Photos of Your Aquariums and Fish [Archive]

ste mc ©

January 14th 04, 09:06 PM

Hi Mel,

Sure, feel free to email them to me! :-) I don't think people are supposed
to post images to non-binary newsgroups anyway, so just as well that you
didn't figure out how to do it! ;-) Email me as many as you want, as I've
got a 1mb broadband connection with blueyonder, so email sizes aren't a
problem. I'll try and take some decent images and upload them to my
webspace tonight.

Thanks,

Stephen

"Mel" > wrote in message
...
| I've got loads of pics of mine but can't work out how to post them here!
lol
| Not very technically minded I'm afraid! Will send them to your email if
you
| like?
| Mel.
|
| "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Hi there,
| >
| > I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your aquariums
and
| > fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take a few
| shots
| > of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that the fish
| > never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I don't want
| to
| > use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just bounce off
the
| > glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what I can
come
| > up with.
| >
| > In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you have got!
:-)
| >
| > Take care,
| >
| > Stephen
| >
| >
|
|

Charles

January 14th 04, 10:00 PM

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 20:53:49 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your aquariums and
>fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take a few shots
>of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that the fish
>never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I don't want to
>use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just bounce off the
>glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what I can come
>up with.
>
>In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you have got! :-)
>
>Take care,
>
>Stephen
>
Take lots of pictures and delete the bad ones. I have never seen any
effect of flash on the fish, they seem to ignore it. Shoot at an
angle so the flash reflection does not come straight back to the
camera. Expect a LOT of bad pictures, sometimes good ones happen.

A google search for aquarium photography will give you many results.

There is a group, alt.binaries.aquaria, for pictures of this sort, it
is not carried by all news servers though.

--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

GiveMeABMW

January 15th 04, 03:22 AM

Check this out for tips:

http://www.goldfishparadise.com/articles/fishphotography.phphttp://www.gol
dfishparadise.com/articles/fishphotography.php

GiveMeABMW

January 15th 04, 04:42 AM

Whoops, pasted that twice:

http://www.gol
dfishparadise.com/articles/fishphotography.php

Steve

January 15th 04, 07:42 AM

"ste mc ©" > wrote in message
...
> Hi there,
>
> I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your aquariums and
> fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take a few
shots
> of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that the fish
> never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I don't want
to
> use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just bounce off the
> glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what I can come
> up with.
>
> In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you have got! :-)
>
> Take care,
>
> Stephen
>
I use my dig video camera then when I edit the film, take single frames off.
A few of mine are at http://www.djh.ukjournalists.co.uk/fish.htm

ste mc ©

January 15th 04, 10:40 AM

"Steve" > wrote in message
...
>
> "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your aquariums
and
> > fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take a few
> shots
> > of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that the fish
> > never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I don't want
> to
> > use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just bounce off
the
> > glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what I can
come
> > up with.
> >
> > In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you have got!
:-)
> >
> > Take care,
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> I use my dig video camera then when I edit the film, take single frames
off.
> A few of mine are at http://www.djh.ukjournalists.co.uk/fish.htm

Hi Steve,

That's a good idea, and your images look good too! ...if only I had a
digital video camera! :-)

Thanks for sharing,

Stephen

ste mc ©

January 15th 04, 11:25 AM

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 20:53:49 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
>
> >Hi there,
> >
> >I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your aquariums
and
> >fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take a few
shots
> >of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that the fish
> >never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I don't want
to
> >use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just bounce off
the
> >glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what I can
come
> >up with.
> >
> >In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you have got!
:-)
> >
> >Take care,
> >
> >Stephen
> >
> Take lots of pictures and delete the bad ones. I have never seen any
> effect of flash on the fish, they seem to ignore it. Shoot at an
> angle so the flash reflection does not come straight back to the
> camera. Expect a LOT of bad pictures, sometimes good ones happen.
>
> A google search for aquarium photography will give you many results.
>
> There is a group, alt.binaries.aquaria, for pictures of this sort, it
> is not carried by all news servers though.
>
> - Charles

Hi Charles,

I took about 100 photos last night, and it was tough, as you say! I got
about 20 shots that were in focus, and of those, only about 10 shots were
decent, ie, never had a fishes head or tail chopped off or something!
That's a bad ratio of good to bad images! :-)

I did use the flash in the end, and my luck did improve. Thankfully, and as
you say, my fish didn't seem affected by it, so that's a relief. If it was
causing them to panic or swim frantically, I would have stopped, but they
seemed normal. Some fish were even swimming up towards to camera to
investigate! :-)

The main problem is that the fish never stop moving, so it makes it
difficult to focus on them. I've got quite a good digital camera, a Canon
PowerShot G5, but it's not in the same league as a digital SLR. My
autofocus is way too slow to catch a fish, and the manual focus is quite hit
and miss because I can only look on an LCD to see if it's in focus, and it's
very small - so what looks in focus on the small screen, might be out of
focus on the computer screen. :-( I'd like to buy a digital SLR with proper
lenses later this year, but that's for another newsgroup... :-) Any
photography buffs here? :-)

Without the flash, I was shooting using a high ISO to get a decent shutter
speed and reduce blurry images, but the photos were very noisy, so best
using flash and ISO 50.

I take my photos as Canon RAW files, so I haven't yet converted them to
JPEG's and uploaded them to my webspace - it was quite late last night when
I was doing this! But I'll upload them this evening and post the links
here. I hope to get better images in future, so practice will hopefully
make perfect!

Thanks,

Stephen

ste mc ©

January 15th 04, 11:28 AM

"GiveMeABMW" > wrote in message
...
> Whoops, pasted that twice:
>
> http://www.goldfishparadise.com/articles/fishphotography.php

Thanks for that link, I wish I'd seen that before I started snapping away
last night! :-)

Thanks,

Stephen

Azul

January 15th 04, 12:10 PM

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:40:41 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:

>
>"Steve" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> > I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your aquariums
>and
>> > fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take a few
>> shots
>> > of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that the fish
>> > never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I don't want
>> to
>> > use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just bounce off
>the
>> > glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what I can
>come
>> > up with.
>> >
>> > In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you have got!
>:-)
>> >
>> > Take care,
>> >
>> > Stephen
>> >
>> I use my dig video camera then when I edit the film, take single frames
>off.
>> A few of mine are at http://www.djh.ukjournalists.co.uk/fish.htm
>
>
>Hi Steve,
>
>That's a good idea, and your images look good too! ...if only I had a
>digital video camera! :-)
>
>Thanks for sharing,
>
>Stephen
>
Mine were hit and miss, but I did get some good ones.
http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/index.html

