RicSeyler wrote:
Dsybok wrote:

And why are you commenting anyway, if anything your comment should be , "
how in the world can you smoke and keep exotic fish anyway".

It's been done for years successfully.........

Yep. I did it successfully for years.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

yeah i agree - you preacher people should all go and live in a horrible
intolerant cave somewhere. There are far far more important things to worry
about than smoking. Put your effort into something worthwhile please.

"solemn duty to impress on the rest of the backward world" - Crikey grow up
please.


"Steve" wrote in message
.. .
My last post on the subject... The poster (not me) who asked the question
said both him and his wife smoke in the house, so what the hell is your
problem... we don't need a feckin' morality lecture on smoking.

On the subject of breathing other people's pollution... what about the
rubbish the we have to breathe here in Europe (and especially the UK) that
you US folks send us over on the jetstream every day !

BTW... I'm not even a smoker !

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
:

Most people don't live in a home by themselves. Smokers
don't just smoke in their homes only. Other people have to
breath in the smoke from smokers. Anyone that smokes,
forces other people to breath in tobaco smoke. There is
not one smoker that does not force other people to breath
in his smoke.

Wayne Sallee



Steve wrote:
This is an international newsgroup... smoking is still considered the
'norm' in many countries and cultures outside of the US. If anyone
chooses to smoke in their own home then who the hell are you to preach
otherwise... So, as technically correct as you undoubtedly are, we
don't
want need or want to hear your option on the personal health effects of
smoking in a reefs newsgroup. It's the rest of the world's solemn duty
to impress upon you as a US resident how eliminating your massive
pollution (as your country is world's largest emitter of greenhouse
gases) and signing up to Kyoto will make the world a much better
place!...and at least that is reef related !!!

You Californian residents can keep your keep you advise to yourself and
smoke it....

Jeez... People in glass houses...


"Dsybok" wrote in message
:

No , not really. Evangelizing doesnt save anything,it certainly doesnt
save
souls, and busting on people smoking might save someone from a
horrible
lengthy death from emphysema like some of my granparents who took an
entire
year to die , wasting away in a hospital.

Besides, as a resident of California, it is my solemn duty to impress
upon
the rest of the backward world how eliminating smoking in all public
places
makes the world so much better a place.

And why are you commenting anyway, if anything your comment should be
, "
how in the world can you smoke and keep exotic fish anyway".

D


"RicSeyler" wrote in message
...
Almost as bad as people evangelizing...........

Dsybok wrote:

If you run carbon it should take out any of the pollutants from the
tank.
The carbon wont help your foolish habit from destroying your lungs
though,
but perhaps your fish will outlive you...

D

"Mirek" wrote in message
oups.com...


i wanted to know if anyone had any ideas ( major cons) for putting
a
20g. sal****er tank in my office in the house where my wife and i
smoke. i can imagine it isnt good for the water quality but any
comments would be appreciated. Mirek








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I would just like to say that I smoke and *GASP * SHOCK * HORROR*
occasionally indulge in a nice fat reefer too. All my fish are fine BTW 8O.

Kind Regards
Cameron

That's right! and the smoke has not killed you iether. hehehe

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Dogma Discharge wrote:
I would just like to say that I smoke and *GASP * SHOCK * HORROR*
occasionally indulge in a nice fat reefer too. All my fish are fine BTW 8O.

Kind Regards
Cameron

Im me and I can say whatever the hell I want wherever the hell I want
because I dont live in one of those backwards smoke filled places where
people tell you what you can and can not say.

I dont need a reason I dont need an excuse. The fact I happen to be right is
irrelevant.

D

"Steve" wrote in message
...
This is an international newsgroup... smoking is still considered the
'norm' in many countries and cultures outside of the US. If anyone
chooses to smoke in their own home then who the hell are you to preach
otherwise... So, as technically correct as you undoubtedly are, we don't
want need or want to hear your option on the personal health effects of
smoking in a reefs newsgroup. It's the rest of the world's solemn duty
to impress upon you as a US resident how eliminating your massive
pollution (as your country is world's largest emitter of greenhouse
gases) and signing up to Kyoto will make the world a much better
place!...and at least that is reef related !!!

You Californian residents can keep your keep you advise to yourself and
smoke it....

Jeez... People in glass houses...


"Dsybok" wrote in message
:

No , not really. Evangelizing doesnt save anything,it certainly doesnt
save
souls, and busting on people smoking might save someone from a horrible
lengthy death from emphysema like some of my granparents who took an
entire
year to die , wasting away in a hospital.

Besides, as a resident of California, it is my solemn duty to impress
upon
the rest of the backward world how eliminating smoking in all public
places
makes the world so much better a place.

And why are you commenting anyway, if anything your comment should be ,
"
how in the world can you smoke and keep exotic fish anyway".

