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NetMax January 22nd 05 03:14 AM

"Margolis" wrote in message
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"Ozdude" wrote in message
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Clove oil is the accepted humane method:

"The clove oil must be dissolved in alcohol to allow it to dissolve
into

the
water. I use vodka. Using
too much vodka will increase the discomfort to the fish, so measure
carefully. If you feel you
must increase the dosage, increase the clove oil only. Leave the fish
in

the
solution for at least a
couple of hours. Clove oil is a very safe sedative and fish have been

known
to revive after an hour
in the solution.
Have a gallon of tank water in a bucket and put the fish in it. In
another
container, mix 2-3 ml clove
oil with 8 mls vodka. Pour the clove oil mixture in and mix a little.
The
fish will be unconscious
within minutes. I've never had any struggle or distress."

From the fish-a-holics web site.

Oz



thanks, that does sound a little more peaceful.

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I've used the clove oil method. It's highly effective. I just mix it in
the water without the vodka (about 1ml in 1/2g). If using a small bowl
(which I recommend as clove oil is pricey) then you can mix it very well,
so the vodka seems superfluous. You can also make the recipe in a
fishbag and shake well before adding the fish. It seems to sedate them
before causing their systems to shut down. You can find it in the
drugstore. It's used as a salve to freeze your gums. The professional
method is to use MS-222 but I think it's very similar in effect to
Euglenol (the active ingredient in clove oil). hth
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Craig January 22nd 05 12:43 PM

i simply "spike" the fish "confidently" (dont be wishy washy about it,
causes more pain) against the back of the toilet bowl, its simple, its
clean, it severs the chord just behind the head.

i was shown this at a pet store where they were feeding mal-nourished
silver sharks to a pacu, it seems easy enough on small fish, but i think
i would use the freezing method on larger fish in the future.



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Ozdude January 22nd 05 01:35 PM


"Craig" -DONTEMAIL wrote in message
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i simply "spike" the fish "confidently" (dont be wishy washy about it,
causes more pain) against the back of the toilet bowl, its simple, its
clean, it severs the chord just behind the head.

i was shown this at a pet store where they were feeding mal-nourished
silver sharks to a pacu, it seems easy enough on small fish, but i think
i would use the freezing method on larger fish in the future.


How hard can it be for you to use clove oil on any size fish? freezing is
known to cause suffering.

Oz



Craig January 24th 05 12:53 PM

clove oil seems somewhat extravigent to be honest.

in all honesty, killing fish is hardly a perk of the job is it... but
yeah, perhaps clove oil would be a better idea (ive never had to kill a
larger fish... unless whilst fishing (if the hook goes too deep, or a
predator takes the fish as it is being retreived)), and then its the
knock to the back of the head.

there used to be a tradition of flushing ill fish in my local area of
the uk, as i see it, anything quick and semi painless is an
improvement on this.



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Ozdude January 24th 05 01:27 PM


"Craig" -DONTEMAIL wrote in message
...
clove oil seems somewhat extravigent to be honest.

in all honesty, killing fish is hardly a perk of the job is it... but
yeah, perhaps clove oil would be a better idea (ive never had to kill a
larger fish... unless whilst fishing (if the hook goes too deep, or a
predator takes the fish as it is being retreived)), and then its the
knock to the back of the head.


That's a bit different to a tanked fish though. I used to do this myself,
but in this case you have no choice.

I thought the conversation was about euthanasing sick aquarium fish?

Clove Oil is the most humane way. Freezing isn't and severing the spinal
chord is just too violent for this Buddhist person ;)

there used to be a tradition of flushing ill fish in my local area of
the uk, as i see it, anything quick and semi painless is an
improvement on this.


Agreed, but suffering must be kept to an absolute minimum and every creature
deserves as painless, and calm a death as possible if it has to be so ;)

Oz

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Dr Engelbert Buxbaum February 5th 05 05:42 PM

Ozdude wrote:

I thought the conversation was about euthanasing sick aquarium fish?

Clove Oil is the most humane way. Freezing isn't and severing the spinal
chord is just too violent for this Buddhist person ;)


Agreed, but suffering must be kept to an absolute minimum and every creature
deserves as painless, and calm a death as possible if it has to be so ;)



There is always the "moist cloth and brick" method: put the fish between
two sheets of moist cloth and hit hard enough that you can be sure the
fish is dead without opening the parcel. Humane both on the fish and
you.


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