Azul

ste mc ©

January 15th 04, 01:07 PM

"Azul" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:40:41 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Steve" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >> "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Hi there,
> >> >
> >> > I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your
aquariums
> >and
> >> > fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take a few
> >> shots
> >> > of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that the
fish
> >> > never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I don't
want
> >> to
> >> > use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just bounce
off
> >the
> >> > glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what I can
> >come
> >> > up with.
> >> >
> >> > In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you have
got!
> >:-)
> >> >
> >> > Take care,
> >> >
> >> > Stephen
> >> >
> >> I use my dig video camera then when I edit the film, take single frames
> >off.
> >> A few of mine are at http://www.djh.ukjournalists.co.uk/fish.htm
> >
> >
> >Hi Steve,
> >
> >That's a good idea, and your images look good too! ...if only I had a
> >digital video camera! :-)
> >
> >Thanks for sharing,
> >
> >Stephen
> >
> Mine were hit and miss, but I did get some good ones.
> http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/index.html
>
> Azul

Hi Azul,

You did get some good ones, and nice fish too! I like the names of them,
like Electrolux and Hoover! :-)

I noticed that you have sand in your tank, is this okay with the fish, do
they ever try and eat it? I've noticed that the fish in my tank sometimes
try and eat the gravel, and I've seen them pick bits up and spit them back
out before. I was thinking of going to the coast and picking some small
pebbles from a beach and using this instead, just so that it's too big for
them to try and eat. But I'll see how it goes.

Stephen

Gunther

January 15th 04, 03:16 PM

You might try getting up with your fish in the morning.
Goldfish's eyes take a long time to adjust to light in the
morning. I have my tanks on timers, and when the light first
kicks on, they remain stationary for the first 10-15 minutes.
I've been able to get a shot or two then.
Of course, you don't get more than one pose, but at least
your chances of focus are better. :)

I just posted one to alt.binaries.aquaria, subj = "Pepper in Profile"

Gunther

Charles

January 15th 04, 03:57 PM

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:07:26 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:

>
>"Azul" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:40:41 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Steve" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>
>> >> "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > Hi there,
>> >> >
>> >> > I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your
>aquariums
>> >and
>> >> > fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take a few
>> >> shots
>> >> > of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that the
>fish
>> >> > never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I don't
>want
>> >> to
>> >> > use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just bounce
>off
>> >the
>> >> > glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what I can
>> >come
>> >> > up with.
>> >> >
>> >> > In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you have
>got!
>> >:-)
>> >> >
>> >> > Take care,
>> >> >
>> >> > Stephen
>> >> >
>> >> I use my dig video camera then when I edit the film, take single frames
>> >off.
>> >> A few of mine are at http://www.djh.ukjournalists.co.uk/fish.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >Hi Steve,
>> >
>> >That's a good idea, and your images look good too! ...if only I had a
>> >digital video camera! :-)
>> >
>> >Thanks for sharing,
>> >
>> >Stephen
>> >
>> Mine were hit and miss, but I did get some good ones.
>> http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/index.html
>>
>> Azul
>
>Hi Azul,
>
>You did get some good ones, and nice fish too! I like the names of them,
>like Electrolux and Hoover! :-)
>
>I noticed that you have sand in your tank, is this okay with the fish, do
>they ever try and eat it? I've noticed that the fish in my tank sometimes
>try and eat the gravel, and I've seen them pick bits up and spit them back
>out before. I was thinking of going to the coast and picking some small
>pebbles from a beach and using this instead, just so that it's too big for
>them to try and eat. But I'll see how it goes.
>
>Stephen
>
Be very careful with the pebbles. The mouthing of sand/gravel is
normal for the fish, and they are not always smart enough to know what
they can handle. Sometimes they will get a rock stuck in their mouth,
and it is up to you to get it out, this can be traumatic, best avoided
if possible.

--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

LoaderLady

January 15th 04, 04:50 PM

I would avoid using pebbles anyways. I don't think it's a good idea to use
stones, etc., from water which contains fish since you don't know what
you'll be bringing home with the rocks. IMO, of course.

I have sand as well, "concrete sand" from a gravel pit, but I know the sand
came from a pond which doesn't have fish (it's a fairly new pond). I have
used regular rocks in tanks, too, but they are not from a river - actually,
I got most of them from a potato field. I work the potato harvest in the
fall, and I kept some interesting rocks I took off the grader. They've been
in my tank for a while with no problems. And, yes I did the vinegar test
first (put a drop of vinegar on the rock to see if it fizzes - if it does,
don't use).

Just my 2 cents...

--
}<> Tammy <>{
Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store from
this address:
http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project

Watkins Business Opportunity
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Me and my fish Thank You!!
"Charles" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:07:26 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Azul" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:40:41 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Steve" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >>
> >> >> "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > Hi there,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your
> >aquariums
> >> >and
> >> >> > fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take a
few
> >> >> shots
> >> >> > of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that the
> >fish
> >> >> > never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I
don't
> >want
> >> >> to
> >> >> > use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just bounce
> >off
> >> >the
> >> >> > glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what I
can
> >> >come
> >> >> > up with.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you have
> >got!
> >> >:-)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Take care,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Stephen
> >> >> >
> >> >> I use my dig video camera then when I edit the film, take single
frames
> >> >off.
> >> >> A few of mine are at http://www.djh.ukjournalists.co.uk/fish.htm
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hi Steve,
> >> >
> >> >That's a good idea, and your images look good too! ...if only I had a
> >> >digital video camera! :-)
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for sharing,
> >> >
> >> >Stephen
> >> >
> >> Mine were hit and miss, but I did get some good ones.
> >> http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/index.html
> >>
> >> Azul
> >
> >Hi Azul,
> >
> >You did get some good ones, and nice fish too! I like the names of them,
> >like Electrolux and Hoover! :-)
> >
> >I noticed that you have sand in your tank, is this okay with the fish, do
> >they ever try and eat it? I've noticed that the fish in my tank
sometimes
> >try and eat the gravel, and I've seen them pick bits up and spit them
back
> >out before. I was thinking of going to the coast and picking some small
> >pebbles from a beach and using this instead, just so that it's too big
for
> >them to try and eat. But I'll see how it goes.
> >
> >Stephen
> >
> Be very careful with the pebbles. The mouthing of sand/gravel is
> normal for the fish, and they are not always smart enough to know what
> they can handle. Sometimes they will get a rock stuck in their mouth,
> and it is up to you to get it out, this can be traumatic, best avoided
> if possible.
>
>
> --
>
> - Charles
> -
> -does not play well with others

Mel

January 15th 04, 08:45 PM

I find that taking photos is easiest right after they have been fed and are
chewing their pellets up. They don't tend to move for a good 5 mins then!
Mel.

