Are snails OK?

[Brian]

I've just noticed a few small snail in my tank. They must have come in with
the new plants I got recently. I'm not sure if this is desirable. Should I
keep these snails or chuck them?

[George Thompson]

Depends, I'd be more inclinded to remove them. Also check pebbles, sides &
ornaments for a translucent goo. That translucent goo contains hundreds of
eggs which hatch into lots of tiny snails.

Snails are as messy as goldfish, reproduce far quicker. On the plus side,
mine used to clean the tank quite well (which some people find hard to
believe) and as Ingrid & others will shortly point out, they can introduce
nasties into the tank.

I got rid of mine into the pond, where some children vandalised and killed
'em...

grr

"Brian" > wrote in message
...
> I've just noticed a few small snail in my tank. They must have come in
with
> the new plants I got recently. I'm not sure if this is desirable. Should
I
> keep these snails or chuck them?
>
>

[Geezer From Freezer]

George Thompson wrote:
>
> Depends, I'd be more inclinded to remove them. Also check pebbles, sides &
> ornaments for a translucent goo. That translucent goo contains hundreds of
> eggs which hatch into lots of tiny snails.
>
> Snails are as messy as goldfish, reproduce far quicker. On the plus side,
> mine used to clean the tank quite well (which some people find hard to
> believe) and as Ingrid & others will shortly point out, they can introduce
> nasties into the tank.
>
> I got rid of mine into the pond, where some children vandalised and killed
> 'em...

Typically new borns are less likely to bring nasties into the tank. If you don't
want
them in future, let your plants sit in a 1/10 solution of bleached water for a
few minutes
and then rinse very thorougly, before introducing to your tank.

[Kodiak]

What kind of nasties are we talking about here, how bad can it get?
Dangerous to humans too?
....Kodiak

"Geezer From Freezer" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> George Thompson wrote:
> >
> > Depends, I'd be more inclinded to remove them. Also check pebbles,
sides &
> > ornaments for a translucent goo. That translucent goo contains hundreds
of
> > eggs which hatch into lots of tiny snails.
> >
> > Snails are as messy as goldfish, reproduce far quicker. On the plus
side,
> > mine used to clean the tank quite well (which some people find hard to
> > believe) and as Ingrid & others will shortly point out, they can
introduce
> > nasties into the tank.
> >
> > I got rid of mine into the pond, where some children vandalised and
killed
> > 'em...
>
> Typically new borns are less likely to bring nasties into the tank. If you
don't
> want
> them in future, let your plants sit in a 1/10 solution of bleached water
for a
> few minutes
> and then rinse very thorougly, before introducing to your tank.

[Geezer From Freezer]

Snail nasties are only dangerous to humans if you eat them uncooked.
These nasties are parasites or bad bacterias.

[Tom La Bron]

Greezer et al,

The nasties that Ingrid is always talking about does not concern the types
of snails that generally come from plants, etc. She is always talking about
snails being the life cycle of flukes, and some other parasites, but if you
do the research you will find that, for the most part, none of the species
of snails that people with aquariums have to deal with are not in the life
cycle of any parasite. In many cases the disease is unique to a specific
snail in a specific area.

I personally think this is snail scare is someone trying to find an excuse
for their inexperience in keeping fish.

Sometimes I think that Fish Husbandry is as much an art as it is a science,
with so many variables from person to person and place to place that it
makes it hard to help. An example of this is the amount of DS that someone
has in their drinking water. One area near me has a DS of 4,500ppm while in
my area just 30 miles away has only 450ppm and that is during the summer
when evap hits the lake hard. So water chemistry can be a major problem
when treating or working with your tanks. When I lived out in California
about 25 years ago their DS was so high the government almost shut off their
water for the ppm was in the 15,000 range. I don't know what it is now, but
there are all sort of situations that can affect your care of your fish.

