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Azul
January 19th 04, 02:21 AM
I did my regular tank cleaning yesterday and noticed that Flipper was
red all around the mouth as if it had lipstick. I cleaned the tank and
did a good 50% water changed. Added just the regular AquaPlus for the
chlorine and heavy metals. This morning there is no change, but now
Hoover looks like he has dropped a couple of scales on his cheek and
it is starting to turn red. The other fish in the tank is Electrolux
and so far he seems fine. All the fish are acting normal and eating
well.

Any ideas?

Azul

Donald Kerns
January 19th 04, 02:53 AM
Azul wrote:

> I did my regular tank cleaning yesterday and noticed that Flipper was
> red all around the mouth as if it had lipstick. I cleaned the tank and
> did a good 50% water changed. Added just the regular AquaPlus for the
> chlorine and heavy metals. This morning there is no change, but now
> Hoover looks like he has dropped a couple of scales on his cheek and
> it is starting to turn red. The other fish in the tank is Electrolux
> and so far he seems fine. All the fish are acting normal and eating
> well.
>
> Any ideas?

get pH readings of your tap water and the tank. They may have changed
their water source on you.

Measurements? NH3, NO2, NO3, etc, etc, You know the drill Azul...

-D
--
"Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving
that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the
proof." -Galbraith's Law

January 19th 04, 04:20 AM
red around the mouth is often columnaris. do you have PP?
http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#POTASSIUM
water changes, add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons, no additives, dissolve first, add
slowly. red on a fish is a sign of infection. Ingrid

Azul > wrote:

>I did my regular tank cleaning yesterday and noticed that Flipper was
>red all around the mouth as if it had lipstick. I cleaned the tank and
>did a good 50% water changed. Added just the regular AquaPlus for the
>chlorine and heavy metals. This morning there is no change, but now
>Hoover looks like he has dropped a couple of scales on his cheek and
>it is starting to turn red. The other fish in the tank is Electrolux
>and so far he seems fine. All the fish are acting normal and eating
>well.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Azul



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T
January 19th 04, 04:30 AM
Electrolux.. must be a pl*co.. I found these guys are the least suceptable
to sickness etc...

Tim


> wrote in message
...
> red around the mouth is often columnaris. do you have PP?
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#POTASSIUM
> water changes, add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons, no additives, dissolve
first, add
> slowly. red on a fish is a sign of infection. Ingrid
>
> Azul > wrote:
>
> >I did my regular tank cleaning yesterday and noticed that Flipper was
> >red all around the mouth as if it had lipstick. I cleaned the tank and
> >did a good 50% water changed. Added just the regular AquaPlus for the
> >chlorine and heavy metals. This morning there is no change, but now
> >Hoover looks like he has dropped a couple of scales on his cheek and
> >it is starting to turn red. The other fish in the tank is Electrolux
> >and so far he seems fine. All the fish are acting normal and eating
> >well.
> >
> >Any ideas?
> >
> >Azul
>
>
>
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> endorsements or recommendations I make.

Donald Kerns
January 19th 04, 07:12 AM
No, Electrolux is a goldie. Tank mate of Titleist IRC.

There are pictures on the web someplace...

Yup, here we are...
"http://groups.google.com/groups?q=titleist+electrolux+goldfish&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=05lu5v44radcjgo00720l0lkp8ftcd2opa%404ax.com&rnum=1"
http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/Hoover.html
http://www.sentex.net/~eamoe/OurSite/Our_Fish.html

Man... Remembering people's fish names for almost a year...

Do I need to get a life or what?

In my defense, they are _uniquely_ named...

-Donald


T wrote:

> Electrolux.. must be a pl*co.. I found these guys are the least
> suceptable to sickness etc...
>
> Tim
>
>
>> Azul > wrote:
>>
The other fish in the tank is
>> >Electrolux
>> >and so far he seems fine. All the fish are acting normal and eating
>> >well.