"ste mc ©" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Charles" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 20:53:49 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
> >
> > >Hi there,
> > >
> > >I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your aquariums
> and
> > >fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take a few
> shots
> > >of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that the fish
> > >never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I don't
want
> to
> > >use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just bounce off
> the
> > >glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what I can
> come
> > >up with.
> > >
> > >In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you have got!
> :-)
> > >
> > >Take care,
> > >
> > >Stephen
> > >
> > Take lots of pictures and delete the bad ones. I have never seen any
> > effect of flash on the fish, they seem to ignore it. Shoot at an
> > angle so the flash reflection does not come straight back to the
> > camera. Expect a LOT of bad pictures, sometimes good ones happen.
> >
> > A google search for aquarium photography will give you many results.
> >
> > There is a group, alt.binaries.aquaria, for pictures of this sort, it
> > is not carried by all news servers though.
> >
> > - Charles
>
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> I took about 100 photos last night, and it was tough, as you say! I got
> about 20 shots that were in focus, and of those, only about 10 shots were
> decent, ie, never had a fishes head or tail chopped off or something!
> That's a bad ratio of good to bad images! :-)
>
> I did use the flash in the end, and my luck did improve. Thankfully, and
as
> you say, my fish didn't seem affected by it, so that's a relief. If it
was
> causing them to panic or swim frantically, I would have stopped, but they
> seemed normal. Some fish were even swimming up towards to camera to
> investigate! :-)
>
> The main problem is that the fish never stop moving, so it makes it
> difficult to focus on them. I've got quite a good digital camera, a Canon
> PowerShot G5, but it's not in the same league as a digital SLR. My
> autofocus is way too slow to catch a fish, and the manual focus is quite
hit
> and miss because I can only look on an LCD to see if it's in focus, and
it's
> very small - so what looks in focus on the small screen, might be out of
> focus on the computer screen. :-( I'd like to buy a digital SLR with
proper
> lenses later this year, but that's for another newsgroup... :-) Any
> photography buffs here? :-)
>
> Without the flash, I was shooting using a high ISO to get a decent shutter
> speed and reduce blurry images, but the photos were very noisy, so best
> using flash and ISO 50.
>
> I take my photos as Canon RAW files, so I haven't yet converted them to
> JPEG's and uploaded them to my webspace - it was quite late last night
when
> I was doing this! But I'll upload them this evening and post the links
> here. I hope to get better images in future, so practice will hopefully
> make perfect!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stephen
>
>

Mel

January 15th 04, 08:49 PM

Or just go bare bottom..(the tank that is and not yourself!) - so much
easier to clean!
Mel.

"LoaderLady" > wrote in message
. ..
> I would avoid using pebbles anyways. I don't think it's a good idea to
use
> stones, etc., from water which contains fish since you don't know what
> you'll be bringing home with the rocks. IMO, of course.
>
> I have sand as well, "concrete sand" from a gravel pit, but I know the
sand
> came from a pond which doesn't have fish (it's a fairly new pond). I have
> used regular rocks in tanks, too, but they are not from a river -
actually,
> I got most of them from a potato field. I work the potato harvest in the
> fall, and I kept some interesting rocks I took off the grader. They've
been
> in my tank for a while with no problems. And, yes I did the vinegar test
> first (put a drop of vinegar on the rock to see if it fizzes - if it does,
> don't use).
>
> Just my 2 cents...
>
> --
> }<> Tammy <>{
> Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store
from
> this address:
> http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
> purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project
>
> Watkins Business Opportunity
> www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
> Me and my fish Thank You!!
> "Charles" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:07:26 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Azul" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:40:41 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >"Steve" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
> > >> >> ...
> > >> >> > Hi there,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your
> > >aquariums
> > >> >and
> > >> >> > fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take
a
> few
> > >> >> shots
> > >> >> > of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that
the
> > >fish
> > >> >> > never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I
> don't
> > >want
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> > use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just
bounce
> > >off
> > >> >the
> > >> >> > glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what
I
> can
> > >> >come
> > >> >> > up with.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you
have
> > >got!
> > >> >:-)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Take care,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Stephen
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> I use my dig video camera then when I edit the film, take single
> frames
> > >> >off.
> > >> >> A few of mine are at http://www.djh.ukjournalists.co.uk/fish.htm
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Hi Steve,
> > >> >
> > >> >That's a good idea, and your images look good too! ...if only I had
a
> > >> >digital video camera! :-)
> > >> >
> > >> >Thanks for sharing,
> > >> >
> > >> >Stephen
> > >> >
> > >> Mine were hit and miss, but I did get some good ones.
> > >> http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/index.html
> > >>
> > >> Azul
> > >
> > >Hi Azul,
> > >
> > >You did get some good ones, and nice fish too! I like the names of
them,
> > >like Electrolux and Hoover! :-)
> > >
> > >I noticed that you have sand in your tank, is this okay with the fish,
do
> > >they ever try and eat it? I've noticed that the fish in my tank
> sometimes
> > >try and eat the gravel, and I've seen them pick bits up and spit them
> back
> > >out before. I was thinking of going to the coast and picking some
small
> > >pebbles from a beach and using this instead, just so that it's too big
> for
> > >them to try and eat. But I'll see how it goes.
> > >
> > >Stephen
> > >
> > Be very careful with the pebbles. The mouthing of sand/gravel is
> > normal for the fish, and they are not always smart enough to know what
> > they can handle. Sometimes they will get a rock stuck in their mouth,
> > and it is up to you to get it out, this can be traumatic, best avoided
> > if possible.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > - Charles
> > -
> > -does not play well with others
>
>

Azul

January 15th 04, 11:45 PM

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:07:26 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:

>
>"Azul" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:40:41 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
>>
<BIG Snip>
>> >
>> >Thanks for sharing,
>> >
>> >Stephen
>> >
>> Mine were hit and miss, but I did get some good ones.
>> http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/index.html
>>
>> Azul
>
>Hi Azul,
>
>You did get some good ones, and nice fish too! I like the names of them,
>like Electrolux and Hoover! :-)
>
>I noticed that you have sand in your tank, is this okay with the fish, do
>they ever try and eat it? I've noticed that the fish in my tank sometimes
>try and eat the gravel, and I've seen them pick bits up and spit them back
>out before. I was thinking of going to the coast and picking some small
>pebbles from a beach and using this instead, just so that it's too big for
>them to try and eat. But I'll see how it goes.
>
>Stephen

I got my sand from the Building Box, it is play sand and was heat
treated to sterilize it. The fish constantly search in the sand for
food and mine move the sand around like crazy. They seem to
move it to the back of the tank for some reason. Teddy made himself a
hollow to sleep in for a while, then he started hooking himself under
a branch of the driftwood that is just over the bubble wand. He had
some floating problems for a few weeks after that massive power outage
we had. I took a picture of him sleeping like that. I'll try to get
the pic up on the site this weekend.

