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Reel McKoi May 13th 05 02:20 AM


"Snooze" wrote in message
m...
It's not like jabriol and his buddies came into this channel and picked

some
random person to harass. Obviously this is spill over from another

newsgroup
or forum.


# I am not responsible for the abusive actions of others, nor are you. :-)

Carol is welcome and encouraged to remove rec.ponds from any
postings made here.


# How can I remove postings made by others to this NG? Only they can do
that.

Whatever happened in that other newsgroup, who did what
to whom, who started it, etc I don't care.


# Nor do I. They should not have carried it HERE as I'm sure you will
agree. What does it have to so with ponds? Nothing!

Unfortunately since the war came to this newsgroup it affects us now too.
Pistols at 10 paces, only way I know to solve it, other then asking Carol

to
stop posting to this newsgroup, at least until the war goes somewhere

else.

# Why not ask the ABUSER Jabriol and several other troll-like people on this
NG to stop posting here until it goes away? Why make me responsible for the
actions of others? If Jabriol/Iksgorkon/Nomen kills someone in his
frustration and frenzy for revenge is that MY FAULT as well?
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o



cat daddy May 13th 05 04:58 AM


"~Roy~" wrote in message
...


Everyone is a troll that dares to dissa gree with this crackpot
lunatic old lady of many names....She went to the barn, stepped in
some crap and never wiped her feet when she came back in the
house.........or in other words she stirred up the folks in the other
forums and brought them here all due to her attacks........and
accusations she makes......she is the ever so righteous individual
that has nbever done wrong, or made problems and is just to darned
stupid to realize most folks have her figured out already as the
abscess that caused a festering wound in many
newsgroups.......Wherever she treads she she also brings in all the
baggage of many fialed marriages and relationships, so it seems she is
unhappy that others with good relationships can get along, where she
just can't see the light at the end of the tunnel fo rher narrowminded
tunnel vision that only she is right and everyone else is wrong!


Curious that Carol never replies to the remailer forgeries, that just
happen to pop in to mimic her viewpoint, with the same enthusiasm she has to
clean up the group of the remailers that are forging her. Quite odd.

On Thu, 12 May 2005 17:11:21 -0500, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:

===
==="cat daddy" wrote in message
...
=== I suspect you haven't visited the other group(s) where the

"cross-fire"
=== is the mirror reverse then. By her own admission, Carol has been

attacking
=== them for nine years.
=======================
===ATTACKING them? Please provide proof I claimed I've been

*ATTACKING* them.
===Are you another TROLL looking to keep these problems going here?

You sure
===seem to be, since you post nothing about fish or ponds but seem to

focus
===only on *me* for some reason. Learn to use a killfile like everyone

else.



Reel McKoi May 13th 05 08:11 AM


"Maxx Pollare" wrote in message
...
The voice of "Reel McKoi" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
from the sea of virtual chaos...


Why not ask the ABUSER Jabriol and several other troll-like
people on this NG to stop posting here until it goes away?
Why make me responsible for the actions of others?
If Jabriol/Iksgorkon/Nomen kills someone in his frustration
and frenzy for revenge is that MY FAULT as well?


Because it's easier to blame the victim. }:8P


# And one woman is easier to verbally abuse and intimidate than several
men..... or so the believe.

I don't know what caused *all this* in the first place either, and
frankly I don't care ethier, but that last thing you should have to
do is leave because of it.


# Oh, I'm not leaving, that's for sure. No one can dictate who stays or
leaves unmoderated NGs.

From what I've seen you've been a model
poster in this group for at least the last 180+ days I checked.

Doen't that count for somthing?


# Not with some of the posters on this NG. They would love to get me
involved in a flame-war *here* on rec.ponds over another NG that doesn't
even concern them, as they do not read/post there and never did.
They see Jab's behavior quite ok (flooding, off-topic posts, threats,
remailers, forged headers ect) and encourage him, but swamped my old ISP
with complaints when I was changing ISPs/NSPs and changed my NYM. One had
the gall to complain about my nym changes on *ANOTHER NG* he never even
posted on!!!! That's what some of the people I'm dealing with here on
rec.ponds are like.........
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o



Reel McKoi May 13th 05 08:13 AM


"Maxx Pollare" wrote in message
...
The voice of "Snooze" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
from the sea of virtual chaos...

Unfortunately since the war came to this newsgroup it affects us
now too. Pistols at 10 paces, only way I know to solve it, other
then asking Carol to stop posting to this newsgroup, at least
until the war goes somewhere else.



And you think that will make the "bad man" go away? };8)

==============================
Notice it doesn't occur to Snooze to ask the "bad man" and his side-kicks to
go away.....
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o


Derek Broughton May 13th 05 01:19 PM

PonderKoi wrote:

I have read all of the evidence. I am convinced that Carol has been
waging a idiotic war against JW's. And it has followed her to Rec.Ponds.