In any event, I have probably said too much all ready, but snails are a
personal thing as far as I am concerned. In my ponds out side I have tons
of pond snails right now, and that is because I have brought my fish in
side, and in my tanks inside I have some pond snails and ramshorn snails and
they do fine. The last fish disease I had to deal with was four years ago
when my daughters introduced some free Wally-World fish directly to ponds
with out telling me, thinking that they would look great in the pond.
Needless to say, I lost about 5 fish, but Melafix to care of it. Without
saying it, my daughter will never help out Daddy again like that with out
consulting me first.

HTH to elevate some of your fears.

Tom L.L.
=========================
"Geezer From Freezer" > wrote in message
...
> Snail nasties are only dangerous to humans if you eat them uncooked.
> These nasties are parasites or bad bacterias.

[Kodiak]

Hi Tom,
What does DS stand for (450ppm-15000ppm)?
....Kodiak


"Tom La Bron" > wrote in message
...
> Greezer et al,
>
> The nasties that Ingrid is always talking about does not concern the types
> of snails that generally come from plants, etc. She is always talking
about
> snails being the life cycle of flukes, and some other parasites, but if
you
> do the research you will find that, for the most part, none of the species
> of snails that people with aquariums have to deal with are not in the life
> cycle of any parasite. In many cases the disease is unique to a specific
> snail in a specific area.
>
> I personally think this is snail scare is someone trying to find an excuse
> for their inexperience in keeping fish.
>
> Sometimes I think that Fish Husbandry is as much an art as it is a
science,
> with so many variables from person to person and place to place that it
> makes it hard to help. An example of this is the amount of DS that
someone
> has in their drinking water. One area near me has a DS of 4,500ppm while
in
> my area just 30 miles away has only 450ppm and that is during the summer
> when evap hits the lake hard. So water chemistry can be a major problem
> when treating or working with your tanks. When I lived out in California
> about 25 years ago their DS was so high the government almost shut off
their
> water for the ppm was in the 15,000 range. I don't know what it is now,
but
> there are all sort of situations that can affect your care of your fish.
>
> In any event, I have probably said too much all ready, but snails are a
> personal thing as far as I am concerned. In my ponds out side I have tons
> of pond snails right now, and that is because I have brought my fish in
> side, and in my tanks inside I have some pond snails and ramshorn snails
and
> they do fine. The last fish disease I had to deal with was four years ago
> when my daughters introduced some free Wally-World fish directly to ponds
> with out telling me, thinking that they would look great in the pond.
> Needless to say, I lost about 5 fish, but Melafix to care of it. Without
> saying it, my daughter will never help out Daddy again like that with out
> consulting me first.
>
> HTH to elevate some of your fears.
>
> Tom L.L.
> =========================
> "Geezer From Freezer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Snail nasties are only dangerous to humans if you eat them uncooked.
> > These nasties are parasites or bad bacterias.
>
>

[Tom La Bron]

Kodiak,

DS stands for the dissolved salts in the water, which are there naturally.