Azul

ste mc ©

January 16th 04, 12:28 PM

Hi there,

I finally got around to sorting through the blurred photos, and I've
uploaded a few to my webspace. Not the best photos in the world, but armed
with the tips from the group, I should be able to get better and better.
....well, that's the plan anyway! :-)

http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/a.jpg - This is a photo of one of my fish (yet to
give it a name) having a poo! By the way, if they have a line of it coming
out like that, is this normal? And should I just leave it to fall of
naturally, as it does?

http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/b.jpg - This is a photo of Fred, a Blackmoor (?),
grazing in the fake grass.

http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/c.jpg - This is another photo of a nameless fish,
swimming by the fake log. The black marks on its side are just colouring,
and not any infection or disease.

http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/d.jpg - This is the same fish coming to
investigate the camera!

http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/e.jpg - And the same fish yet again, what a poser!
:-)

http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/f.jpg - And this is the other fish, still got the
poo hanging from its butt! :-)

http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/g.jpg - This is Freda, swimming above the fake
log.

http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/h.jpg - And another photo of another fish,
probably the one that was having a poo! :-)

http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/i.jpg - This is another closeup of the poser fish!
:-)

http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/j.jpg - This is an unusual shot of Fred, our
Blackmoor. It's taken from the side, and you can see his eye sticking out
the socket! 8-)

http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/k.jpg - And another one of Fred the Blackmoor.

http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/l.jpg - This is a photo of my aquarium, taken with
a 2 second shutter speed I think, hence the blurred movements of the fish.
I'd like to experiment with shots like this, as I reckon I can get some
interesting results, particularly with a burst of flash to freeze some
movement.

And that's it! :-) Apart from the fact that my fish are fantails, I don't
know what types they are, or what sexes they are. If anyone can tell from
the photos, please let me know.

Thanks,

Stephen

ste mc ©

January 16th 04, 12:32 PM

"Gunther" > wrote in message
t...
>
> You might try getting up with your fish in the morning.
> Goldfish's eyes take a long time to adjust to light in the
> morning. I have my tanks on timers, and when the light first
> kicks on, they remain stationary for the first 10-15 minutes.
> I've been able to get a shot or two then.
> Of course, you don't get more than one pose, but at least
> your chances of focus are better. :)
>
> I just posted one to alt.binaries.aquaria, subj = "Pepper in Profile"
>
> Gunther

Hi Gunther, thanks for the tip. The problem is that I'm not really a
morning person! :-) I also have my tank on timers, but I'm normally out the
house before the light comes on because I'm rushing to go to work. But I'll
try and get up early one weekend and try my luck.

Thanks for posting your photo, but unfortunately, my news server doesn't
carry that group. :-( Feel free to post it elsewhere though, or email me a
copy if you want! :-)

Thanks,

Stephen

ste mc ©

January 16th 04, 12:33 PM

Hi Mel,

I've never noticed that my fish every stop moving! :-) I'll keep an eye on
them at the next feed.

Thanks,

Stephen

"Mel" > wrote in message
...
> I find that taking photos is easiest right after they have been fed and
are
> chewing their pellets up. They don't tend to move for a good 5 mins then!
> Mel.
>
> "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Charles" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 20:53:49 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi there,
> > > >
> > > >I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your
aquariums
> > and
> > > >fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take a few
> > shots
> > > >of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that the
fish
> > > >never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I don't
> want
> > to
> > > >use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just bounce
off
> > the
> > > >glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what I can
> > come
> > > >up with.
> > > >
> > > >In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you have
got!
> > :-)
> > > >
> > > >Take care,
> > > >
> > > >Stephen
> > > >
> > > Take lots of pictures and delete the bad ones. I have never seen any
> > > effect of flash on the fish, they seem to ignore it. Shoot at an
> > > angle so the flash reflection does not come straight back to the
> > > camera. Expect a LOT of bad pictures, sometimes good ones happen.
> > >
> > > A google search for aquarium photography will give you many results.
> > >
> > > There is a group, alt.binaries.aquaria, for pictures of this sort, it
> > > is not carried by all news servers though.
> > >
> > > - Charles
> >
> >
> > Hi Charles,
> >
> > I took about 100 photos last night, and it was tough, as you say! I got
> > about 20 shots that were in focus, and of those, only about 10 shots
were
> > decent, ie, never had a fishes head or tail chopped off or something!
> > That's a bad ratio of good to bad images! :-)
> >
> > I did use the flash in the end, and my luck did improve. Thankfully,
and
> as
> > you say, my fish didn't seem affected by it, so that's a relief. If it
> was
> > causing them to panic or swim frantically, I would have stopped, but
they
> > seemed normal. Some fish were even swimming up towards to camera to
> > investigate! :-)
> >
> > The main problem is that the fish never stop moving, so it makes it
> > difficult to focus on them. I've got quite a good digital camera, a
Canon
> > PowerShot G5, but it's not in the same league as a digital SLR. My
> > autofocus is way too slow to catch a fish, and the manual focus is quite
> hit
> > and miss because I can only look on an LCD to see if it's in focus, and
> it's
> > very small - so what looks in focus on the small screen, might be out of
> > focus on the computer screen. :-( I'd like to buy a digital SLR with
> proper
> > lenses later this year, but that's for another newsgroup... :-) Any
> > photography buffs here? :-)
> >
> > Without the flash, I was shooting using a high ISO to get a decent
shutter
> > speed and reduce blurry images, but the photos were very noisy, so best
> > using flash and ISO 50.
> >
> > I take my photos as Canon RAW files, so I haven't yet converted them to
> > JPEG's and uploaded them to my webspace - it was quite late last night
> when
> > I was doing this! But I'll upload them this evening and post the links
> > here. I hope to get better images in future, so practice will hopefully
> > make perfect!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
>
>

