Cher has a zit

[Dark Phoenix]

No, this isn't celebrity spam- last night when I came home, Cher the
shubunkin had a volcano on her side, spewing white yuck. It didn't inhibite
her usual piggy feeding. This AM, the volcano is still visible as a
swelling, but it is no longer spewing. It's the only spot on her, the other
three fish are fine, water perameters fine although due for a change today
just because it's when I usually do it.

Is this "pimple" a dangerous thing? do I treat it with something (something
I'm sure to not have here at home)? Do I squeeze it? (just kidding there)
Will the other fish make fun of her?

And an aside- Melafix seems to be mostly tea tree oil, which I DO have here
at home. Can it be used in a pinch?

Thanks much!

--
Laurie, Dark Phoenix

Here I am! Now, what were your other two wishes?

[Dark Phoenix]

"Dark Phoenix" > wrote in message
...
> No, this isn't celebrity spam- last night when I came home, Cher the
> shubunkin had a volcano on her side, spewing white yuck. It didn't
inhibite
> her usual piggy feeding. This AM, the volcano is still visible as a
> swelling, but it is no longer spewing. It's the only spot on her, the
other
> three fish are fine, water perameters fine although due for a change today
> just because it's when I usually do it.
>
> Is this "pimple" a dangerous thing? do I treat it with something
(something
> I'm sure to not have here at home)? Do I squeeze it? (just kidding there)
> Will the other fish make fun of her?

This PM- I went and got some Melafix, because I was worried that I needed to
do something. The LFS woman told me this was a fine thing, and to not just
put it in the water, but to capture the fish and put a drop of it on the
sore.

So, after doing a water change and putting inthe Melafix, I did this.

Now poor Cher is sitting on the bottom with her fins clamped. I've never
seen this before, but it's sure unmistakable. Before doing this, she wasn't
as sprightly as last night or even this morning, but not sitting clamped.
She looks miserable. Whoops- she just got up and started eating something on
the plant. But her fins are still clamped.

Was this a stupid thing to do? And- this may be the problem- I didn't shake
the bottle thoroughly before getting the drop out to put on Cher. Since it
seems to be an oil/water suspension, this probably resulted in the drop
being higher strenght than if I'd shook it better. (I'd shook it some, but
not till frothy)

HELP! Have I killed my favorite fish???? Is there anything I can do?

--
Laurie, Dark Phoenix

Here I am! Now, what were your other two wishes?

[Donald K]

Dark Phoenix wrote:

> This PM- I went and got some Melafix, because I was worried that I
> needed to do something. The LFS woman told me this was a fine thing,
> and to not just put it in the water, but to capture the fish and put a
> drop of it on the sore.

Doh!

[stepping aside the debate on tea tree oil for treating goldfish]

If you had gone to the work to catch the fish, a topical antibiotic
ointment (neosporin, et al) probably would have been better...

-D
--
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
enough people to make it worth the effort." -Herm Albright

[[email protected]]

melafix is precisely the wrong thing to put on a wound at this stage.
move the fish to a bowl of the tank water and gently express any pus, clean with
peroxide and rub some triple antibiotic creme into the area and return to the tank,
add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons, no additives, dissolve first, add slowly.
now. this is from the inside out, so get some antibiotic food. romet B is best,
order it online. or, get kanamycin, mix with a tablespoon of water, soak a bit of
food in it and feed to the fish. this can also be put into the water. but you
definitely want to feed antibiotics for a couple weeks minimum.
continue with antibiotic creme, you dont want the wound to close until it is healing
from the inside out or bacteria will be trapped inside. Ingrid

"Dark Phoenix" > wrote:

>
>"Dark Phoenix" > wrote in message
...
>> No, this isn't celebrity spam- last night when I came home, Cher the
>> shubunkin had a volcano on her side, spewing white yuck. It didn't
>inhibite
>> her usual piggy feeding. This AM, the volcano is still visible as a
>> swelling, but it is no longer spewing. It's the only spot on her, the
>other
>> three fish are fine, water perameters fine although due for a change today
>> just because it's when I usually do it.
>>
>> Is this "pimple" a dangerous thing? do I treat it with something
>(something
>> I'm sure to not have here at home)? Do I squeeze it? (just kidding there)
>> Will the other fish make fun of her?
>
>This PM- I went and got some Melafix, because I was worried that I needed to
>do something. The LFS woman told me this was a fine thing, and to not just
>put it in the water, but to capture the fish and put a drop of it on the
>sore.
>
>So, after doing a water change and putting inthe Melafix, I did this.
>
>Now poor Cher is sitting on the bottom with her fins clamped. I've never
>seen this before, but it's sure unmistakable. Before doing this, she wasn't
>as sprightly as last night or even this morning, but not sitting clamped.
>She looks miserable. Whoops- she just got up and started eating something on
>the plant. But her fins are still clamped.
>
>Was this a stupid thing to do? And- this may be the problem- I didn't shake
>the bottle thoroughly before getting the drop out to put on Cher. Since it
>seems to be an oil/water suspension, this probably resulted in the drop
>being higher strenght than if I'd shook it better. (I'd shook it some, but
>not till frothy)
>
>HELP! Have I killed my favorite fish???? Is there anything I can do?