D


"RicSeyler" wrote in message
...
Almost as bad as people evangelizing...........

Dsybok wrote:

If you run carbon it should take out any of the pollutants from the
tank.
The carbon wont help your foolish habit from destroying your lungs
though,
but perhaps your fish will outlive you...

D

"Mirek" wrote in message
oups.com...


i wanted to know if anyone had any ideas ( major cons) for putting a
20g. sal****er tank in my office in the house where my wife and i
smoke. i can imagine it isnt good for the water quality but any
comments would be appreciated. Mirek








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GPL Handicap 6.35

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--------------------------------------
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- H.J. Simpson

looks confused Huh?
Left Hand - is telling others what to do in their own homes....
Right Hand - is saying to others, I don't live in a place that tells
others what to do...

Bush Voter???? hehehe ;-)

Dsybok wrote:

Im me and I can say whatever the hell I want wherever the hell I want
because I dont live in one of those backwards smoke filled places where
people tell you what you can and can not say.

I dont need a reason I dont need an excuse. The fact I happen to be right is
irrelevant.

D




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GPL Handicap 6.35

http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler
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--------------------------------------
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Aquarium in a smokey room?
 

Thanks for the response. i can see more of you are interested in the
smoking and freedom of speech. That's OK too. Yes smoking in public
places affects other people ( so i try not to smoke when im walking
outside ) and yes I agree it's time to stop smoking ( I am a Cardiac
Anesthesia Paramedic from UPenn) . And at the same time your opinion
is yours and it is an opinion so you shouldn't force it on anyone. Back
to the real reason I joined this group, SW fish. lol...So the smoking
dosent really affect the fish as i was kinda suspecting. I figured
there were some people who smoke in their house and share our hobby. We
don't obsessively smoke there but ( like mentioned above) going out
side to smoke where we have a lot of people just makes me feel like I'm
promoting the smoking. Which I strongly oppose. Other than mabe some
extra carbon to eliminate any odor and color there seems to not be much
that can happen. Right....? Comment please...Mirek

Thanks for all posts.

Aquarium in a smokey room?
 

It probably won't hurt the fish any more than it hurts
you. :-)

At least in the water, there is bialogical filtration that
helps break down toxins. And it would stand to reason that
carbon would probably help remove some of it from the water.

If you had a reef tank for many years and smoked redily in
the room, and then one day you stopped smoking, you would
probably notice some improvement in the quality of the
reef tank.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Mirek wrote:
Thanks for the response. i can see more of you are interested in the
smoking and freedom of speech. That's OK too. Yes smoking in public
places affects other people ( so i try not to smoke when im walking
outside ) and yes I agree it's time to stop smoking ( I am a Cardiac
Anesthesia Paramedic from UPenn) . And at the same time your opinion
is yours and it is an opinion so you shouldn't force it on anyone. Back
to the real reason I joined this group, SW fish. lol...So the smoking
dosent really affect the fish as i was kinda suspecting. I figured
there were some people who smoke in their house and share our hobby. We
don't obsessively smoke there but ( like mentioned above) going out
side to smoke where we have a lot of people just makes me feel like I'm
promoting the smoking. Which I strongly oppose. Other than mabe some
extra carbon to eliminate any odor and color there seems to not be much
that can happen. Right....? Comment please...Mirek

Thanks for all posts.

Aquarium in a smokey room?
 

It's like asking "If I smoke in my house, will my house
dog get asma?"

Wayne Sallee


Wayne Sallee wrote:
It probably won't hurt the fish any more than it hurts you. :-)

At least in the water, there is bialogical filtration that helps break
down toxins. And it would stand to reason that carbon would probably
help remove some of it from the water.

If you had a reef tank for many years and smoked redily in the room, and
then one day you stopped smoking, you would probably notice some
improvement in the quality of the reef tank.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Mirek wrote:

Thanks for the response. i can see more of you are interested in the
smoking and freedom of speech. That's OK too. Yes smoking in public
places affects other people ( so i try not to smoke when im walking
outside ) and yes I agree it's time to stop smoking ( I am a Cardiac
Anesthesia Paramedic from UPenn) . And at the same time your opinion
is yours and it is an opinion so you shouldn't force it on anyone. Back
to the real reason I joined this group, SW fish. lol...So the smoking
dosent really affect the fish as i was kinda suspecting. I figured
there were some people who smoke in their house and share our hobby. We
don't obsessively smoke there but ( like mentioned above) going out
side to smoke where we have a lot of people just makes me feel like I'm
promoting the smoking. Which I strongly oppose. Other than mabe some
extra carbon to eliminate any odor and color there seems to not be much
that can happen. Right....? Comment please...Mirek

Thanks for all posts.