ste mc ©

January 16th 04, 01:03 PM

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:07:26 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Azul" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:40:41 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Steve" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >>
> >> >> "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > Hi there,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your
> >aquariums
> >> >and
> >> >> > fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take a
few
> >> >> shots
> >> >> > of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that the
> >fish
> >> >> > never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I
don't
> >want
> >> >> to
> >> >> > use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just bounce
> >off
> >> >the
> >> >> > glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what I
can
> >> >come
> >> >> > up with.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you have
> >got!
> >> >:-)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Take care,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Stephen
> >> >> >
> >> >> I use my dig video camera then when I edit the film, take single
frames
> >> >off.
> >> >> A few of mine are at http://www.djh.ukjournalists.co.uk/fish.htm
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hi Steve,
> >> >
> >> >That's a good idea, and your images look good too! ...if only I had a
> >> >digital video camera! :-)
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for sharing,
> >> >
> >> >Stephen
> >> >
> >> Mine were hit and miss, but I did get some good ones.
> >> http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/index.html
> >>
> >> Azul
> >
> >Hi Azul,
> >
> >You did get some good ones, and nice fish too! I like the names of them,
> >like Electrolux and Hoover! :-)
> >
> >I noticed that you have sand in your tank, is this okay with the fish, do
> >they ever try and eat it? I've noticed that the fish in my tank
sometimes
> >try and eat the gravel, and I've seen them pick bits up and spit them
back
> >out before. I was thinking of going to the coast and picking some small
> >pebbles from a beach and using this instead, just so that it's too big
for
> >them to try and eat. But I'll see how it goes.
> >
> >Stephen
> >
> Be very careful with the pebbles. The mouthing of sand/gravel is
> normal for the fish, and they are not always smart enough to know what
> they can handle. Sometimes they will get a rock stuck in their mouth,
> and it is up to you to get it out, this can be traumatic, best avoided
> if possible.
>
> Charles

Hi Charles,

An aquarium without pebbles in the bottom is, to me, like dog without a
bone! :-) I've always seen aquariums with them in, even in aquatic shops.
But I take your point about things getting stuck in their mouths, and I have
already got rid of some of the smallest pebbles.

Stephen

ste mc ©

January 16th 04, 01:05 PM

Hi Tammy,

I couldn't imagine an aquarium without these small pebbles, as it's what I'm
used to. And surely, there's less chance of a fish eating these than there
is of sand of fine gravel?

I understand what you are saying about using stones from other water, but
before I put anything else in my tank, I'd be sure to sterilise it and make
sure it's not dissolvable.

Stephen

"LoaderLady" > wrote in message
. ..
> I would avoid using pebbles anyways. I don't think it's a good idea to
use
> stones, etc., from water which contains fish since you don't know what
> you'll be bringing home with the rocks. IMO, of course.
>
> I have sand as well, "concrete sand" from a gravel pit, but I know the
sand
> came from a pond which doesn't have fish (it's a fairly new pond). I have
> used regular rocks in tanks, too, but they are not from a river -
actually,
> I got most of them from a potato field. I work the potato harvest in the
> fall, and I kept some interesting rocks I took off the grader. They've
been
> in my tank for a while with no problems. And, yes I did the vinegar test
> first (put a drop of vinegar on the rock to see if it fizzes - if it does,
> don't use).
>
> Just my 2 cents...
>
> --
> }<> Tammy <>{
> Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store
from
> this address:
> http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
> purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project
>
> Watkins Business Opportunity
> www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
> Me and my fish Thank You!!
> "Charles" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:07:26 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Azul" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:40:41 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >"Steve" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
> > >> >> ...
> > >> >> > Hi there,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your
> > >aquariums
> > >> >and
> > >> >> > fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to take
a
> few
> > >> >> shots
> > >> >> > of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that
the
> > >fish
> > >> >> > never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I
> don't
> > >want
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> > use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just
bounce
> > >off
> > >> >the
> > >> >> > glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see what
I
> can
> > >> >come
> > >> >> > up with.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you
have
> > >got!
> > >> >:-)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Take care,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Stephen
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> I use my dig video camera then when I edit the film, take single
> frames
> > >> >off.
> > >> >> A few of mine are at http://www.djh.ukjournalists.co.uk/fish.htm
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Hi Steve,
> > >> >
> > >> >That's a good idea, and your images look good too! ...if only I had
a
> > >> >digital video camera! :-)
> > >> >
> > >> >Thanks for sharing,
> > >> >
> > >> >Stephen
> > >> >
> > >> Mine were hit and miss, but I did get some good ones.
> > >> http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/index.html
> > >>
> > >> Azul
> > >
> > >Hi Azul,
> > >
> > >You did get some good ones, and nice fish too! I like the names of
them,
> > >like Electrolux and Hoover! :-)
> > >
> > >I noticed that you have sand in your tank, is this okay with the fish,
do
> > >they ever try and eat it? I've noticed that the fish in my tank
> sometimes
> > >try and eat the gravel, and I've seen them pick bits up and spit them
> back
> > >out before. I was thinking of going to the coast and picking some
small
> > >pebbles from a beach and using this instead, just so that it's too big
> for
> > >them to try and eat. But I'll see how it goes.
> > >
> > >Stephen
> > >
> > Be very careful with the pebbles. The mouthing of sand/gravel is
> > normal for the fish, and they are not always smart enough to know what
> > they can handle. Sometimes they will get a rock stuck in their mouth,
> > and it is up to you to get it out, this can be traumatic, best avoided
> > if possible.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > - Charles
> > -
> > -does not play well with others
>
>

ste mc ©

January 16th 04, 01:06 PM

Hi Mel,

I'd rather not pull a moony, thanks very much! :-) I know it's easier to
clean the glass bottom tanks, and I have seen a few of them like that, but I
prefer a tank to have at least something in the bottom, just to it looks how
I imagine the sea to look, if you know what I mean.