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[Dark Phoenix]

> wrote in message
...
> melafix is precisely the wrong thing to put on a wound at this stage.
> move the fish to a bowl of the tank water and gently express any pus,
clean with
> peroxide and rub some triple antibiotic creme into the area and return to
the tank,
> add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons, no additives, dissolve first, add
slowly.
> now. this is from the inside out, so get some antibiotic food. romet B
is best,
> order it online. or, get kanamycin, mix with a tablespoon of water, soak
a bit of
> food in it and feed to the fish. this can also be put into the water.
but you
> definitely want to feed antibiotics for a couple weeks minimum.
> continue with antibiotic creme, you dont want the wound to close until it
is healing
> from the inside out or bacteria will be trapped inside. Ingrid
>

Well, bugger all. I do have antibiotic creme- for humans- right here.

I was told at one store they couldn't any listing for antibiotic feed (I
even gave them the name Romet); the other store said that they were not
allowed to sell antibiotic feed anymore because of the shelf life, making it
sound like some kind of government reg. So I gave up on that.

Hmm.. I can't get back into town for a few days; would maracyn-two work in
the feed?

Glad to report that Cher is much better. After an hour or so of lurking on
the bottom with her dorsal flat, she started swimming around and her dorsal
came up. When I walked up to the tank to look closer, she sank to the bottom
and clamped her fins, giving me the "I HATE you" look. By dinner time, she
was all over, eating like her usual piggy self, shoving Morticia out of the
way. This AM, the swelling is down quite a bit- about half the size it was.
At the moment, she is ripping some anacaris apart.

Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help,

--
Laurie, Dark Phoenix

Here I am! Now, what were your other two wishes?

[[email protected]]

you can probably get kanamycin.

"Dark Phoenix" > wrote:
>Well, bugger all. I do have antibiotic creme- for humans- right here.
>
>I was told at one store they couldn't any listing for antibiotic feed (I
>even gave them the name Romet); the other store said that they were not
>allowed to sell antibiotic feed anymore because of the shelf life, making it
>sound like some kind of government reg. So I gave up on that.
>
>Hmm.. I can't get back into town for a few days; would maracyn-two work in
>the feed?
>
>Glad to report that Cher is much better. After an hour or so of lurking on
>the bottom with her dorsal flat, she started swimming around and her dorsal
>came up. When I walked up to the tank to look closer, she sank to the bottom
>and clamped her fins, giving me the "I HATE you" look. By dinner time, she
>was all over, eating like her usual piggy self, shoving Morticia out of the
>way. This AM, the swelling is down quite a bit- about half the size it was.
>At the moment, she is ripping some anacaris apart.
>
>Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help,



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Tom La Bron]

Dark Phoenix,

You need to get yourself a DrsFosterSmith.com aquatic catalog. Romet is not
generally available. It is an antibiotic food used in the Aquaculture
community and generally unavailable to the general public without knowing
exactly where to buy it from and usually you have to buy it in 5 or 10 pound
bags/containers. The other thing you have to remember, that Ingrid either
doesn't know or doesn't tell people, is that there are two Romets, one is
Romet B and the other is Romet 30; they are similar but different.

As a general medicated food, Medigold is a good food that can be obtained
from Rick Hess's Goldfishconnection.com. It is a very good food.

