Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of filter to new tank?
 

On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:20:15 +0000, TYNK 7 wrote:


What are you using to fishless cycle?

Some Kroger brand clear ammonia. Thing is, it must be a LOT weaker
concentration than most other brands. It took 40-50 ml to get the 10g up
to the ~5ppm NH3 level. Everything I read told me it shouldn't take that
much.
A less scientific rationale is that I can actually stick my nose over the
opening and take a good whiff and NOT be knocked out by the odor. pretty
weak stuff.

Chris

Well that just shouldn't be.
Did you add more or are you going to get a different brand?

Just using the same stuff. Even tho it's a weaker concentration, now that
I know how much I need to add, I can compensate appropriately.

Chris

Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of filter to new tank?
 

It is no longer necessary to have to endure a long cycling process. Either get
some gravel from an established tank or get some Biospira(made by Marineland)
which is the actual bacteria - to start the tank. Don't bother with using
ammonia.

Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of filter to new tank?
 

Subject: Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of
filter to new tank?
From: (MartinOsirus)
Date: 12/7/2003 12:49 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

It is no longer necessary to have to endure a long cycling process. Either
get
some gravel from an established tank or get some Biospira(made by Marineland)
which is the actual bacteria - to start the tank. Don't bother with using
ammonia.


Yes, I agree.
However, BioSpira isn't available everywhere.
It's actually hard to find around my area.
Most PetLand chain stores carry it.

Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of filter to new tank?
 

It is no longer necessary to have to endure a long cycling process. Either
get
some gravel from an established tank or get some Biospira(made by Marineland)
which is the actual bacteria - to start the tank. Don't bother with using
ammonia.


Yes, I agree.
However, BioSpira isn't available everywhere.
It's actually hard to find around my area.
Most PetLand chain stores carry it.


Interesting...I haven't heard of this stuff. I've heard of something
else (cycle) or whatever that appears to have mixed results from what I've
read.

There's a local petland here that has a good selection and a nicely
maintained fish section. I'll see if they carry it.

Chris

Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of filter to new tank?
 

Interesting...I haven't heard of this stuff. I've heard of something
else (cycle) or whatever that appears to have mixed results from what I've

Of all the so called bacterial starter products - the only one I know that has
the actual bacteria is Biospira. It has to be kept refrigerated. The other
products - like Cycle - tend to be enzymes that encourage the bacteria to grow
- Although Hagen has a new Cycle product - which is supposed to be good. With
Biospira the tank cycles right away - no waiting! It can be ordered on line
from www.fishstoretn.com - although it is better to buy it locally if you can -
it has to be cold pack shipped.

Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of filter to new tank?
 

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 00:41:26 +0000, MartinOsirus wrote:

Interesting...I haven't heard of this stuff. I've heard of something
else (cycle) or whatever that appears to have mixed results from what I've

Of all the so called bacterial starter products - the only one I know that has
the actual bacteria is Biospira. It has to be kept refrigerated. The other
products - like Cycle - tend to be enzymes that encourage the bacteria to grow
- Although Hagen has a new Cycle product - which is supposed to be good. With
Biospira the tank cycles right away - no waiting! It can be ordered on line
from www.fishstoretn.com - although it is better to buy it locally if you can
it has to be cold pack shipped.

Local Petland has it :D

Gonna pick up an once tomorrow. THANK YOU!!

Chris

Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of filter to new tank?
 

Subject: Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of
filter to new tank?
From: ck2
Date: 12/7/2003 12:09 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: .com

It is no longer necessary to have to endure a long cycling process. Either
get
some gravel from an established tank or get some Biospira(made by
Marineland)
which is the actual bacteria - to start the tank. Don't bother with using
ammonia.


Yes, I agree.
However, BioSpira isn't available everywhere.
It's actually hard to find around my area.
Most PetLand chain stores carry it.


Interesting...I haven't heard of this stuff. I've heard of something
else (cycle) or whatever that appears to have mixed results from what I've
read.

There's a local petland here that has a good selection and a nicely
maintained fish section. I'll see if they carry it.

Chris

Hi Chris.
The product Cycle has the wrong type of bacteria in it. All the rest of these
bacteria starter products also have the wrong type, however, they are still
being marketed as the right kind. Grr!
BioSpira is the *only* one so far to have the right type.
I'd guess Marineland has a patent on it, but maybe just like a pharmacutical
(sp?) company can only have a period of time to have the sole rights to
it....maybe this will be the case here too. Ihope so, as it will bring down the
cost.

Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of filter to new tank?
 

Subject: Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of
filter to new tank?
From: ck2
Date: 12/7/2003 9:47 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: .com

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 00:41:26 +0000, MartinOsirus wrote:

Interesting...I haven't heard of this stuff. I've heard of something
else (cycle) or whatever that appears to have mixed results from what I've

Of all the so called bacterial starter products - the only one I know that
has
the actual bacteria is Biospira. It has to be kept refrigerated. The other
products - like Cycle - tend to be enzymes that encourage the bacteria to
grow
- Although Hagen has a new Cycle product - which is supposed to be good.
With
Biospira the tank cycles right away - no waiting! It can be ordered on line
from www.fishstoretn.com - although it is better to buy it locally if you
can
it has to be cold pack shipped.

Local Petland has it :D

Gonna pick up an once tomorrow. THANK YOU!!

Chris


Way to go!

Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of filter to new tank?
 

Of all the so called bacterial starter products - the only one I know that has
the actual bacteria is Biospira. It has to be kept refrigerated. The other
products - like Cycle - tend to be enzymes that encourage the bacteria to grow
- Although Hagen has a new Cycle product - which is supposed to be good. With
Biospira the tank cycles right away - no waiting! It can be ordered on line
from www.fishstoretn.com - although it is better to buy it locally if you can
it has to be cold pack shipped.

Local Petland has it :D

Gonna pick up an once tomorrow. THANK YOU!!

I think you're just fretting over nothing. Why are you opposed to a
natural cycle?

Jack

Not opposed at all. Just in a hurry because of the way the two tanks are
in limbo. Going thru the whole cycle thing the first time was a great
experience and I learned a LOT in the process.
But hey, if I can buy 'insta-cycle' in a bag and it actually WORKS, why
not? :)

Chris

Setting up new tank - wait for cycling or direct changeover of filter to new tank?
 

But hey, if I can buy 'insta-cycle' in a bag and it actually WORKS, why
not? :)

yup - I just set up 4 new tanks with Biospira and it took 2 days!!