Re: goldfish septicimia - advice please!

[Mel]

Have you tested your water parameters?


"^^ Bex ^^" > wrote in message
...
>
> My Goldfish, who has recently succumbed to the boils that affected my
other
> fish (see previous post....the fish got better but now has them back) is
> now in an antibiotic treated tank. Today he has started clamping his fins
> to his body and sitting at the bottom of the tank. The base of his fins
> are red but he is still feeding atm.
>
> Is there anything I can do to make it easier for him? Obviously the main
> tank has been emptied and scrubbed, as I presume there is too much
bacteria
> present for the fish. The fish that now looks very sick had the smallest
> amount of boils, just the one in fact. I presume it has septicemia, it's
> in antibiotics and I'm trying to get it to eat flakes soaked in the same
> antibiotic. The water is being changed daily. Any advice? I really
would
> be upset to loose my fish, I've had him 5 years.
>
> Bex
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[BErney1014]

>The water is being changed daily. Any advice? I really would
>be upset to loose my fish, I've had him 5 years.

Try furanase, package directions. It's a messy pill when it dissolves so grind
it up into as fine a mush as you can before adding to the water. If the fish
doesn't improve in two days it needs a different med. You can mix kanacyn by
Seachem (kanaplex) into food and feed if the fish eats. If not, water
treatment.

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you need to feed antibiotic food rather than put the fish in antibiotics in the
water, unless the antibiotic crossed the skin. in the case of oxolinic acid it can
only be used in the water for 3 days and then it becomes a deadly overdose.
boils are internal infection. treat internally with food and/or injections.
has the antibiotics killed the biofilter, what are your water quality parameters,
ammonia, nitrites, nitrates and pH?
if the water is good, if the gills are bright cherry red, if the slime coat is not
gloppy, then run the temp up to 84oF and use great aeration. add 1 teaspoon salt per
5 gallons, no additives, dissolve first, add slowly. when the boils rupture do
topical treatment http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold/disease/disease.htm
Ingrid

^^ Bex ^^ > wrote:
>My Goldfish, who has recently succumbed to the boils that affected my other
>fish (see previous post....the fish got better but now has them back) is
>now in an antibiotic treated tank. Today he has started clamping his fins
>to his body and sitting at the bottom of the tank. The base of his fins
>are red but he is still feeding atm.
>
>Is there anything I can do to make it easier for him? Obviously the main
>tank has been emptied and scrubbed, as I presume there is too much bacteria
>present for the fish. The fish that now looks very sick had the smallest
>amount of boils, just the one in fact. I presume it has septicemia, it's
>in antibiotics and I'm trying to get it to eat flakes soaked in the same
>antibiotic. The water is being changed daily. Any advice? I really would
>be upset to loose my fish, I've had him 5 years.


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[Mel]

I've had succcess treating septicinia with Interpets anti internal bacteria
before so might be worth a try. I think water life make a med which treats
it too but cant remember what it's called.
Mel.


> wrote in message
...
> you need to feed antibiotic food rather than put the fish in antibiotics
in the
> water, unless the antibiotic crossed the skin. in the case of oxolinic
acid it can
> only be used in the water for 3 days and then it becomes a deadly
overdose.
> boils are internal infection. treat internally with food and/or
injections.
> has the antibiotics killed the biofilter, what are your water quality
parameters,
> ammonia, nitrites, nitrates and pH?
> if the water is good, if the gills are bright cherry red, if the slime
coat is not
> gloppy, then run the temp up to 84oF and use great aeration. add 1
teaspoon salt per
> 5 gallons, no additives, dissolve first, add slowly. when the boils
rupture do
> topical treatment
http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold/disease/disease.htm
> Ingrid
>
> ^^ Bex ^^ > wrote:
> >My Goldfish, who has recently succumbed to the boils that affected my
other
> >fish (see previous post....the fish got better but now has them back) is
> >now in an antibiotic treated tank. Today he has started clamping his
fins
> >to his body and sitting at the bottom of the tank. The base of his fins
> >are red but he is still feeding atm.
> >
> >Is there anything I can do to make it easier for him? Obviously the main
> >tank has been emptied and scrubbed, as I presume there is too much
bacteria
> >present for the fish. The fish that now looks very sick had the smallest
> >amount of boils, just the one in fact. I presume it has septicemia, it's
> >in antibiotics and I'm trying to get it to eat flakes soaked in the same
> >antibiotic. The water is being changed daily. Any advice? I really
would
> >be upset to loose my fish, I've had him 5 years.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[BErney1014]

>I've had succcess treating septicinia with Interpets anti internal bacteria
>before so might be worth a try.

Remember to use it for 10 days, no matter what the package says. The recurring
"boils" indicate that when it was cleared, it either mutated to a more
resistant strain or it wasn't really clear.

[BErney1014]

>I assumed it was a fish think and not a water think you see

The fish has the infection, not the water.

[Kodiak]

I'm late in this thread so maybe I missed this. But here's some more
canadian content
if your interested...

http://www.canadiangoldfish.com/

....Kodiak


"BErney1014" > wrote in message
...
> >I assumed it was a fish think and not a water think you see
>
> The fish has the infection, not the water.