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wintering link to zones with names
Would it be unreasonable to have a pond in Zone 4a or 4b
and expect fish to survive in winter? I live in Montreal Canada, my feeling is I need a pond at least 4ft deep. Is there info or a table that suggests what depth your pond should be depending on the zone your in? ....Kodiak "Mickey" wrote in message ... If you are talking Canada you are closer to a zone 2. Zone 5 is going through the center of the USA. Here is a link with a few names for reference http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/hrdzon3.html "Axolotl" wrote in message . 130... ESPMER (K30a) wrote in : Scott wrote Should I disconnect my filter for the winter, or keep it running? I was planning to keep it, until I read the statement above. You'll find a lot of people do different things ;-) The bio bugs won't be 'working' in cold water and the fish won't be producing much, if any, waste so there is no need to filter a winter pond. Everybody kind of goes into a stupor for the winter. Keeping water running, as in a waterfall or fountain, can sometimes be dicey. If things start to freeze sometimes the water can freeze in such a way as to direct water away from the pond. More so in a waterfall than a fountain. Another theory to keep the pump off is that the water movement from the pump to the fountain or waterfall, there and back again, is making a current for the fish to swim against when they'd rather just lay there, slowly finning their fins. Water movement makes them work harder and use up energy they'd rather put to keeping some weight on them over the winter. But, all that said, there are rec.ponders who keep their pump running and their waterfall going all winter. And all goes well, no problems. Hi there, nice to see you back K30a. I am not sure what zone I am in, Colour coded maps are not much use to somebody whose colour blind. I am in Mississauga, just west of Toronto, so I think I am in zone 5 (5a). In the past I have disconnected from the waterfalls and redirected the flow to a standpipe over the pond, this keeps an opening in the ice, adds oxygen and provides the local wildlife a source of water in the winter. However, I wonder if this is the best approach, I keep seeing people recommending a bubbler, I tried this one winter but the air pump died within 2 weeks. What depth should the air-stone be set to? TIA AXO |
wintering link to zones with names
Would it be unreasonable to have a pond in Zone 4a or 4b
and expect fish to survive in winter? I live in Montreal Canada, my feeling is I need a pond at least 4ft deep. Is there info or a table that suggests what depth your pond should be depending on the zone your in? ....Kodiak "Mickey" wrote in message ... If you are talking Canada you are closer to a zone 2. Zone 5 is going through the center of the USA. Here is a link with a few names for reference http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/hrdzon3.html "Axolotl" wrote in message . 130... ESPMER (K30a) wrote in : Scott wrote Should I disconnect my filter for the winter, or keep it running? I was planning to keep it, until I read the statement above. You'll find a lot of people do different things ;-) The bio bugs won't be 'working' in cold water and the fish won't be producing much, if any, waste so there is no need to filter a winter pond. Everybody kind of goes into a stupor for the winter. Keeping water running, as in a waterfall or fountain, can sometimes be dicey. If things start to freeze sometimes the water can freeze in such a way as to direct water away from the pond. More so in a waterfall than a fountain. Another theory to keep the pump off is that the water movement from the pump to the fountain or waterfall, there and back again, is making a current for the fish to swim against when they'd rather just lay there, slowly finning their fins. Water movement makes them work harder and use up energy they'd rather put to keeping some weight on them over the winter. But, all that said, there are rec.ponders who keep their pump running and their waterfall going all winter. And all goes well, no problems. Hi there, nice to see you back K30a. I am not sure what zone I am in, Colour coded maps are not much use to somebody whose colour blind. I am in Mississauga, just west of Toronto, so I think I am in zone 5 (5a). In the past I have disconnected from the waterfalls and redirected the flow to a standpipe over the pond, this keeps an opening in the ice, adds oxygen and provides the local wildlife a source of water in the winter. However, I wonder if this is the best approach, I keep seeing people recommending a bubbler, I tried this one winter but the air pump died within 2 weeks. What depth should the air-stone be set to? TIA AXO |
wintering link to zones with names
You can contact people such a local builder and find out what you frost line
