Anerobic Process For Tanks

[Fisher]

Wondering if anyone tried anerobic filtration for their tanks? How did you
guys do it?

After all we it is part of bio-filtration. :-)

[[email protected]]

sintered glass beads. forget the name. it is so much safer/easier to do a veggie
filter. Ingrid

"Fisher" > wrote:

>Wondering if anyone tried anerobic filtration for their tanks? How did you
>guys do it?
>
>After all we it is part of bio-filtration. :-)
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Fisher]

Actually, I am already having plants in the tank. The fishes seems to be
happier and healthier than before I started keeping plants in the tank. The
only set-back is that the roots of the plants are growing in and out all
over my under-gravel filter. But then, I do not disturb the gravel too much
(aerobic process). I just rinse the external filter once in awhile.

The fishes are also not so prone to getting red veins. Appetite is
excellent, fishes' defecation looks good too.

I just thought of going one step further with the bio-filtration (anaerobic
process). My ultimate goal is to do away with any water changes; now this
still remain a wish.

As an experiment, I have set up another external filter that is filled with
gravel (for the bio bugs). I controlled the output flow to a trickle;
hopefully the conditions in the filter would be good enough for the
anaerobic process.

Any comments is appreciated. Thanks




> wrote in message
...
sintered glass beads. forget the name. it is so much safer/easier to do a
veggie
filter. Ingrid

"Fisher" > wrote:

>Wondering if anyone tried anerobic filtration for their tanks? How did you
>guys do it?
>
>After all we it is part of bio-filtration. :-)
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[[email protected]]

gravel with plants is a delicate balancing act. most people can carry this off with
tropicals, few can do so with Goldfish due to the high level of wastes they produce
and their habit of stirring up the bottom releases the toxic anaerobic gases. the
best way to do away with WEEKLY water changes to keep nitrates down is a veggie
filter, one that is above the tank and extremely well oxygenated. Ingrid

"Fisher" > wrote:
>Actually, I am already having plants in the tank. The fishes seems to be
>happier and healthier than before I started keeping plants in the tank. The
>only set-back is that the roots of the plants are growing in and out all
>over my under-gravel filter. But then, I do not disturb the gravel too much
>(aerobic process). I just rinse the external filter once in awhile.
>
>The fishes are also not so prone to getting red veins. Appetite is
>excellent, fishes' defecation looks good too.
>
>I just thought of going one step further with the bio-filtration (anaerobic
>process). My ultimate goal is to do away with any water changes; now this
>still remain a wish.
>
>As an experiment, I have set up another external filter that is filled with
>gravel (for the bio bugs). I controlled the output flow to a trickle;
>hopefully the conditions in the filter would be good enough for the
>anaerobic process.
>
>Any comments is appreciated. Thanks
>
>
>
>
> wrote in message
...
>sintered glass beads. forget the name. it is so much safer/easier to do a
>veggie
>filter. Ingrid
>
>"Fisher" > wrote:
>
>>Wondering if anyone tried anerobic filtration for their tanks? How did you
>>guys do it?
>>
>>After all we it is part of bio-filtration. :-)
>>
>
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>www.drsolo.com
>Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>endorsements or recommendations I make.
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Fisher]

Thanks for your advise. In my tank, it seems that the gases could have been
dispersed by the constant foraging of the goldfishes; either that or the
gravel is too coarse to keep the gases in. :) But nevertheless, I'll keep a
look out for the gases in the gravel.

By the way, I have a 4ft x 2ft x 2ft tank with about 1.5" to 2" of gravel.
Sparsely planted plants occupy three quarters of the tank. In the tank I
have 2 x 3" (inc. tail) ranchos, 2 x 6" (inc. tail) ryukins and about 10
pigeon blood discus of about 3" diameter.

I know that the temperature preference for the two groups of fishes are
different, but they seemed to be doing well at about 28 deg C. I also added
the 'cure all' salt.

As you have probably guessed by now I have three different filters.
1) Undergravel filters that runs the length and width of the tank, powered
by an air pump (lots of bubbles).
2) A top filter which passes water from the tank through standard filter
wool only.
3) Ehim Pro Filter filled with gravel set at trickle flow. The outlet is
placed near the top filter outlet, just in case the discharge is too toxic
to be taken in by my babies.


Cheers



> wrote in message
...
gravel with plants is a delicate balancing act. most people can carry this
off with
tropicals, few can do so with Goldfish due to the high level of wastes they
produce
and their habit of stirring up the bottom releases the toxic anaerobic
gases. the
best way to do away with WEEKLY water changes to keep nitrates down is a
veggie
filter, one that is above the tank and extremely well oxygenated. Ingrid

"Fisher" > wrote:
>Actually, I am already having plants in the tank. The fishes seems to be
>happier and healthier than before I started keeping plants in the tank. The
>only set-back is that the roots of the plants are growing in and out all
>over my under-gravel filter. But then, I do not disturb the gravel too much
>(aerobic process). I just rinse the external filter once in awhile.
>
>The fishes are also not so prone to getting red veins. Appetite is
>excellent, fishes' defecation looks good too.
>
>I just thought of going one step further with the bio-filtration (anaerobic
>process). My ultimate goal is to do away with any water changes; now this
>still remain a wish.
>
>As an experiment, I have set up another external filter that is filled with
>gravel (for the bio bugs). I controlled the output flow to a trickle;
>hopefully the conditions in the filter would be good enough for the
>anaerobic process.
>
>Any comments is appreciated. Thanks
>
>
>
>
> wrote in message
...
>sintered glass beads. forget the name. it is so much safer/easier to do a
>veggie
>filter. Ingrid
>
>"Fisher" > wrote:
>
>>Wondering if anyone tried anerobic filtration for their tanks? How did you
>>guys do it?
>>
>>After all we it is part of bio-filtration. :-)
>>
>
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>www.drsolo.com
>Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>endorsements or recommendations I make.
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.