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Cybe R. Wizard March 22nd 04 04:34 AM

Salt ...
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:56:56 GMT
"RichToyBox" wrote:

There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out
of that argument. Most that use salt routinely will use 0.1% salt.
For treating parasites, the amount needs to be 0.3% and for some of
the salt resistant parasites, 0.6%. The only way to know how much
salt to add is to know how much salt you currently have in your pond.
Salt does not evaporate, but is reduced by water changes. Go to
http://www.click2roark.com which require registration, but a good
site, and use the salt calculator.--
RichToyBox


Have I mentioned my own solution? (no pun intended, /oh, sure/)
I drop a box of non-iodized salt with the top cut off directly into my
ponds once a year. Water changes remove it over the course of the year
and the fish self-treat by tail-fanning the salt box then swimming
repeatedly through the stirred up areas. No science behind it, but it
works for me. And the fish, I suppose, since they do pretty well.
(Until I do something /else/ stupid like last fall)

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

Nedra March 22nd 04 05:06 AM

Salt ...
 
Cybe R,

How many gallons in your pond? I assume you are
using a pound box of salt?
Sounds doable for my pond.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Cybe R. Wizard" Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote in message
news:20040321223630.0035636f@WizardsTower...
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:56:56 GMT
"RichToyBox" wrote:

There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out
of that argument. Most that use salt routinely will use 0.1% salt.
For treating parasites, the amount needs to be 0.3% and for some of
the salt resistant parasites, 0.6%. The only way to know how much
salt to add is to know how much salt you currently have in your pond.
Salt does not evaporate, but is reduced by water changes. Go to
http://www.click2roark.com which require registration, but a good
site, and use the salt calculator.--
RichToyBox


Have I mentioned my own solution? (no pun intended, /oh, sure/)
I drop a box of non-iodized salt with the top cut off directly into my
ponds once a year. Water changes remove it over the course of the year
and the fish self-treat by tail-fanning the salt box then swimming
repeatedly through the stirred up areas. No science behind it, but it
works for me. And the fish, I suppose, since they do pretty well.
(Until I do something /else/ stupid like last fall)

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L




Nedra March 22nd 04 05:06 AM

Salt ...
 
Cybe R,

How many gallons in your pond? I assume you are
using a pound box of salt?
Sounds doable for my pond.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Cybe R. Wizard" Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote in message
news:20040321223630.0035636f@WizardsTower...
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:56:56 GMT
"RichToyBox" wrote:

There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out
of that argument. Most that use salt routinely will use 0.1% salt.
For treating parasites, the amount needs to be 0.3% and for some of
the salt resistant parasites, 0.6%. The only way to know how much
salt to add is to know how much salt you currently have in your pond.
Salt does not evaporate, but is reduced by water changes. Go to
http://www.click2roark.com which require registration, but a good
site, and use the salt calculator.--
RichToyBox


Have I mentioned my own solution? (no pun intended, /oh, sure/)
I drop a box of non-iodized salt with the top cut off directly into my
ponds once a year. Water changes remove it over the course of the year
and the fish self-treat by tail-fanning the salt box then swimming
repeatedly through the stirred up areas. No science behind it, but it
works for me. And the fish, I suppose, since they do pretty well.
(Until I do something /else/ stupid like last fall)

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L




Cybe R. Wizard March 22nd 04 06:40 AM

Salt ...
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 05:06:43 GMT
"Nedra" wrote:

Cybe R,

How many gallons in your pond? I assume you are
using a pound box of salt?
Sounds doable for my pond.

Nedra


Best guestimate is 900 gallons in the front pond, 1200 in the back,
although that last figure has changed with the recently begun remodel.
Yep, pound box of salt. I just make sure to do a water trade fairly
often through the season so salt residual isn't a problem next year.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

Cybe R. Wizard March 22nd 04 06:40 AM

Salt ...
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 05:06:43 GMT
"Nedra" wrote:

Cybe R,

How many gallons in your pond? I assume you are
using a pound box of salt?
Sounds doable for my pond.

Nedra


Best guestimate is 900 gallons in the front pond, 1200 in the back,
although that last figure has changed with the recently begun remodel.
Yep, pound box of salt. I just make sure to do a water trade fairly
often through the season so salt residual isn't a problem next year.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

Nedra March 22nd 04 01:15 PM

Salt ...
 
Thanks for the info, Cybe.
Although my pond is about 3,000 gallons, I think this is
my solution :)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Cybe R. Wizard" Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote in message
news:20040322004235.2ba0a92a@WizardsTower...
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 05:06:43 GMT
"Nedra" wrote:

Cybe R,

How many gallons in your pond? I assume you are
using a pound box of salt?
Sounds doable for my pond.

Nedra


Best guestimate is 900 gallons in the front pond, 1200 in the back,
although that last figure has changed with the recently begun remodel.
Yep, pound box of salt. I just make sure to do a water trade fairly
often through the season so salt residual isn't a problem next year.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L




Nedra March 22nd 04 01:15 PM

Salt ...
 
Thanks for the info, Cybe.
Although my pond is about 3,000 gallons, I think this is
my solution :)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Cybe R. Wizard" Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote in message
news:20040322004235.2ba0a92a@WizardsTower...
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 05:06:43 GMT
"Nedra" wrote:

Cybe R,

How many gallons in your pond? I assume you are
using a pound box of salt?
Sounds doable for my pond.

Nedra


Best guestimate is 900 gallons in the front pond, 1200 in the back,
although that last figure has changed with the recently begun remodel.
Yep, pound box of salt. I just make sure to do a water trade fairly
often through the season so salt residual isn't a problem next year.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L




Hal March 22nd 04 05:16 PM

Salt ...
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:56:56 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:

There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out of that
argument.


There was a statement in SRAC bulletins recommending a small amount
of salt .02% to .05% I think, but I couldn't find it when I went
looking recently. Research changes ideas and if you know of a
reference that advises not to use salt in aquaculture please share it.

Regards,

Hal

Hal March 22nd 04 05:16 PM

Salt ...
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 06:40:20 GMT, "Cybe R. Wizard"
Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote:

Best guestimate is 900 gallons in the front pond, 1200 in the back,
although that last figure has changed with the recently begun remodel.
Yep, pound box of salt. I just make sure to do a water trade fairly
often through the season so salt residual isn't a problem next year.


Adding a 1 lb. box of salt to 900 gallons of water isn't much.
The rate for a .1% solution is .88 lbs per hundred gallons.

Hal March 22nd 04 05:16 PM

Salt ...
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:56:56 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:

There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out of that
argument.


There was a statement in SRAC bulletins recommending a small amount
of salt .02% to .05% I think, but I couldn't find it when I went
looking recently. Research changes ideas and if you know of a
reference that advises not to use salt in aquaculture please share it.

Regards,

Hal


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