persistent white cloudyness in a cycled tank

[MartinOsirus]

Have a 50 gal with a few goldfish - previously had an ?ich outbreak or
something and used quick cure for 5 days- fed antibiotic food - and used
spectrogram antibiiotic in the water - but only 1 or 2 doses
Anyway - the previous fish died and now have new fish.
Tank is cycled as indicated by outbreak of brown algae ( also added biospira)
Problem is persistent white cloudyness with outbreak of brown algae on floor
(barebottom)and on glass sides. Daily water changes( 30 -40 %) help only a
little
Have 3 filters running - so excellent filtration. Have cleaned sponges.
Questions: - is this due to the prior chemicals?
Is the aeration ( bubblewand and small powerhead) affected and contaminating
the water?
Do I need to run a diatom filter?
Do I need to take fish out and drain clean and fill the entire tank?
many thanks
Ira

[Toni]

"MartinOsirus" > wrote in message
...
> Problem is persistent white cloudyness with outbreak of brown algae on
floor
> (barebottom)and on glass sides. Daily water changes( 30 -40 %) help only a
> little
> Have 3 filters running - so excellent filtration. Have cleaned sponges.
> Questions: - is this due to the prior chemicals?
> Is the aeration ( bubblewand and small powerhead) affected and
contaminating
> the water?
> Do I need to run a diatom filter?
> Do I need to take fish out and drain clean and fill the entire tank?


Boy you get around...

My Goldie tank is overfiltered and gets cloudy very often as
well.
I couldn't figure it out until I ran a diatom filter on it for a
few hours- the "muck" was bright green when I cleaned the
filter! All I have is a bloom of algae in my water column-
unattractive but not a problem. It appeared white visually while
in suspension but was most definitely green- smelled just like
wheatgrass juice!
I've cut back a tad on feeding to eliminate excess nutrients,
and cut back on lighting a bit also.
The problem (in my case anyway) is a barebottom tank that I keep
way too spotless- I believe that if I could tolerate leaving one
pane of glass algae covered it would help tremendously. I do
have a few plants in there but all are very slow growing and so
do not help much with the algae.

Just my experience...

Toni
http://www.cearbhaill.com/goldfish.htm

[Janie Thomson]

"Toni" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
>
> "MartinOsirus" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Problem is persistent white cloudyness with outbreak of brown algae on
> floor
> > (barebottom)and on glass sides. Daily water changes( 30 -40 %) help only
a
> > little
> > Have 3 filters running - so excellent filtration. Have cleaned sponges.
> > Questions: - is this due to the prior chemicals?
> > Is the aeration ( bubblewand and small powerhead) affected and
> contaminating
> > the water?
> > Do I need to run a diatom filter?
> > Do I need to take fish out and drain clean and fill the entire tank?
>
>
> Boy you get around...
>
> My Goldie tank is overfiltered and gets cloudy very often as
> well.
> I couldn't figure it out until I ran a diatom filter on it for a
> few hours- the "muck" was bright green when I cleaned the
> filter! All I have is a bloom of algae in my water column-
> unattractive but not a problem. It appeared white visually while
> in suspension but was most definitely green- smelled just like
> wheatgrass juice!

Yep, that concurs with my recent experience. Despite doing partial water
changes every couple of days, within 24 hours the water looked like milk and
I could hardly see the fish. Water removed was green, and lots of green
crud in the filter.

> I've cut back a tad on feeding to eliminate excess nutrients,
> and cut back on lighting a bit also.

Lighting seems to be the cause for me. The tank was set up at the arse end
of last year, when there wasn't much light about in the UK, and the algae
bloom coincided (I worked out eventually) with the days starting to get
longer again. Once the penny dropped, I switched the tank lights off for a
few days, did a partial water change (about 30% was all it took for me), and
plugged the lights back into their timer with reduced "on" time. It's been
fine since.


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Janie
http://www.janie-thomson.co.uk
http://www.tomomusic.com

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persistent cloudiness is almost always biobugs looking for a home. you need more
biofilter media in the filters you got or you are too rough cleaning the sponges
(what kind of filters?) quit with the daily water changes. instead make sure you
got good hardness and bring temp up to 75oF. what is the powwerhead for?
leave the brown algae alone. keep the aeration going but I would turn off the
powerhead. it moves the water in the wrong direction.
keep an eye on the pH and nitrates. Ingrid

(MartinOsirus) wrote:

>Have a 50 gal with a few goldfish - previously had an ?ich outbreak or
>something and used quick cure for 5 days- fed antibiotic food - and used
>spectrogram antibiiotic in the water - but only 1 or 2 doses
>Anyway - the previous fish died and now have new fish.
>Tank is cycled as indicated by outbreak of brown algae ( also added biospira)
>Problem is persistent white cloudyness with outbreak of brown algae on floor
>(barebottom)and on glass sides. Daily water changes( 30 -40 %) help only a
>little
>Have 3 filters running - so excellent filtration. Have cleaned sponges.
>Questions: - is this due to the prior chemicals?
>Is the aeration ( bubblewand and small powerhead) affected and contaminating
>the water?
>Do I need to run a diatom filter?
>Do I need to take fish out and drain clean and fill the entire tank?
>many thanks
>Ira



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