Bettas and Temperature
 

Alpha wrote:
I think people need to really measure what heat is introduced by the Eclipse
system. I have a number of them, and this perception is mostly wrong.
Wrong. As Netmax indicated, at most a couple of degrees. At most.




It's 9:50 am, and the lights have been on about 3 hours. House
temperature is 68 degrees F.

There are two unheated, 15-gal goldfish aquariums, one above the other.
They have identical stick-on thermometers on the outside, from which
I'll read the temperatures.

Upper aquarium: 78 degrees F, Eclipse system w/ 2, 15-watt fluorescents.

Lower aquarium: 74 degrees F, Aquaclear 200 filter, one 20-watt
fluorescent lamp in home-made wooden box.

In summer, with higher house temperature, the temperature difference
between tanks seems more pronounced.

I'm not complaining about the Eclipse. I've had it 5-6 years and it
provides strong filtration and adequate lighting. I have considered
going to a taller 20-25 gallon aquarium, but never got a round to it. A
bigger tank would likely be less affected by the filter motor heat...

Steve

Bettas and Temperature
 

Hmmmm, very interseting thread. I've got a 3 gallon Eclipse System 3.
I work in a large open factory. My workspace is called the fishbowl,
fittingly enough. I'm in a walled area of the factory set up for
office space. The ceiling is open to the highbay factory roof. In the
morning, my office space is quite cool, like jacket on cool. I'm not
there overnight but I can imagine it cools gradually through the night
to reach the morning cold temps. Because of this I bought a small 25
watt heater. Over a months time I kept adjusting the dial down because
the tank stayed about 82 F. I have the lights on a timer for 11 hours
a day and the heat creeps up during the day because of this. My
epiphany came when I left the lights off an entire day with the heater
set at 65 deg. The tank temp was 82 degrees all day. I took the
heater out. You guessed it, 82 degrees. I opened the lid and left it
open for a few days. The temp stabilized at 78 degrees during the day
with the light on. The ambient temp in the office area is about 60-65
degrees during the day.

Based on these observations I can attest to these facts.

The System 3 is perfect for my office.
It keeps a steady temp of 76-78 degrees F throughout the day and night
with no heater.
The supplied 3 watt flo tube light is perfect for growing Anubias, java
fern and even Ludwigia.
I have pictuers to prove it:
http://www.geocities.com/erviservy/CubicleFeb10c.jpg

I've taken a very recent picture and I'll post that soon.

steve

Bettas and Temperature
 

Bottom posted.


"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message
...

Another alternative. Get a generic 10 gallon. Get the incandescent
hood and use two 10watt screw-in fluorescent bulbs in it. Use a
submersible heater (25 or 50 watt) and an Aquaclear hang-on-back filter.

Submersible filters work, but they are visible and harder to clean.

And if you really want to grow plants, use EcoComplete for a substrate
instead of plain gravel and dose with Flourish Excel and a supplement
like Leaf Zone or the Fluorish eauivalent.

I'm no expert, but these are the things that have worked for me.

An all-glass type generic glass aquarium sized at 10 gallons only costs me
11 dollars (usa) each at my local department (in-town) store. Pretty cool
how cheap those things are now. Good luck and later!

Bettas and Temperature
 

"Alpha" wrote in message
...
I think people need to really measure what heat is introduced by the
Eclipse system. I have a number of them, and this perception is mostly
wrong. Wrong. As Netmax indicated, at most a couple of degrees. At
most.


..... a 'few' degrees, and it would really vary according to the size of
the tank, and the delta (difference between it and the ambient). I found
the smaller tanks had a more pronounced jump in temperature due to the
lighting, and a greater difference due to the motor housing. Larger
tanks are not affected to the same degree, and if the room is very cold,
the overall effect is decreased on all tank sizes. Small plastic tanks
from other manufacturers using powerhead-type pumps have the same
characteristic. The filter motor becomes a continuous heat source (which
in a consistently cool location can work out fine). It's the heat from
the lighting which is more of a nuisance, especially in small tanks in
very warm environments (but then lighting heat is always a nuisance in
hot environments ;~).
--
www.NetMax.tk

Bettas and Temperature
 

Daniel Morrow wrote:

"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message
...


Another alternative. Get a generic 10 gallon. Get the
incandescent hood and use two 10watt screw-in fluorescent bulbs in
it. Use a submersible heater (25 or 50 watt) and an Aquaclear
hang-on-back filter.


An all-glass type generic glass aquarium sized at 10 gallons only
costs me 11 dollars (usa) each at my local department (in-town)
store. Pretty cool how cheap those things are now. Good luck and
later!


They're $9.95 at PetsMart and PetCo.

Just saw an 18 gallon at PetsMart for under $25. Same footprint as a 10
gallon, but almost twice as high. Should be great for growing plants.

Bettas and Temperature
 

Hmm this thread made me curious.

Ok,
Eclipse 6.... air temp is 69F tank temp is....

71F. Ok, so there is a couple of degrees difference.


The heater's not plugged in. I might have to get to that soon. It's a
bit too cold for my betta.
One thing I want to point out to Dan... The eclipse filters tend to
stop if you lower the water level even a little.
It's really meant to be filled to the top.

Bettas and Temperature
 

"IDzine01" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hmm this thread made me curious.

Ok,
Eclipse 6.... air temp is 69F tank temp is....

71F. Ok, so there is a couple of degrees difference.


The heater's not plugged in. I might have to get to that soon. It's a
bit too cold for my betta.
One thing I want to point out to Dan... The eclipse filters tend to
stop if you lower the water level even a little.
It's really meant to be filled to the top.


Thanks. I've kept a close eye on the circulation, and it has been running
OK for two days now. Temp is down to 78, but I think that is more due to
the cold weather today than anything else. Lowering the level didn't seem
to do much.

thanks,
dwhite