Stephen

"Mel" > wrote in message
...
> Or just go bare bottom..(the tank that is and not yourself!) - so much
> easier to clean!
> Mel.
>
> "LoaderLady" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > I would avoid using pebbles anyways. I don't think it's a good idea to
> use
> > stones, etc., from water which contains fish since you don't know what
> > you'll be bringing home with the rocks. IMO, of course.
> >
> > I have sand as well, "concrete sand" from a gravel pit, but I know the
> sand
> > came from a pond which doesn't have fish (it's a fairly new pond). I
have
> > used regular rocks in tanks, too, but they are not from a river -
> actually,
> > I got most of them from a potato field. I work the potato harvest in
the
> > fall, and I kept some interesting rocks I took off the grader. They've
> been
> > in my tank for a while with no problems. And, yes I did the vinegar
test
> > first (put a drop of vinegar on the rock to see if it fizzes - if it
does,
> > don't use).
> >
> > Just my 2 cents...
> >
> > --
> > }<> Tammy <>{
> > Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store
> from
> > this address:
> > http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
> > purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project
> >
> > Watkins Business Opportunity
> > www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
> > Me and my fish Thank You!!
> > "Charles" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:07:26 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >"Azul" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:40:41 -0000, "ste mc ©" >
wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >"Steve" > wrote in message
> > > >> ...
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
> > > >> >> ...
> > > >> >> > Hi there,
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > I was just curious to know if any of you have photos of your
> > > >aquariums
> > > >> >and
> > > >> >> > fish to share? I've got a digital camera and was going to
take
> a
> > few
> > > >> >> shots
> > > >> >> > of mine then upload them to my web space. The problem is that
> the
> > > >fish
> > > >> >> > never stop moving, so all my photos have been blurred! And I
> > don't
> > > >want
> > > >> >> to
> > > >> >> > use the flash in case it scares the fish, and it would just
> bounce
> > > >off
> > > >> >the
> > > >> >> > glass anyway. I'll try using a higher ISO setting and see
what
> I
> > can
> > > >> >come
> > > >> >> > up with.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > In the meantime, I'll look forward to seeing what any of you
> have
> > > >got!
> > > >> >:-)
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Take care,
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Stephen
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> I use my dig video camera then when I edit the film, take single
> > frames
> > > >> >off.
> > > >> >> A few of mine are at http://www.djh.ukjournalists.co.uk/fish.htm
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Hi Steve,
> > > >> >
> > > >> >That's a good idea, and your images look good too! ...if only I
had
> a
> > > >> >digital video camera! :-)
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Thanks for sharing,
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Stephen
> > > >> >
> > > >> Mine were hit and miss, but I did get some good ones.
> > > >> http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/index.html
> > > >>
> > > >> Azul
> > > >
> > > >Hi Azul,
> > > >
> > > >You did get some good ones, and nice fish too! I like the names of
> them,
> > > >like Electrolux and Hoover! :-)
> > > >
> > > >I noticed that you have sand in your tank, is this okay with the
fish,
> do
> > > >they ever try and eat it? I've noticed that the fish in my tank
> > sometimes
> > > >try and eat the gravel, and I've seen them pick bits up and spit them
> > back
> > > >out before. I was thinking of going to the coast and picking some
> small
> > > >pebbles from a beach and using this instead, just so that it's too
big
> > for
> > > >them to try and eat. But I'll see how it goes.
> > > >
> > > >Stephen
> > > >
> > > Be very careful with the pebbles. The mouthing of sand/gravel is
> > > normal for the fish, and they are not always smart enough to know what
> > > they can handle. Sometimes they will get a rock stuck in their mouth,
> > > and it is up to you to get it out, this can be traumatic, best avoided
> > > if possible.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > - Charles
> > > -
> > > -does not play well with others
> >
> >
>
>

ste mc ©

January 16th 04, 01:22 PM

"Azul" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:07:26 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Azul" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:40:41 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
> >>
> <BIG Snip>
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for sharing,
> >> >
> >> >Stephen
> >> >
> >> Mine were hit and miss, but I did get some good ones.
> >> http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/index.html
> >>
> >> Azul
> >
> >Hi Azul,
> >
> >You did get some good ones, and nice fish too! I like the names of them,
> >like Electrolux and Hoover! :-)
> >
> >I noticed that you have sand in your tank, is this okay with the fish, do
> >they ever try and eat it? I've noticed that the fish in my tank
sometimes
> >try and eat the gravel, and I've seen them pick bits up and spit them
back
> >out before. I was thinking of going to the coast and picking some small
> >pebbles from a beach and using this instead, just so that it's too big
for
> >them to try and eat. But I'll see how it goes.
> >
> >Stephen
>
> I got my sand from the Building Box, it is play sand and was heat
> treated to sterilize it. The fish constantly search in the sand for
> food and mine move the sand around like crazy. They seem to
> move it to the back of the tank for some reason. Teddy made himself a
> hollow to sleep in for a while, then he started hooking himself under
> a branch of the driftwood that is just over the bubble wand. He had
> some floating problems for a few weeks after that massive power outage
> we had. I took a picture of him sleeping like that. I'll try to get
> the pic up on the site this weekend.
>
>
>
> Azul

Hi Azul,

I like the idea of using sand in the bottom of the tank, and it sounds like
great fun to watch them moving it around, if mine do the same of course! :-)
How do you sterilise it? Put it in boiling water? Or add some chemical to
it? Be sure to email me or post any nice photos you get.

Stephen

Geezer From Freezer

January 16th 04, 02:09 PM

Sand is not a good idea really. It can wear on the fishs mouths. It can also
house
anaerobic bacteria (deadly). Play sand contains high level of silicates which
will cause
a bloom of diatoms (brown algae) in the tank!

Mel

January 16th 04, 04:32 PM

The photos are great! I like the fish who's having a poo, she/he's really
pretty.
Mel.

"ste mc ©" > wrote in message
...
> Hi there,
>
> I finally got around to sorting through the blurred photos, and I've
> uploaded a few to my webspace. Not the best photos in the world, but
armed
> with the tips from the group, I should be able to get better and better.
> ...well, that's the plan anyway! :-)
>
> http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/a.jpg - This is a photo of one of my fish (yet
to
> give it a name) having a poo! By the way, if they have a line of it coming
> out like that, is this normal? And should I just leave it to fall of
> naturally, as it does?
>
> http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/b.jpg - This is a photo of Fred, a Blackmoor
(?),
> grazing in the fake grass.
>
> http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/c.jpg - This is another photo of a nameless
fish,
> swimming by the fake log. The black marks on its side are just colouring,
> and not any infection or disease.
>
> http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/d.jpg - This is the same fish coming to
> investigate the camera!
>
> http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/e.jpg - And the same fish yet again, what a
poser!
> :-)
>
> http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/f.jpg - And this is the other fish, still got
the
> poo hanging from its butt! :-)
>
> http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/g.jpg - This is Freda, swimming above the fake
> log.
>
> http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/h.jpg - And another photo of another fish,
> probably the one that was having a poo! :-)
>
> http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/i.jpg - This is another closeup of the poser
fish!
> :-)
>
> http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/j.jpg - This is an unusual shot of Fred, our
> Blackmoor. It's taken from the side, and you can see his eye sticking out
> the socket! 8-)
>
> http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/k.jpg - And another one of Fred the Blackmoor.
>
> http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/l.jpg - This is a photo of my aquarium, taken
with
> a 2 second shutter speed I think, hence the blurred movements of the fish.
> I'd like to experiment with shots like this, as I reckon I can get some
> interesting results, particularly with a burst of flash to freeze some
> movement.
>
> And that's it! :-) Apart from the fact that my fish are fantails, I don't
> know what types they are, or what sexes they are. If anyone can tell from
> the photos, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stephen
>
>

ste mc ©

January 16th 04, 04:39 PM

Thanks Mel :-) How can I tell if it's a he or she, and do you know what
type of fish I've got?

