with the least amount of gold on their belly, but
>I don't think the black will stay. We'll see. I guess we have to spend
>more money on them if we want quality :-)



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[LoaderLady]

That's what I meant by spending money on them. I got these 2 at Petsmart,
and they do sell them as moors. I know it's not the proper definition, and
so do you, but most of the public doesn't, so they get away with it, I
guess. It's like selling "Peekapoo's" and "Cockapoo's" as purebred, when
they're obviously NOT! (as a former dog breeder, that drives me nuts!).

I have heard that true black moors are hard to find since they're actually,
as you said, telescopes without color yet. Black or orange, my pets will
still be pretty. ARE there any true black moors around? Even black
Oranda's and other varieties eventually change color, so I hear. I like the
blacks, but, like most people, I'd prefer they stay the color I purchased.
I guess that's the fun of fish - what you see isn't always what you get!
:-)

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> wrote in message
...
> moors are by definition telescope eyed and do not have genes for color.
they should
> stay black. if, however, somebody is selling young telescopes, they will
change
> color. Ingrid
>
> "LoaderLady" > wrote:
>
> >I have an Oranda doing the exact same thing, and I think he was once all
> >black but is turning orange. Now there is only a little black left on
his
> >back and a few markings on the tail fin but that's all. It is a natural
> >thing, I guess. I also just got 2 black moors, and I expect them to turn
> >color. I bought the ones with the least amount of gold on their belly,
but
> >I don't think the black will stay. We'll see. I guess we have to spend
> >more money on them if we want quality :-)
>
>
>
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> www.drsolo.com
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yes, there are true moors. look for larger moors with a bronze tinge under the matt
black. they are torpedo shaped and have long fins, especially the tail and anal
fins. moors are raised in the US, so if they come from China, they are probably
silver have a high back and will decolorize. Ingrid

"LoaderLady" > wrote:

>That's what I meant by spending money on them. I got these 2 at Petsmart,
>and they do sell them as moors. I know it's not the proper definition, and
>so do you, but most of the public doesn't, so they get away with it, I
>guess. It's like selling "Peekapoo's" and "Cockapoo's" as purebred, when
>they're obviously NOT! (as a former dog breeder, that drives me nuts!).
>
>I have heard that true black moors are hard to find since they're actually,
>as you said, telescopes without color yet. Black or orange, my pets will
>still be pretty. ARE there any true black moors around? Even black
>Oranda's and other varieties eventually change color, so I hear. I like the
>blacks, but, like most people, I'd prefer they stay the color I purchased.
>I guess that's the fun of fish - what you see isn't always what you get!
>:-)



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[Azul]

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:37:55 -0500, "LoaderLady"
> wrote:

>That's what I meant by spending money on them. I got these 2 at Petsmart,
>and they do sell them as moors. I know it's not the proper definition, and
>so do you, but most of the public doesn't, so they get away with it, I
>guess. It's like selling "Peekapoo's" and "Cockapoo's" as purebred, when
>they're obviously NOT! (as a former dog breeder, that drives me nuts!).
>
>I have heard that true black moors are hard to find since they're actually,
>as you said, telescopes without color yet. Black or orange, my pets will
>still be pretty. ARE there any true black moors around? Even black
>Oranda's and other varieties eventually change color, so I hear. I like the
>blacks, but, like most people, I'd prefer they stay the color I purchased.
>I guess that's the fun of fish - what you see isn't always what you get!
>:-)
If you buy older fish they are more likely to keep their color. I do
have a moor, but I got him when he was already a good two inches long
and had a black stomach. He has never even looked like he wants to
change color.

The panda I had started to change color after I had had him for about
6 months. But he was only about an inch when I bought him and had a
very white belly.

Pictures of him changing color are available on my web site.

http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/index.html


Azul

[LoaderLady]

The ones I just got are about 2 to 2.5 inches long (body only). They are
very black, but do show some bronzish color on the belly, kind of an
undertone and not really a true color. It can only be seen in certain
light.


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"Azul" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:37:55 -0500, "LoaderLady"
> > wrote:
>
> >That's what I meant by spending money on them. I got these 2 at
Petsmart,
> >and they do sell them as moors. I know it's not the proper definition,
and
> >so do you, but most of the public doesn't, so they get away with it, I
> >guess. It's like selling "Peekapoo's" and "Cockapoo's" as purebred, when
> >they're obviously NOT! (as a former dog breeder, that drives me nuts!).
> >
> >I have heard that true black moors are hard to find since they're
actually,
> >as you said, telescopes without color yet. Black or orange, my pets will
> >still be pretty. ARE there any true black moors around? Even black
> >Oranda's and other varieties eventually change color, so I hear. I like
the
> >blacks, but, like most people, I'd prefer they stay the color I
purchased.
> >I guess that's the fun of fish - what you see isn't always what you get!
> >:-)
> If you buy older fish they are more likely to keep their color. I do
> have a moor, but I got him when he was already a good two inches long
> and had a black stomach. He has never even looked like he wants to
> change color.
>
> The panda I had started to change color after I had had him for about
> 6 months. But he was only about an inch when I bought him and had a
> very white belly.
>
> Pictures of him changing color are available on my web site.
>
> http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/index.html
>
>
> Azul

[BigDD]

The funny part is I bought a black moor (telescopic eyes) at the
same time from the same store out of the same tank and it is not
changing color. It's a local aquarium store and they have been great.
That's why the color change surprised me so much.

Thanks everybody for the information. At least now I understand why the
color change occurred.

BigDD