white spots on hood only

[K. Sher]

Hi,

I bought three 3-3.5 inch orandas about a month ago, and since then they've
been developing white spots on their hoods. They are in a 29 gallon tank
with an undergravel filter along with one other 2 inch black moor. I am
quite new to goldfish keeping so I am not sure what this disease could be.

On one of them, the white spots started to spread, and one morning I looked,
and part of the "skin" on the fish's hood was gone! It looked sort of like
an orangy mass of cauliflower that had been exposed. I took that fish back
to the shop, and hopefully it will be cured. The problem is, my two other
fish are starting to get the white spots as well. I have asked people and
they tell me different things, from fungus to ammonia burns. Right now I
have the tank on Melafix for the last 4 days, and I change the water twice a
week, using Start right for the new water. The two fish have a healthy
appetite, no clamped fins or other usual signs of stress. The black moor
shows no signs of these white spots. The white spots are limited to the hood
of the orandas, but I am noticing a bit of reddish color now. I took a
water sample to the local fish store, and they told me it was "fine", and
told me most of their fish have what they call ammonia burns and that it
will go away eventually. Is this true, or do my fish have fungus?

Thanks for any advice

[Mel]

Sounds like normal wen growth to me. Orandas develop a wen or headgrowth
which does look sort of cauliflowery or like a brain. It's completely normal
and good wen growth is usually sought after amongst owners. The white spots
form as the wen is growing and usually disappear after a few days. They are
caused by particles of dirt getting trapped as the wen grows and as long as
the water is good which it sounds like yours is, there is nothing to worry
about. The reason your moore hasn't got the white bits is because they don't
develop wens.
Hope this puts your mind at rest :O)
Mel.

"K. Sher" > wrote in message
news:RFZ1c.680927$JQ1.110413@pd7tw1no...
> Hi,
>
> I bought three 3-3.5 inch orandas about a month ago, and since then
they've
> been developing white spots on their hoods. They are in a 29 gallon tank
> with an undergravel filter along with one other 2 inch black moor. I am
> quite new to goldfish keeping so I am not sure what this disease could be.
>
> On one of them, the white spots started to spread, and one morning I
looked,
> and part of the "skin" on the fish's hood was gone! It looked sort of like
> an orangy mass of cauliflower that had been exposed. I took that fish
back
> to the shop, and hopefully it will be cured. The problem is, my two other
> fish are starting to get the white spots as well. I have asked people and
> they tell me different things, from fungus to ammonia burns. Right now I
> have the tank on Melafix for the last 4 days, and I change the water twice
a
> week, using Start right for the new water. The two fish have a healthy
> appetite, no clamped fins or other usual signs of stress. The black moor
> shows no signs of these white spots. The white spots are limited to the
hood
> of the orandas, but I am noticing a bit of reddish color now. I took a
> water sample to the local fish store, and they told me it was "fine", and
> told me most of their fish have what they call ammonia burns and that it
> will go away eventually. Is this true, or do my fish have fungus?
>
> Thanks for any advice
>
>

[Geezer From Freezer]

On another note, get your own testing kits. Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and PH
are the most important.
Also remember to give each of your goldies 10 gallons per fish!

[K. Sher]

The oranda had a headgrowth already, but there was something wrong with the
surface of it. I guess the white spots are normal then I have nothing to
worry about since the fish with the exposed headgrowth was brought back to
the store. Is there anyway to cure or get rid of the spots?
I read in another post that I should use peroxide with a q-tip but I am not
sure how I am supposed to hold down the fish. With my hands? That can't be
good for them :P

"Mel" > wrote in message
...
> Sounds like normal wen growth to me. Orandas develop a wen or headgrowth
> which does look sort of cauliflowery or like a brain. It's completely
normal
> and good wen growth is usually sought after amongst owners. The white
spots
> form as the wen is growing and usually disappear after a few days. They
are
> caused by particles of dirt getting trapped as the wen grows and as long
as
> the water is good which it sounds like yours is, there is nothing to worry
> about. The reason your moore hasn't got the white bits is because they
don't
> develop wens.
> Hope this puts your mind at rest :O)
> Mel.
>
> "K. Sher" > wrote in message
> news:RFZ1c.680927$JQ1.110413@pd7tw1no...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I bought three 3-3.5 inch orandas about a month ago, and since then
> they've
> > been developing white spots on their hoods. They are in a 29 gallon tank
> > with an undergravel filter along with one other 2 inch black moor. I am
> > quite new to goldfish keeping so I am not sure what this disease could
be.
> >
> > On one of them, the white spots started to spread, and one morning I
> looked,
> > and part of the "skin" on the fish's hood was gone! It looked sort of
like
> > an orangy mass of cauliflower that had been exposed. I took that fish
> back
> > to the shop, and hopefully it will be cured. The problem is, my two
other
> > fish are starting to get the white spots as well. I have asked people
and
> > they tell me different things, from fungus to ammonia burns. Right now I
> > have the tank on Melafix for the last 4 days, and I change the water
twice
> a
> > week, using Start right for the new water. The two fish have a healthy
> > appetite, no clamped fins or other usual signs of stress. The black moor
> > shows no signs of these white spots. The white spots are limited to the
> hood
> > of the orandas, but I am noticing a bit of reddish color now. I took a
> > water sample to the local fish store, and they told me it was "fine",
and
> > told me most of their fish have what they call ammonia burns and that it
> > will go away eventually. Is this true, or do my fish have fungus?
> >
> > Thanks for any advice
> >
> >
>
>

[Dark Phoenix]

"K. Sher" > wrote in message
news:RFZ1c.680927$JQ1.110413@pd7tw1no...
<very large snip> I took a water sample to the local fish store, and they
told me it was "fine", and
> told me most of their fish have what they call ammonia burns and that it
> will go away eventually. Is this true, or do my fish have fungus?
>
Most of their fish have ammonia burns?!?! I don't think I'd trust those guys
very much....