Stephen

"Mel" > wrote in message
...
> The photos are great! I like the fish who's having a poo, she/he's really
> pretty.
> Mel.
>
>
> "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I finally got around to sorting through the blurred photos, and I've
> > uploaded a few to my webspace. Not the best photos in the world, but
> armed
> > with the tips from the group, I should be able to get better and better.
> > ...well, that's the plan anyway! :-)
> >
> > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/a.jpg - This is a photo of one of my fish (yet
> to
> > give it a name) having a poo! By the way, if they have a line of it
coming
> > out like that, is this normal? And should I just leave it to fall of
> > naturally, as it does?
> >
> > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/b.jpg - This is a photo of Fred, a Blackmoor
> (?),
> > grazing in the fake grass.
> >
> > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/c.jpg - This is another photo of a nameless
> fish,
> > swimming by the fake log. The black marks on its side are just
colouring,
> > and not any infection or disease.
> >
> > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/d.jpg - This is the same fish coming to
> > investigate the camera!
> >
> > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/e.jpg - And the same fish yet again, what a
> poser!
> > :-)
> >
> > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/f.jpg - And this is the other fish, still got
> the
> > poo hanging from its butt! :-)
> >
> > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/g.jpg - This is Freda, swimming above the fake
> > log.
> >
> > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/h.jpg - And another photo of another fish,
> > probably the one that was having a poo! :-)
> >
> > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/i.jpg - This is another closeup of the poser
> fish!
> > :-)
> >
> > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/j.jpg - This is an unusual shot of Fred, our
> > Blackmoor. It's taken from the side, and you can see his eye sticking
out
> > the socket! 8-)
> >
> > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/k.jpg - And another one of Fred the Blackmoor.
> >
> > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/l.jpg - This is a photo of my aquarium, taken
> with
> > a 2 second shutter speed I think, hence the blurred movements of the
fish.
> > I'd like to experiment with shots like this, as I reckon I can get some
> > interesting results, particularly with a burst of flash to freeze some
> > movement.
> >
> > And that's it! :-) Apart from the fact that my fish are fantails, I
don't
> > know what types they are, or what sexes they are. If anyone can tell
from
> > the photos, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
>
>

ste mc ©

January 16th 04, 04:41 PM

Hi Gezzer,

It sounds as though the best and most problem-free solution is to have a
bare bottom tank! The thing is, although I've seen examples of these that
look great, I'd personally like mine to have at least something on the
bottom. I'll stick with the small pebbles for now, and perhaps keep on the
lookout for some larger pebbles that can be sterilised, and that are too big
to fix in a fishes mouth.

Stephen

"Geezer From Freezer" > wrote in message
...
> Sand is not a good idea really. It can wear on the fishs mouths. It can
also
> house
> anaerobic bacteria (deadly). Play sand contains high level of silicates
which
> will cause
> a bloom of diatoms (brown algae) in the tank!

Gunther

January 16th 04, 08:06 PM

In article >,
says...
>

> Hi Gunther, thanks for the tip. The problem is that I'm not really a
> morning person! :-) I also have my tank on timers, but I'm normally out the
> house before the light comes on because I'm rushing to go to work. But I'll
> try and get up early one weekend and try my luck.
>
> Thanks for posting your photo, but unfortunately, my news server doesn't
> carry that group. :-( Feel free to post it elsewhere though, or email me a
> copy if you want! :-)

Old pix, plus two new ones at http://thenwi.com/~gunther
G

ste mc ©

January 16th 04, 10:44 PM

"Gunther" > wrote in message
t...
| In article >,
| says...
| >
|
| > Hi Gunther, thanks for the tip. The problem is that I'm not really a
| > morning person! :-) I also have my tank on timers, but I'm normally out
the
| > house before the light comes on because I'm rushing to go to work. But
I'll
| > try and get up early one weekend and try my luck.
| >
| > Thanks for posting your photo, but unfortunately, my news server doesn't
| > carry that group. :-( Feel free to post it elsewhere though, or email
me a
| > copy if you want! :-)
|
| Old pix, plus two new ones at http://thenwi.com/~gunther
| G

Hi Gunther, some nice photos there, and I really liked your 55 gallon tank
in particular! I see that I'm not the only person who has fish with no
names! :-)

Thanks for sharing,

Stephen

Azul

January 17th 04, 02:12 AM

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:22:30 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:

>
>"Azul" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:07:26 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Azul" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:40:41 -0000, "ste mc ©" > wrote:
>> >>
>> <BIG Snip>
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks for sharing,
>> >> >
>> >> >Stephen
>> >> >
<Big Snip again>
>
>Hi Azul,
>
>I like the idea of using sand in the bottom of the tank, and it sounds like
>great fun to watch them moving it around, if mine do the same of course! :-)
>How do you sterilise it? Put it in boiling water? Or add some chemical to
>it? Be sure to email me or post any nice photos you get.
>
>Stephen
>
I bought it that way. This was sand to be used in a child's sand box,
so I guess they thought it would be better if it had been sterilized.
It was heat treated, that is what the bag says. Chemicals might hurt
the fish. The bag also said good for aquariums on it.

I will try to get the new photos up on the weekend. I got a 30G tank
for Mother's Day and I don't think I ever put it on my site.

Azul

Gunther

January 17th 04, 06:06 AM

In article >, says...
> Sand is not a good idea really. It can wear on the fishs mouths. It can also
> house
> anaerobic bacteria (deadly). Play sand contains high level of silicates which
> will cause
> a bloom of diatoms (brown algae) in the tank!
>

Where is this info from?

