Fry with fungus

[Geezer From Freezer]

I have a little fry (I have quarantined him from rest of the fry) with
fungus growing from the side (near where his gill is).

I have him in about 6 litres of water with about 2 teaspoons of salt
and a few drops of melafix. Is there any other advice people can give?

When its your own fish, you sometimes overlook the obvious!

[Mel]

A bit of methylene blue might help rather than the melafix.Trouble is though
that fungus is a secondary infection so even if you get rid of that there
might be something lurking underneath.
Hope he makes it :O)
Mel.

"Geezer From Freezer" > wrote in message
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> I have a little fry (I have quarantined him from rest of the fry) with
> fungus growing from the side (near where his gill is).
>
> I have him in about 6 litres of water with about 2 teaspoons of salt
> and a few drops of melafix. Is there any other advice people can give?
>
> When its your own fish, you sometimes overlook the obvious!

[Donald Kerns]

Geezer From Freezer wrote:

> I have a little fry (I have quarantined him from rest of the fry) with
> fungus growing from the side (near where his gill is).

"Fry with Fungus" sounds like a good name for a punk band...

;-)

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it could also be columnaris. fry are pretty delicate. Ingrid

Geezer From Freezer > wrote:

>I have a little fry (I have quarantined him from rest of the fry) with
>fungus growing from the side (near where his gill is).
>
>I have him in about 6 litres of water with about 2 teaspoons of salt
>and a few drops of melafix. Is there any other advice people can give?
>
>When its your own fish, you sometimes overlook the obvious!



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[Geezer From Freezer]

wrote:
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> it could also be columnaris. fry are pretty delicate. Ingrid
>

Ingrid,

Exactly why I'm worried about Melafix and salt doses. :(

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salt is fine, I wouldnt use melafix on any fish. Ingrid

Geezer From Freezer > wrote:

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>
wrote:
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>> it could also be columnaris. fry are pretty delicate. Ingrid
>>
>
>Ingrid,
>
>Exactly why I'm worried about Melafix and salt doses. :(



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[LoaderLady]

You wouldn't use Melafix, Ingrid? How come?

I have a telescope right now which lost it's eye ball today, and I put it in
a separate tank with Melafix to help it heal. Is there something I should
know? It's highly recommended elsewhere... or did you just mean you
wouldn't use it with the fry?

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> wrote in message
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> salt is fine, I wouldnt use melafix on any fish. Ingrid
>
> Geezer From Freezer > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> wrote:
> >>
> >> it could also be columnaris. fry are pretty delicate. Ingrid
> >>
> >
> >Ingrid,
> >
> >Exactly why I'm worried about Melafix and salt doses. :(
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> www.drsolo.com
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

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various concoctions of tea tree oil is an old treatment .. there are concerns.
healing up too quickly over a wound can result in bacteria being trapped inside.
http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/care/care3.htm#TEA%20TREE%20OIL,%20Melaleuca
all you need is a bit of salt in the water for something like lost eyes, scrapes,
etc. INgrid

"LoaderLady" > wrote:

>You wouldn't use Melafix, Ingrid? How come?
>
>I have a telescope right now which lost it's eye ball today, and I put it in
>a separate tank with Melafix to help it heal. Is there something I should
>know? It's highly recommended elsewhere... or did you just mean you
>wouldn't use it with the fry?



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[Tom La Bron]

Geezer from the Freezer and Tammy,

Nothing that Ingrid has listed has anything to with Goldfish or fish in
general. Before it went on the market it went through rigorous testing for
10 years as a medication for fish. In its present concentrations and
medication dilutions it is so mild that you can use it on Discus fry, one of
the most delicate fry to deal with if they get sick. If Discus fry get sick
you usually just flush them. So I would think it should be fine for
Goldfish fry.

If you take the time to read Ingrid's pages you will find that most of it is
supposition with no or little real research in to the problem and in those
areas where it deals with real cases the toxicity is induced because of
gross overdoses. Most of the cases deal with people trying to use tea tree
essential oil in its pure form not an approved medicated product.

Melafix is 1% tea tree oil and when diluted in the tank the percentage
decreases to a very low level that is still effective in its antibacterial
and antifungal capacity. By the way, no where in her page or links could I
find anything relating to the stuff about the tea tree oil making it heal to
fast trapping the bacteria below, which in itself is a little odd since the
tea tree oil is antibacterial the bacteria would have been killed, so there
would have been no living organism to be trapped.

In any event, I have used it and it works great I have recommended to
others and it has worked great for them. When I quarantine fish I use
Melafix for the recommended time length just in case and the fish have never
had a problem.

At least she has updated her pages about tea tree oil, even though it still
is supposition. Previously she had links about babies ingesting tea tree
essential oil and it almost killing them. A lot of correlation to fish that
story has for Goldfish. The baby was given a teaspoon of the tea tree oil
and the baby got really sick, but then again a teaspoon of salt given to a
baby will kill it also, so you draw the conclusion and make the decision. I
just wish she would stop trying to push undocumented stuff on the Goldfish
community, just because well-meaning someone dropped pure tea tree oil on a
bloody feather of their bird and it almost killed them, what does this have
to do with using Melafix on Goldfish.

Oh, and all those essential oils that are mentioned on her page, (you notice
tea tree oil is on neither list) are only hepatoxic or neurotoxic in very
high concentration. As someone who makes natural soaps, when used properly
these essential oils are fine. The only one that is really bad news and all
soapers are warned away and told not to even try and use it because of its
major toxicity is wintergreen.

In any event, tea tree oil when used properly is just fine.

HTH

Tom L.L.
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> wrote in message
...
> various concoctions of tea tree oil is an old treatment .. there are
concerns.
> healing up too quickly over a wound can result in bacteria being trapped
inside.
>
http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/care/care3.htm#TEA%20TREE%20OIL,%20Melaleuca
> all you need is a bit of salt in the water for something like lost eyes,
scrapes,
> etc. INgrid
>
> "LoaderLady" > wrote:
>
> >You wouldn't use Melafix, Ingrid? How come?
> >
> >I have a telescope right now which lost it's eye ball today, and I put it
in
> >a separate tank with Melafix to help it heal. Is there something I
should
> >know? It's highly recommended elsewhere... or did you just mean you
> >wouldn't use it with the fry?
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.