is. I live in Minnesota 45 minutes west of Minneapolis/St.Paul my depth just to get under the frost line is 48". I would assume you would want to go deeper for warmer bottom water. "Kodiak" wrote in message ... Would it be unreasonable to have a pond in Zone 4a or 4b and expect fish to survive in winter? I live in Montreal Canada, my feeling is I need a pond at least 4ft deep. Is there info or a table that suggests what depth your pond should be depending on the zone your in? ...Kodiak "Mickey" wrote in message ... If you are talking Canada you are closer to a zone 2. Zone 5 is going through the center of the USA. Here is a link with a few names for reference http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/hrdzon3.html "Axolotl" wrote in message . 130... ESPMER (K30a) wrote in : Scott wrote Should I disconnect my filter for the winter, or keep it running? I was planning to keep it, until I read the statement above. You'll find a lot of people do different things ;-) The bio bugs won't be 'working' in cold water and the fish won't be producing much, if any, waste so there is no need to filter a winter pond. Everybody kind of goes into a stupor for the winter. Keeping water running, as in a waterfall or fountain, can sometimes be dicey. If things start to freeze sometimes the water can freeze in such a way as to direct water away from the pond. More so in a waterfall than a fountain. Another theory to keep the pump off is that the water movement from the pump to the fountain or waterfall, there and back again, is making a current for the fish to swim against when they'd rather just lay there, slowly finning their fins. Water movement makes them work harder and use up energy they'd rather put to keeping some weight on them over the winter. But, all that said, there are rec.ponders who keep their pump running and their waterfall going all winter. And all goes well, no problems. Hi there, nice to see you back K30a. I am not sure what zone I am in, Colour coded maps are not much use to somebody whose colour blind. I am in Mississauga, just west of Toronto, so I think I am in zone 5 (5a). In the past I have disconnected from the waterfalls and redirected the flow to a standpipe over the pond, this keeps an opening in the ice, adds oxygen and provides the local wildlife a source of water in the winter. However, I wonder if this is the best approach, I keep seeing people recommending a bubbler, I tried this one winter but the air pump died within 2 weeks. What depth should the air-stone be set to? TIA AXO |
wintering link to zones with names
You can contact people such a local builder and find out what you frost line
is. I live in Minnesota 45 minutes west of Minneapolis/St.Paul my depth just to get under the frost line is 48". I would assume you would want to go deeper for warmer bottom water. "Kodiak" wrote in message ... Would it be unreasonable to have a pond in Zone 4a or 4b and expect fish to survive in winter? I live in Montreal Canada, my feeling is I need a pond at least 4ft deep. Is there info or a table that suggests what depth your pond should be depending on the zone your in? ...Kodiak "Mickey" wrote in message ... If you are talking Canada you are closer to a zone 2. Zone 5 is going through the center of the USA. Here is a link with a few names for reference http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/hrdzon3.html "Axolotl" wrote in message . 130... ESPMER (K30a) wrote in : Scott wrote Should I disconnect my filter for the winter, or keep it running? I was planning to keep it, until I read the statement above. You'll find a lot of people do different things ;-) The bio bugs won't be 'working' in cold water and the fish won't be producing much, if any, waste so there is no need to filter a winter pond. Everybody kind of goes into a stupor for the winter. Keeping water running, as in a waterfall or fountain, can sometimes be dicey. If things start to freeze sometimes the water can freeze in such a way as to direct water away from the pond. More so in a waterfall than a fountain. Another theory to keep the pump off is that the water movement from the pump to the fountain or waterfall, there and back again, is making a current for the fish to swim against when they'd rather just lay there, slowly finning their fins. Water movement makes them work harder and use up energy they'd rather put to keeping some weight on them over the winter. But, all that said, there are rec.ponders who keep their pump running and their waterfall going all winter. And all goes well, no problems. Hi there, nice to see you back K30a. I am not sure what zone I am in, Colour coded maps are not much use to somebody whose colour blind. I am in Mississauga, just west of Toronto, so I think I am in zone 5 (5a). In the past I have disconnected from the waterfalls and redirected the flow to a standpipe over the pond, this keeps an opening in the ice, adds oxygen and provides the local wildlife a source of water in the winter. However, I wonder if this is the best approach, I keep seeing people recommending a bubbler, I tried this one winter but the air pump died within 2 weeks. What depth should the air-stone be set to? TIA AXO |
wintering link to zones with names
I am in S.E. Idaho/zone4 and have overwintered Koi and Goldfish
successfully for three winters, in a 1600 gallon, 2 1/2 ft. deep pond, using two airstones 3 or 4" below the surface. I have a large, clay chimney tile on the bottom for a winter home, but have no idea if they use it. deanna Kodiak wrote: Would it be unreasonable to have a pond in Zone 4a or 4b and expect fish to survive in winter? I live in Montreal Canada, my feeling is I need a pond at least 4ft deep. Is there info or a table that suggests what depth your pond should be depending on the zone your in? ...Kodiak "Mickey" wrote in message ... If you are talking Canada you are closer to a zone 2. Zone 5 is going through the center of the USA. Here is a link with a few names for reference http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/hrdzon3.html "Axolotl" wrote in message . 