HTH

Tom L.L.
==================================
"Dark Phoenix" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > melafix is precisely the wrong thing to put on a wound at this stage.
> > move the fish to a bowl of the tank water and gently express any pus,
> clean with
> > peroxide and rub some triple antibiotic creme into the area and return
to
> the tank,
> > add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons, no additives, dissolve first, add
> slowly.
> > now. this is from the inside out, so get some antibiotic food. romet B
> is best,
> > order it online. or, get kanamycin, mix with a tablespoon of water,
soak
> a bit of
> > food in it and feed to the fish. this can also be put into the water.
> but you
> > definitely want to feed antibiotics for a couple weeks minimum.
> > continue with antibiotic creme, you dont want the wound to close until
it
> is healing
> > from the inside out or bacteria will be trapped inside. Ingrid
> >
>
> Well, bugger all. I do have antibiotic creme- for humans- right here.
>
> I was told at one store they couldn't any listing for antibiotic feed (I
> even gave them the name Romet); the other store said that they were not
> allowed to sell antibiotic feed anymore because of the shelf life, making
it
> sound like some kind of government reg. So I gave up on that.
>
> Hmm.. I can't get back into town for a few days; would maracyn-two work in
> the feed?
>
> Glad to report that Cher is much better. After an hour or so of lurking on
> the bottom with her dorsal flat, she started swimming around and her
dorsal
> came up. When I walked up to the tank to look closer, she sank to the
bottom
> and clamped her fins, giving me the "I HATE you" look. By dinner time, she
> was all over, eating like her usual piggy self, shoving Morticia out of
the
> way. This AM, the swelling is down quite a bit- about half the size it
was.
> At the moment, she is ripping some anacaris apart.
>
> Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help,
>
> --
> Laurie, Dark Phoenix
>
> Here I am! Now, what were your other two wishes?
>
>
>

[Dark Phoenix]

"Tom La Bron" > wrote in message
...
> Dark Phoenix,
>
> You need to get yourself a DrsFosterSmith.com aquatic catalog. Romet is
not
> generally available. It is an antibiotic food used in the Aquaculture
> community and generally unavailable to the general public without knowing
> exactly where to buy it from and usually you have to buy it in 5 or 10
pound
> bags/containers. The other thing you have to remember, that Ingrid either
> doesn't know or doesn't tell people, is that there are two Romets, one is
> Romet B and the other is Romet 30; they are similar but different.
>
> As a general medicated food, Medigold is a good food that can be obtained
> from Rick Hess's Goldfishconnection.com. It is a very good food.

Yeesh, sure hope the Romet has a good shelf life- 5 or 10 lbs?!?! Sturgeon
size servings! I'll get myself one of those catalogs, tho.

I got into town today and got some Kanacyn and gave the fish a dose in the
food. The swelling is down some more today; I have hopes of a full recovery
now. (was panicked) Of course, the stop at the fish store led to the
purchase of another barb, too... sigh...

Thanks,

--
Laurie, Dark Phoenix

Here I am! Now, what were your other two wishes?

[[email protected]]

you can get romet in small amounts from Ken.
Ingrid

"Dark Phoenix" > wrote:
>Yeesh, sure hope the Romet has a good shelf life- 5 or 10 lbs?!?! Sturgeon
>size servings! I'll get myself one of those catalogs, tho.
>
>I got into town today and got some Kanacyn and gave the fish a dose in the
>food. The swelling is down some more today; I have hopes of a full recovery
>now. (was panicked) Of course, the stop at the fish store led to the
>purchase of another barb, too... sigh...
>
>Thanks,



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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[Donald K]

I've also got an inquiry in at Lambria...

They don't list it, but I've had good luck with them "going the extra
mile."

-D

wrote:

> you can get romet in small amounts from Ken.
> Ingrid
>
> "Dark Phoenix" > wrote:
>>Yeesh, sure hope the Romet has a good shelf life- 5 or 10 lbs?!?!
>>Sturgeon size servings! I'll get myself one of those catalogs, tho.
>

--
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
enough people to make it worth the effort." -Herm Albright

[Dark Phoenix]

Cher is erupting again!!!! The lump had been going down a little every day,
now there is white goo starting to come out of the hole again!! Is this
normal for something that's healing, or????? (she's still on the Kanacyn,
still acting normal, same piggy self)

Panic setting in again,

--
Laurie, Dark Phoenix

Here I am! Now, what were your other two wishes?

[[email protected]]

white goo is the white blood cells dying while they consume the bacteria. clean it
with a bit of peroxide on a qtip and dab some antibiotic creme on it. otherwise,
salt in the water, not melafix. you dont want it healing over, you want it draining
and dont squeeze it too hard either. keep feeding antibiotic food. Ingrid

"Dark Phoenix" > wrote:

>Cher is erupting again!!!! The lump had been going down a little every day,
>now there is white goo starting to come out of the hole again!! Is this
>normal for something that's healing, or????? (she's still on the Kanacyn,
>still acting normal, same piggy self)
>
>Panic setting in again,



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.