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nobody August 13th 03 05:04 AM

lighting ?
 
If you use the coated MV bulbs they produce a very good color, pink white.
Looks nice on the tank.

"Lone6Wolfpack" wrote in message
link.net...
ya, i hear that mercury vapor is unusable spectrum, kinda green, i have

one
that was using as a supplement to the 2 40w NO's, but now i just have

4-40w
NO's. Lumens in my opinion would be best way to rate, not watts.
especially when your talking about comparing different spectrums and
different sources. its basically lumens per watt when your talking
efficiency and economy and its all about MAX lumens in the proper spectrum
for those of you where money in not the main aspect in choosing. Lumens is
definetly the most important, and that it is in the proper spectrums. and
once again, Lumens per watt is only to measure efficiency, dont worry

about
this, worry most about LUMENS, then decide wether your willing to pay the
price for the electric bill according to the watts.
wolfhedd

p.s. all metyal haluides and mercury vapors and high pressure sodiums from
home deopt and lowes are the improper spectrum for good coral growth, you
will need special coral lights, theres almost no way around this unless

you
will settle for NO's, then if so, you can go to lowes and homedepot and

but
the 10 dollar 4 feet fixtures, then go to the fish store and buy the

bulbs.

wolfhedd


"Larry W" wrote in message
...
My 55 gal is about 7 years old now. I run 2 - 40w Actinic florescent
bulbs as well as 2 - 175W Mercury vapor bulbs. The spectrum of the MV

bulbs
are very close to a 6500k MH bulb, although they are not near as

efficient
but much cheaper.
I bought 2 outdoor fixtures from Wal-Mart/Lows for about $19,

stripped
the ballast and bulbs and mounted in my home made hood. Over the years I
have tried Iwaski 6500's which run on a MV ballast. 250W 6500k and 5500k
Metal Halide (which look the best ) However a 6500k MH cost about $60 or
more and a MV cost $10 and lasts about the same. I use the coated MV

bulbs
which look better. I have tried soft corals and hard corals and have met
with moderate success with all. However I have found out that soft

corals
grow the best, like shrooms, polops and leathers.



"Chauncey Gardener" wrote in
message

news:020820031042000786%Chancey_Gardener@removethi s.graffiti.net...
In article , Dave Johnson
wrote:

As another posted indicated, it's all about lumens (lux) Thinking

in
terms
of watts/gallon can get you a very broad spectrum of info, but the

actual
amount of usable light delivered is different based on delivery of

those
watts.

I'm not an expert, but- won't lumens be just an approximation of the
usable light for a reef? I thought the lumen was a measure of
available light only in the spectrum visible to the human eye.

Maybe looking at lumens is the best approximation available of how
useful a particular bulb will be in a reef situation--?



If you decide to buy lights online, check out www.hellolights.com

I
got
my Ice Cap from Jeff at www.exoticfish.com (join their free club,

the
ballasts

Also, www.ahsupply.com has the best prices I've seen on 10,000K PCs
(55w)- and their service is commendable.

--
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Lone6Wolfpack August 16th 03 01:18 AM

lighting ?
 
no, but i think that photosynthesis is actually the conversion of sunlight
to chlorophyl, which corals im not sure do. they use sunlight for energy,
but do they photosynthesize, if so, how so. i assume they get some kind of
nutrition from the lights as humans and animals get vitaminD from sunlight.
Can vitaminD and other nutrients possibly penetrate water, and if so, what
other nutrients come from the sunlight?

i will create a new post called "Sunlight Nutrients" and forward this.


What kind of Nutrients do ocean animals get from sunlight. Vicki has posed
a wonderful question/idea. Regarding Kelvin Temp penetrating certain depths
of the ocean what nutrients flow to what depths from the light and energy of
the sun, and how does this benefit the organism?

Answers to come up with using these guidelines should be ;

What Kelvin temperatures are best for what depth
What Kelvin temperatures are best for hard corals as a whole(average)
What Kelvin temps are best suites for underwater plants as a whole
What Kelvin temps are best for soft corals as a whole

Note;

Do not worry about wattage, which in turn is converted to Lumens. Keep this
interest clear where possible in this study.

Do not worry about NO vs. Halide in this study where possible.





"nobody" wrote in message
...
If you use the coated MV bulbs they produce a very good color, pink white.
Looks nice on the tank.

"Lone6Wolfpack" wrote in message
link.net...
ya, i hear that mercury vapor is unusable spectrum, kinda green, i have

one
that was using as a supplement to the 2 40w NO's, but now i just have

4-40w
NO's. Lumens in my opinion would be best way to rate, not watts.
especially when your talking about comparing different spectrums and
different sources. its basically lumens per watt when your talking
efficiency and economy and its all about MAX lumens in the proper

spectrum
for those of you where money in not the main aspect in choosing. Lumens

is
definetly the most important, and that it is in the proper spectrums.

and
once again, Lumens per watt is only to measure efficiency, dont worry

about
this, worry most about LUMENS, then decide wether your willing to pay

the
price for the electric bill according to the watts.
wolfhedd

p.s. all metyal haluides and mercury vapors and high pressure sodiums

from
home deopt and lowes are the improper spectrum for good coral growth,

you
will need special coral lights, theres almost no way around this unless

you
will settle for NO's, then if so, you can go to lowes and homedepot and

but
the 10 dollar 4 feet fixtures, then go to the fish store and buy the

bulbs.

wolfhedd


"Larry W" wrote in message
...
My 55 gal is about 7 years old now. I run 2 - 40w Actinic

florescent
bulbs as well as 2 - 175W Mercury vapor bulbs. The spectrum of the MV

bulbs
are very close to a 6500k MH bulb, although they are not near as

efficient
but much cheaper.
I bought 2 outdoor fixtures from Wal-Mart/Lows for about $19,

stripped
the ballast and bulbs and mounted in my home made hood. Over the years

I
have tried Iwaski 6500's which run on a MV ballast. 250W 6500k and

5500k
Metal Halide (which look the best ) However a 6500k MH cost about $60

or
more and a MV cost $10 and lasts about the same. I use the coated MV

bulbs
which look better. I have tried soft corals and hard corals and have

met
with moderate success with all. However I have found out that soft

corals
grow the best, like shrooms, polops and leathers.



"Chauncey Gardener" wrote

in
message

news:020820031042000786%Chancey_Gardener@removethi s.graffiti.net...
In article , Dave

Johnson
wrote:

As another posted indicated, it's all about lumens (lux)

Thinking
in
terms
of watts/gallon can get you a very broad spectrum of info, but the
actual
amount of usable light delivered is different based on delivery of

those
watts.

I'm not an expert, but- won't lumens be just an approximation of the
usable light for a reef? I thought the lumen was a measure of
available light only in the spectrum visible to the human eye.

Maybe looking at lumens is the best approximation available of how
useful a particular bulb will be in a reef situation--?



If you decide to buy lights online, check out www.hellolights.com

I
got
my Ice Cap from Jeff at www.exoticfish.com (join their free club,

the
ballasts

Also, www.ahsupply.com has the best prices I've seen on 10,000K PCs
(55w)- and their service is commendable.

--
To reply by email, please edit return address as indicated.











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