Mel

January 17th 04, 09:44 PM

It is difficult to tell whether they are male and female, especially if they
are quite young which I think yours are? You can sometimes tell by looking
at their anus (poor things might get paranoid though so make it quick!).
Girls anus's generally stick out a little more (nothing new there) than the
boys whose are slightly indented.
As for types of fish, the white one (doing the poo) looks like an oranda
(given lots of protein in her diet and good water she should get some head
growth).
Fred could be a black moore, although his eyes aren't quite as big as I'd
expect them to be. Perhaps he's a cross, or a telescope? Not sure there.
The nameless fish(the poser) looks like a comet and Freda looks like an
oranda I think.
Mel.

"ste mc ©" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Mel :-) How can I tell if it's a he or she, and do you know what
> type of fish I've got?
>
> Stephen
>
>
> "Mel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The photos are great! I like the fish who's having a poo, she/he's
really
> > pretty.
> > Mel.
> >
> >
> > "ste mc ©" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I finally got around to sorting through the blurred photos, and I've
> > > uploaded a few to my webspace. Not the best photos in the world, but
> > armed
> > > with the tips from the group, I should be able to get better and
better.
> > > ...well, that's the plan anyway! :-)
> > >
> > > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/a.jpg - This is a photo of one of my fish
(yet
> > to
> > > give it a name) having a poo! By the way, if they have a line of it
> coming
> > > out like that, is this normal? And should I just leave it to fall of
> > > naturally, as it does?
> > >
> > > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/b.jpg - This is a photo of Fred, a Blackmoor
> > (?),
> > > grazing in the fake grass.
> > >
> > > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/c.jpg - This is another photo of a nameless
> > fish,
> > > swimming by the fake log. The black marks on its side are just
> colouring,
> > > and not any infection or disease.
> > >
> > > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/d.jpg - This is the same fish coming to
> > > investigate the camera!
> > >
> > > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/e.jpg - And the same fish yet again, what a
> > poser!
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/f.jpg - And this is the other fish, still
got
> > the
> > > poo hanging from its butt! :-)
> > >
> > > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/g.jpg - This is Freda, swimming above the
fake
> > > log.
> > >
> > > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/h.jpg - And another photo of another fish,
> > > probably the one that was having a poo! :-)
> > >
> > > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/i.jpg - This is another closeup of the poser
> > fish!
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/j.jpg - This is an unusual shot of Fred, our
> > > Blackmoor. It's taken from the side, and you can see his eye sticking
> out
> > > the socket! 8-)
> > >
> > > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/k.jpg - And another one of Fred the
Blackmoor.
> > >
> > > http://www.sm9.co.uk/fish/l.jpg - This is a photo of my aquarium,
taken
> > with
> > > a 2 second shutter speed I think, hence the blurred movements of the
> fish.
> > > I'd like to experiment with shots like this, as I reckon I can get
some
> > > interesting results, particularly with a burst of flash to freeze some
> > > movement.
> > >
> > > And that's it! :-) Apart from the fact that my fish are fantails, I
> don't
> > > know what types they are, or what sexes they are. If anyone can tell
> from
> > > the photos, please let me know.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Geezer From Freezer

January 19th 04, 01:30 PM

Gunther wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> > Sand is not a good idea really. It can wear on the fishs mouths. It can also
> > house
> > anaerobic bacteria (deadly). Play sand contains high level of silicates which
> > will cause
> > a bloom of diatoms (brown algae) in the tank!
> >
>
> Where is this info from?

Gunther,

I was doing some research on diatoms about 3 months ago, on the web, and
found that some sands contain high levels of silicates, especially play sand!

ste mc ©

January 20th 04, 12:35 AM

ste mc ©

January 20th 04, 12:38 AM

Geezer From Freezer

January 20th 04, 09:26 AM

"ste mc =A9" wrote:
> =

> Hi Mel, I think mine are quite young as they're only 2 or 3 inches long=

> (including the tail). I looked at some similar fish in an aquatic shot=
at
> the weekend, and they were massive in comparison, about 6 or 7 inches l=
ong!
> Is it true what they say about goldfish, that they will grow depending =
on
> the size of the tank they're in? I hope to get a better idea of sexing=
them
> as they grow older, as it all looks the same to me now!
> =

> Thanks for having a go at figuring out what types of fish I've got, I'l=
l
> have a read up and see what I can find out.

Steve,

Goldfish that "grow to the size of the tank" are usually stunted as a res=
ult of
not enough
space - this will shorten their lifespan. Sexing fish isn't to bad. Usual=
ly (but
not always)
the female is large (and normally rounder). Males have tubercules that gr=
ow on
the front
edge of their pectoral fins and on their gill plates. When they reach mat=
urity
males chase females
nudging the underside of their belly (near the anal port). Sometimes male=
s will
chase males too
to show who is the "master of the tank" :D

ste mc ©

January 20th 04, 12:18 PM

"Geezer From Freezer" > wrote in message
...

"ste mc ©" wrote:
>
> Hi Mel, I think mine are quite young as they're only 2 or 3 inches long
> (including the tail). I looked at some similar fish in an aquatic shot at
> the weekend, and they were massive in comparison, about 6 or 7 inches
long!
> Is it true what they say about goldfish, that they will grow depending on
> the size of the tank they're in? I hope to get a better idea of sexing
them
> as they grow older, as it all looks the same to me now!
>
> Thanks for having a go at figuring out what types of fish I've got, I'll
> have a read up and see what I can find out.

| Steve,
|
| Goldfish that "grow to the size of the tank" are usually stunted as a
result of
| not enough
| space - this will shorten their lifespan. Sexing fish isn't to bad.
Usually (but
| not always)
| the female is large (and normally rounder). Males have tubercules that
grow on
| the front
| edge of their pectoral fins and on their gill plates. When they reach
maturity
| males chase females
| nudging the underside of their belly (near the anal port). Sometimes males
will
| chase males too
| to show who is the "master of the tank" :D

Hi there,

I know people say '1 fish per 10 gallons,' but I prefer the other saying,
which is '1 inch of fish per gallon,' as written in sites like this:
http://www.geocities.com/shtinkythefish/stocking.htm

'1 fish per 10 gallons' doesn't account for how big the fish is - the fish
could be a few inches long, or it could be 10 inches long, and this is
important, in my opinion. Wheras the '1 inch of fish per gallon' accounts
more for the size of the fish too. At the weekend, I went into a dodgy
aquatic shop, and they had a really big fish on its own in an aquarium, and
it barely had room to turn around - this probably obided by the '1 fish per
10 gallons' rule, but it was obviously wrong. I felt so sorry for it.

I'll have a closer look at my fish to try and see what sex they are, but as
I'm new to fish-keeping, my eye isn't quite trained yet! :-)

Thanks,

Stephen