130... ESPMER (K30a) wrote in : Scott wrote Should I disconnect my filter for the winter, or keep it running? I was planning to keep it, until I read the statement above. You'll find a lot of people do different things ;-) The bio bugs won't be 'working' in cold water and the fish won't be producing much, if any, waste so there is no need to filter a winter pond. Everybody kind of goes into a stupor for the winter. Keeping water running, as in a waterfall or fountain, can sometimes be dicey. If things start to freeze sometimes the water can freeze in such a way as to direct water away from the pond. More so in a waterfall than a fountain. Another theory to keep the pump off is that the water movement from the pump to the fountain or waterfall, there and back again, is making a current for the fish to swim against when they'd rather just lay there, slowly finning their fins. Water movement makes them work harder and use up energy they'd rather put to keeping some weight on them over the winter. But, all that said, there are rec.ponders who keep their pump running and their waterfall going all winter. And all goes well, no problems. Hi there, nice to see you back K30a. I am not sure what zone I am in, Colour coded maps are not much use to somebody whose colour blind. I am in Mississauga, just west of Toronto, so I think I am in zone 5 (5a). In the past I have disconnected from the waterfalls and redirected the flow to a standpipe over the pond, this keeps an opening in the ice, adds oxygen and provides the local wildlife a source of water in the winter. However, I wonder if this is the best approach, I keep seeing people recommending a bubbler, I tried this one winter but the air pump died within 2 weeks. What depth should the air-stone be set to? TIA AXO |
wintering link to zones with names
I am in S.E. Idaho/zone4 and have overwintered Koi and Goldfish
successfully for three winters, in a 1600 gallon, 2 1/2 ft. deep pond, using two airstones 3 or 4" below the surface. I have a large, clay chimney tile on the bottom for a winter home, but have no idea if they use it. deanna Kodiak wrote: Would it be unreasonable to have a pond in Zone 4a or 4b and expect fish to survive in winter? I live in Montreal Canada, my feeling is I need a pond at least 4ft deep. Is there info or a table that suggests what depth your pond should be depending on the zone your in? ...Kodiak "Mickey" wrote in message ... If you are talking Canada you are closer to a zone 2. Zone 5 is going through the center of the USA. Here is a link with a few names for reference http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/hrdzon3.html "Axolotl" wrote in message . 130... ESPMER (K30a) wrote in : Scott wrote Should I disconnect my filter for the winter, or keep it running? I was planning to keep it, until I read the statement above. You'll find a lot of people do different things ;-) The bio bugs won't be 'working' in cold water and the fish won't be producing much, if any, waste so there is no need to filter a winter pond. Everybody kind of goes into a stupor for the winter. Keeping water running, as in a waterfall or fountain, can sometimes be dicey. If things start to freeze sometimes the water can freeze in such a way as to direct water away from the pond. More so in a waterfall than a fountain. Another theory to keep the pump off is that the water movement from the pump to the fountain or waterfall, there and back again, is making a current for the fish to swim against when they'd rather just lay there, slowly finning their fins. Water movement makes them work harder and use up energy they'd rather put to keeping some weight on them over the winter. But, all that said, there are rec.ponders who keep their pump running and their waterfall going all winter. And all goes well, no problems. Hi there, nice to see you back K30a. I am not sure what zone I am in, Colour coded maps are not much use to somebody whose colour blind. I am in Mississauga, just west of Toronto, so I think I am in zone 5 (5a). In the past I have disconnected from the waterfalls and redirected the flow to a standpipe over the pond, this keeps an opening in the ice, adds oxygen and provides the local wildlife a source of water in the winter. However, I wonder if this is the best approach, I keep seeing people recommending a bubbler, I tried this one winter but the air pump died within 2 weeks. What depth should the air-stone be set to? TIA AXO |
wintering link to zones with names
Nope.... he is indeed in zone 5 in Mississauga, ON which is in the Greater
Toronto area. Janet in Niagara Falls, ON Z6b "Mickey" wrote in message ... If you are talking Canada you are closer to a zone 2. Zone 5 is going through the center of the USA. Here is a link with a few names for reference http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/hrdzon3.html "Axolotl" wrote in message . 130... ESPMER (K30a) wrote in : Scott wrote Should I disconnect my filter for the winter, or keep it running? I was planning to keep it, until I read the statement above. You'll find a lot of people do different things ;-) The bio bugs won't be 'working' in cold water and the fish won't be producing much, if any, waste so there is no need to filter a winter pond. Everybody kind of goes into a stupor for the winter. Keeping water running, as in a waterfall or fountain, can sometimes be dicey. If things start to freeze sometimes the water can freeze in such a way as to direct water away from the pond. More so in a waterfall than a fountain. Another theory to keep the pump off is that the water movement from the pump to the fountain or waterfall, there and back again, is making a current for the fish to swim against when they'd rather just lay there, slowly finning their fins. Water movement makes them work harder and use up energy they'd rather put to keeping some weight on them over the winter. But, all that said, there are rec.ponders who keep their pump running and their waterfall going all winter. And all goes well, no problems. Hi there, nice to see you back K30a. I am not sure what zone I am in, Colour coded maps are not much use to somebody whose colour blind. I am in Mississauga, just west of Toronto, so I think I am in zone 5 (5a). In the past I have disconnected from the waterfalls and redirected the flow to a standpipe over the pond, this keeps an opening in the ice, adds oxygen and provides the local wildlife a source of water in the winter. However, I wonder if this is the best approach, I keep seeing people recommending a bubbler, I tried this one winter but the air pump died within 2 weeks. What depth should the air-stone be set to? TIA AXO --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03 |