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that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the
proof." -Galbraith's Law

Azul
January 19th 04, 12:06 PM
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 04:30:29 GMT, "T" > wrote:

>Electrolux.. must be a pl*co.. I found these guys are the least suceptable
>to sickness etc...
>
>Tim
Electrolux is a fat and sassy Moor. LOL!!
No pl*cos in any of my tanks.

Azul

Azul
January 20th 04, 12:46 AM
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:53:47 -0800, Donald Kerns
> wrote:

>Azul wrote:
>
>> I did my regular tank cleaning yesterday and noticed that Flipper was
>> red all around the mouth as if it had lipstick. I cleaned the tank and
>> did a good 50% water changed. Added just the regular AquaPlus for the
>> chlorine and heavy metals. This morning there is no change, but now
>> Hoover looks like he has dropped a couple of scales on his cheek and
>> it is starting to turn red. The other fish in the tank is Electrolux
>> and so far he seems fine. All the fish are acting normal and eating
>> well.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
>get pH readings of your tap water and the tank. They may have changed
>their water source on you.
>
>Measurements? NH3, NO2, NO3, etc, etc, You know the drill Azul...
>
>-D
I checked it all and all is normal.

0 - nh3
0 - no2
less than 3 no3

I had just done the water change.

I started them on a regime of Tri-Sulfa which is a broad spectrum
antibiotic. If there is no improvement, I'll go to the gram negative
specific.

Azul

Azul
January 20th 04, 12:49 AM
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 04:20:39 GMT, wrote:

>red around the mouth is often columnaris. do you have PP?
>http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#POTASSIUM
>water changes, add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons, no additives, dissolve first, add
>slowly. red on a fish is a sign of infection. Ingrid
>
>Azul > wrote:
>
>>I did my regular tank cleaning yesterday and noticed that Flipper was
>>red all around the mouth as if it had lipstick. I cleaned the tank and
>>did a good 50% water changed. Added just the regular AquaPlus for the
>>chlorine and heavy metals. This morning there is no change, but now
>>Hoover looks like he has dropped a couple of scales on his cheek and
>>it is starting to turn red. The other fish in the tank is Electrolux
>>and so far he seems fine. All the fish are acting normal and eating
>>well.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>Azul
>
I have not been able to find a pharmacy that even knows what PP is,
much less sells it in small amounts. I could get a large tin at the
farm store for $40, but then what do I do with the rest.

I started with Tri-Sulfa in the hopes it would help. I'm also feeding
antibiotic food, but it is not romet B. Can't seem to find a place
that sells that up here.

Azul

January 20th 04, 04:48 PM
forget pharmacy. find water conditioning company. or even science store. ahhhh...
well it is wonderful for treating ponds, useful for disinfecting nets and other
aquarium stuff and if you ever get athletes foot... it is old remedy. Ingrid

Azul > wrote:
>I have not been able to find a pharmacy that even knows what PP is,
>much less sells it in small amounts. I could get a large tin at the
>farm store for $40, but then what do I do with the rest.
>
>I started with Tri-Sulfa in the hopes it would help. I'm also feeding
>antibiotic food, but it is not romet B. Can't seem to find a place
>that sells that up here.
>
>Azul



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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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endorsements or recommendations I make.

Azul
January 21st 04, 12:28 AM
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:48:08 GMT, wrote:

>forget pharmacy. find water conditioning company. or even science store. ahhhh...
>well it is wonderful for treating ponds, useful for disinfecting nets and other
>aquarium stuff and if you ever get athletes foot... it is old remedy. Ingrid
>
>Azul > wrote:
>>I have not been able to find a pharmacy that even knows what PP is,
>>much less sells it in small amounts. I could get a large tin at the
>>farm store for $40, but then what do I do with the rest.
>>
>>I started with Tri-Sulfa in the hopes it would help. I'm also feeding
>>antibiotic food, but it is not romet B. Can't seem to find a place
>>that sells that up here.
>>
>>Azul
>
Thank Ingrid, I'll keep that in mind.

The tri-sulfa seems to be working. Flipper is sporting less lipstick
and Hoover's red spot is much less red. Did a 25% water change
this evening and now start day 3 of the meds.

Azul