--
Laurie, Dark Phoenix

Here I am! Now, what were your other two wishes?

[Mel]

The headgrowth on orandas grows constantly like our finger nails so you'll
keep getting the white bits. When you say there was something wrong witht he
surface of it what do you mean?
The spots will disappear on their own within a day or two but if you'd like
you can dab a bit of peroxide on them although you must make sure you don't
get any near their gills or eyes.Just hold them gently but firmly over their
tank or over a little bowl of tank water just in case they wriggle free. If
it is just normal head growth though I really wouldn't bother swabbing them.
Mel.


"K. Sher" > wrote in message
news:Vc82c.714660$ts4.522096@pd7tw3no...
> The oranda had a headgrowth already, but there was something wrong with
the
> surface of it. I guess the white spots are normal then I have nothing to
> worry about since the fish with the exposed headgrowth was brought back to
> the store. Is there anyway to cure or get rid of the spots?
> I read in another post that I should use peroxide with a q-tip but I am
not
> sure how I am supposed to hold down the fish. With my hands? That can't be
> good for them :P
>
> "Mel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Sounds like normal wen growth to me. Orandas develop a wen or headgrowth
> > which does look sort of cauliflowery or like a brain. It's completely
> normal
> > and good wen growth is usually sought after amongst owners. The white
> spots
> > form as the wen is growing and usually disappear after a few days. They
> are
> > caused by particles of dirt getting trapped as the wen grows and as long
> as
> > the water is good which it sounds like yours is, there is nothing to
worry
> > about. The reason your moore hasn't got the white bits is because they
> don't
> > develop wens.
> > Hope this puts your mind at rest :O)
> > Mel.
> >
> > "K. Sher" > wrote in message
> > news:RFZ1c.680927$JQ1.110413@pd7tw1no...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I bought three 3-3.5 inch orandas about a month ago, and since then
> > they've
> > > been developing white spots on their hoods. They are in a 29 gallon
tank
> > > with an undergravel filter along with one other 2 inch black moor. I
am
> > > quite new to goldfish keeping so I am not sure what this disease could
> be.
> > >
> > > On one of them, the white spots started to spread, and one morning I
> > looked,
> > > and part of the "skin" on the fish's hood was gone! It looked sort of
> like
> > > an orangy mass of cauliflower that had been exposed. I took that fish
> > back
> > > to the shop, and hopefully it will be cured. The problem is, my two
> other
> > > fish are starting to get the white spots as well. I have asked people
> and
> > > they tell me different things, from fungus to ammonia burns. Right now
I
> > > have the tank on Melafix for the last 4 days, and I change the water
> twice
> > a
> > > week, using Start right for the new water. The two fish have a healthy
> > > appetite, no clamped fins or other usual signs of stress. The black
moor
> > > shows no signs of these white spots. The white spots are limited to
the
> > hood
> > > of the orandas, but I am noticing a bit of reddish color now. I took
a
> > > water sample to the local fish store, and they told me it was "fine",
> and
> > > told me most of their fish have what they call ammonia burns and that
it
> > > will go away eventually. Is this true, or do my fish have fungus?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any advice
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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what are your water parameters? you need to go to http://puregold.aquaria.net/
and in the care section read up on essentials.
you have too many fish in too little water and the undergravel filter is less than
ideal. get rid of the melafix and just use a bit of salt, 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons.
start doing water changes every day. I am down at Jo Ann's (the GF Guru) right now
on vacation and dont have the emergency list... could somebody repost that please?
INgrid


"K. Sher" > wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I bought three 3-3.5 inch orandas about a month ago, and since then they've
>been developing white spots on their hoods. They are in a 29 gallon tank
>with an undergravel filter along with one other 2 inch black moor. I am
>quite new to goldfish keeping so I am not sure what this disease could be.
>
>On one of them, the white spots started to spread, and one morning I looked,
>and part of the "skin" on the fish's hood was gone! It looked sort of like
>an orangy mass of cauliflower that had been exposed. I took that fish back
>to the shop, and hopefully it will be cured. The problem is, my two other
>fish are starting to get the white spots as well. I have asked people and
>they tell me different things, from fungus to ammonia burns. Right now I
>have the tank on Melafix for the last 4 days, and I change the water twice a
>week, using Start right for the new water. The two fish have a healthy
>appetite, no clamped fins or other usual signs of stress. The black moorA
>shows no signs of these white spots. The white spots are limited to the hood
>of the orandas, but I am noticing a bit of reddish color now. I took a
>water sample to the local fish store, and they told me it was "fine", and
>told me most of their fish have what they call ammonia burns and that it
>will go away eventually. Is this true, or do my fish have fungus?
>
>Thanks for any advice
>



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