wintering link to zones with names
Nope.... he is indeed in zone 5 in Mississauga, ON which is in the Greater
Toronto area. Janet in Niagara Falls, ON Z6b "Mickey" wrote in message ... If you are talking Canada you are closer to a zone 2. Zone 5 is going through the center of the USA. Here is a link with a few names for reference http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/hrdzon3.html "Axolotl" wrote in message . 130... ESPMER (K30a) wrote in : Scott wrote Should I disconnect my filter for the winter, or keep it running? I was planning to keep it, until I read the statement above. You'll find a lot of people do different things ;-) The bio bugs won't be 'working' in cold water and the fish won't be producing much, if any, waste so there is no need to filter a winter pond. Everybody kind of goes into a stupor for the winter. Keeping water running, as in a waterfall or fountain, can sometimes be dicey. If things start to freeze sometimes the water can freeze in such a way as to direct water away from the pond. More so in a waterfall than a fountain. Another theory to keep the pump off is that the water movement from the pump to the fountain or waterfall, there and back again, is making a current for the fish to swim against when they'd rather just lay there, slowly finning their fins. Water movement makes them work harder and use up energy they'd rather put to keeping some weight on them over the winter. But, all that said, there are rec.ponders who keep their pump running and their waterfall going all winter. And all goes well, no problems. Hi there, nice to see you back K30a. I am not sure what zone I am in, Colour coded maps are not much use to somebody whose colour blind. I am in Mississauga, just west of Toronto, so I think I am in zone 5 (5a). In the past I have disconnected from the waterfalls and redirected the flow to a standpipe over the pond, this keeps an opening in the ice, adds oxygen and provides the local wildlife a source of water in the winter. However, I wonder if this is the best approach, I keep seeing people recommending a bubbler, I tried this one winter but the air pump died within 2 weeks. What depth should the air-stone be set to? TIA AXO --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03 |
wintering link to zones with names
Kodiak you can indded overwinter fish. We have been doing it in zone 6b in
2.5 feet of water by keeping a hole in the ice. I would think you can do it in less than 4 feet of water as long as you keep a hole in the ice for gasses to escape. :o) Janet in Niagara Falls, ON "Kodiak" wrote in message ... Would it be unreasonable to have a pond in Zone 4a or 4b and expect fish to survive in winter? I live in Montreal Canada, my feeling is I need a pond at least 4ft deep. Is there info or a table that suggests what depth your pond should be depending on the zone your in? ...Kodiak "Mickey" wrote in message ... If you are talking Canada you are closer to a zone 2. Zone 5 is going through the center of the USA. Here is a link with a few names for reference http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/hrdzon3.html "Axolotl" wrote in message . 130... ESPMER (K30a) wrote in : Scott wrote Should I disconnect my filter for the winter, or keep it running? I was planning to keep it, until I read the statement above. You'll find a lot of people do different things ;-) The bio bugs won't be 'working' in cold water and the fish won't be producing much, if any, waste so there is no need to filter a winter pond. Everybody kind of goes into a stupor for the winter. Keeping water running, as in a waterfall or fountain, can sometimes be dicey. If things start to freeze sometimes the water can freeze in such a way as to direct water away from the pond. More so in a waterfall than a fountain. Another theory to keep the pump off is that the water movement from the pump to the fountain or waterfall, there and back again, is making a current for the fish to swim against when they'd rather just lay there, slowly finning their fins. Water movement makes them work harder and use up energy they'd rather put to keeping some weight on them over the winter. But, all that said, there are rec.ponders who keep their pump running and their waterfall going all winter. And all goes well, no problems. Hi there, nice to see you back K30a. I am not sure what zone I am in, Colour coded maps are not much use to somebody whose colour blind. I am in Mississauga, just west of Toronto, so I think I am in zone 5 (5a). In the past I have disconnected from the waterfalls and redirected the flow to a standpipe over the pond, this keeps an opening in the ice, adds oxygen and provides the local wildlife a source of water in the winter. However, I wonder if this is the best approach, I keep seeing people recommending a bubbler, I tried this one winter but the air pump died within 2 weeks. What depth should the air-stone be set to? TIA AXO --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03 |
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