Tom L.L.
"Kodiak" > wrote in message
. ..
> Hi Tom,
> What does DS stand for (450ppm-15000ppm)?
> ...Kodiak
>
>
> "Tom La Bron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greezer et al,
> >
> > The nasties that Ingrid is always talking about does not concern the
types
> > of snails that generally come from plants, etc. She is always talking
> about
> > snails being the life cycle of flukes, and some other parasites, but if
> you
> > do the research you will find that, for the most part, none of the
species
> > of snails that people with aquariums have to deal with are not in the
life
> > cycle of any parasite. In many cases the disease is unique to a
specific
> > snail in a specific area.
> >
> > I personally think this is snail scare is someone trying to find an
excuse
> > for their inexperience in keeping fish.
> >
> > Sometimes I think that Fish Husbandry is as much an art as it is a
> science,
> > with so many variables from person to person and place to place that it
> > makes it hard to help. An example of this is the amount of DS that
> someone
> > has in their drinking water. One area near me has a DS of 4,500ppm
while
> in
> > my area just 30 miles away has only 450ppm and that is during the summer
> > when evap hits the lake hard. So water chemistry can be a major problem
> > when treating or working with your tanks. When I lived out in
California
> > about 25 years ago their DS was so high the government almost shut off
> their
> > water for the ppm was in the 15,000 range. I don't know what it is now,
> but
> > there are all sort of situations that can affect your care of your fish.
> >
> > In any event, I have probably said too much all ready, but snails are a
> > personal thing as far as I am concerned. In my ponds out side I have
tons
> > of pond snails right now, and that is because I have brought my fish in
> > side, and in my tanks inside I have some pond snails and ramshorn snails
> and
> > they do fine. The last fish disease I had to deal with was four years
ago
> > when my daughters introduced some free Wally-World fish directly to
ponds
> > with out telling me, thinking that they would look great in the pond.
> > Needless to say, I lost about 5 fish, but Melafix to care of it.
Without
> > saying it, my daughter will never help out Daddy again like that with
out
> > consulting me first.
> >
> > HTH to elevate some of your fears.
> >
> > Tom L.L.
> > =========================
> > "Geezer From Freezer" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Snail nasties are only dangerous to humans if you eat them uncooked.
> > > These nasties are parasites or bad bacterias.
> >
> >
>
>

[Kodiak]

wow, 15000ppm is 15ppt or 1.5%. Sea water is 3% or 30ppt.
Could city water have so much DS in it?
....Kodiak

"Tom La Bron" > wrote in message
...
> Kodiak,
>
> DS stands for the dissolved salts in the water, which are there naturally.
>
> Tom L.L.
> "Kodiak" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Hi Tom,
> > What does DS stand for (450ppm-15000ppm)?
> > ...Kodiak
> >
> >
> > "Tom La Bron" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Greezer et al,
> > >
> > > The nasties that Ingrid is always talking about does not concern the
> types
> > > of snails that generally come from plants, etc. She is always talking
> > about
> > > snails being the life cycle of flukes, and some other parasites, but
if
> > you
> > > do the research you will find that, for the most part, none of the
> species
> > > of snails that people with aquariums have to deal with are not in the
> life
> > > cycle of any parasite. In many cases the disease is unique to a
> specific
> > > snail in a specific area.
> > >
> > > I personally think this is snail scare is someone trying to find an
> excuse
> > > for their inexperience in keeping fish.
> > >
> > > Sometimes I think that Fish Husbandry is as much an art as it is a
> > science,
> > > with so many variables from person to person and place to place that
it
> > > makes it hard to help. An example of this is the amount of DS that
> > someone
> > > has in their drinking water. One area near me has a DS of 4,500ppm
> while
> > in
> > > my area just 30 miles away has only 450ppm and that is during the
summer
> > > when evap hits the lake hard. So water chemistry can be a major
problem
> > > when treating or working with your tanks. When I lived out in
> California
> > > about 25 years ago their DS was so high the government almost shut off
> > their
> > > water for the ppm was in the 15,000 range. I don't know what it is
now,
> > but
> > > there are all sort of situations that can affect your care of your
fish.
> > >
> > > In any event, I have probably said too much all ready, but snails are
a
> > > personal thing as far as I am concerned. In my ponds out side I have
> tons
> > > of pond snails right now, and that is because I have brought my fish
in
> > > side, and in my tanks inside I have some pond snails and ramshorn
snails
> > and
> > > they do fine. The last fish disease I had to deal with was four years
> ago
> > > when my daughters introduced some free Wally-World fish directly to
> ponds
> > > with out telling me, thinking that they would look great in the pond.
> > > Needless to say, I lost about 5 fish, but Melafix to care of it.
> Without
> > > saying it, my daughter will never help out Daddy again like that with
> out
> > > consulting me first.
> > >
> > > HTH to elevate some of your fears.
> > >
> > > Tom L.L.
> > > =========================
> > > "Geezer From Freezer" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Snail nasties are only dangerous to humans if you eat them uncooked.
> > > > These nasties are parasites or bad bacterias.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>