Obviously not. THis group doesn't need you either.

plonk
--
derek

cat daddy May 13th 05 01:58 PM


"Maxx Pollare" wrote in message
...
The voice of "Reel McKoi" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
from the sea of virtual chaos...

Carol is welcome and encouraged to remove rec.ponds from any
postings made here.


How can I remove postings made by others to this NG?
Only they can do that.


He's refurring to cross-posts...

Why not ask the ABUSER Jabriol and several other troll-like
people on this NG to stop posting here until it goes away?
Why make me responsible for the actions of others?
If Jabriol/Iksgorkon/Nomen kills someone in his frustration
and frenzy for revenge is that MY FAULT as well?


Because it's easier to blame the victim. }:8P


The only real victim here is the truth.

I don't know what caused *all this* in the first place either, and
frankly I don't care ethier, but that last thing you should have to
do is leave because of it. From what I've seen you've been a model
poster in this group for at least the last 180+ days I checked.

Doen't that count for somthing?


I suppose, if you don't count her crossposted remailer attacks. And
posting under her "Reel McKoi" alias in the JW group, mentioning rec.ponds,
and disparaging posters here is not really model behaviour, is it? Despite
her victimization act, that alone might attract the less savoury elements of
Usenet here.



Snooze May 13th 05 05:12 PM

"Reel McKoi" wrote in message
...
"Maxx Pollare" wrote in message
...
The voice of "Snooze" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
from the sea of virtual chaos...


And you think that will make the "bad man" go away? };8)

==============================
Notice it doesn't occur to Snooze to ask the "bad man" and his side-kicks
to
go away.....


Asking Jabriol to go away would be a waste of effort, because he's not going
to, until he's sufficiently bored of it.Since you two claim to have been
going at it for 9 years, i don't think either of you two are going to get
bored anytime soon.

What option do you suggest that doesn't involve asking you to go away and
take your stalkers with you?
Add each new identity they come up with to the killfile?

-S



Derek Broughton May 13th 05 06:41 PM

Snooze wrote:

"Reel McKoi" wrote in message
...
Notice it doesn't occur to Snooze to ask the "bad man" and his side-kicks
to go away.....


Asking Jabriol to go away would be a waste of effort, because he's not
going to, until he's sufficiently bored of it.Since you two claim to have
been going at it for 9 years, i don't think either of you two are going to
get bored anytime soon.

What option do you suggest that doesn't involve asking you to go away and
take your stalkers with you?
Add each new identity they come up with to the killfile?


That's the _only_ real option.

Killing anything that's cross-posted to rec.ponds and any other groups than
misc.rural (sometimes cross-posted farm ponds) and *.garden* (I'm
guessing there are both alt. and rec. gardening groups) is effective.
Unfortunately, not many news readers can do that.

Asking Carol to leave is not only repugnant, when she's done nothing here to
deserve it (and her behavior anywhere else is irrelevant - where will you
stop? I upset a co-worker a couple of weeks ago - should I be banned, too?)
but it's impossible. If you can't get people who know they're being jerks
to leave us alone, how do you think you can get someone who hasn't done
anything here to leave?

otoh, Carol, if you stopped responding to Snooze & Jan & Anne & anybody else
who's calling on you to leave, they _would_ go away (at least, they'd stop
thinking about you).
--
derek

Reel McKoi May 13th 05 07:01 PM


"Snooze" wrote in message
...
"Reel McKoi" wrote in message
...
"Maxx Pollare" wrote in message
...
The voice of "Snooze" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
from the sea of virtual chaos...


And you think that will make the "bad man" go away? };8)

==============================
Notice it doesn't occur to Snooze to ask the "bad man" and his

side-kicks
to
go away.....


Asking Jabriol to go away would be a waste of effort, because he's not

going
to, until he's sufficiently bored of it.Since you two claim to have been
going at it for 9 years, i don't think either of you two are going to get
bored anytime soon.


$$ I didn't BRING Jabriol and all his sock-puppets and remailers to this
NG - HE followed me here, in case you didn't notice.

What option do you suggest that doesn't involve asking you to go away and
take your stalkers with you?


$$ Why should I go away because YOU can't deal with a known sociopathic
troll?

Add each new identity they come up with to the killfile?


$$ That's what most people are doing on this NG. It that too hard for you
to manage? A click or two and the troll is gone. :-) If someone is too
sensitive and can't deal with trolls maybe *they* should go away. I mean
that in all sincerity. No one held a knife to his throat and forced him
here.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o



Reel McKoi May 13th 05 07:31 PM


"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
...

otoh, Carol, if you stopped responding to Snooze & Jan & Anne & anybody

else
who's calling on you to leave, they _would_ go away (at least, they'd stop
thinking about you).
--
derek

=================
Excellent advice. :-) I'll ignore them all.....
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o



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